10 captives, Over 20 soldiers, including Commanding Officer killed at Galwan border clash with China

[Clutch]

Most Indians are good people like most Pakistanis and Chinese. It’s the politicians who are manipulative. It’s unfortunate to see the fighting escalate when both sides can benefit far more with peace.

Not when over 51% vote for RSS aka BJP (or the Nazi).

No nation has voted for a Nazi party since WWII unlike India.

 

[zhxy]

india considered China an enemy before the 1962 war. If India really wanted peace with China, it would not support the Dalai Lama and use the "Foward's Policy" to encroach on the territory.

if the "Tibetan uprising of 1959" and the "Foward's policy" were successful, 100 years later Bolywood would create a film called "Nehru's great victory". But India failed, and then they played "victim card" and blamed China

In the minds of all Indians "india is never wrong"

 

[tower9]

The Chinese diaspora is a bunch of traitors and their children. The think China is poor and backwards. That's why they live in America.

Not really. I know how fast China is advancing because I have been there often. Personally I’d prefer to move to Singapore if possible actually.

 

[Aspen]

China's wants to cut India down to size. Occupying Galwan Valley is sufficient to teach them a lesson for now but India probably will escalate.

Yeah I agree, India will take the bait.

Modi probably wants to deescalate.

But its just like Feb 27, Indian population will force Modi to do something like Balakot strike. Modi has to do something aggressive, Indian public will burn him alive if he does nothing.

The difference is that Pakistan shot down IAF and gave pilot back because Imran Khan said he wouldn't escalate.

Just like Feb 27, Indians will also force Modi to do something against China, but now India is in the weaker position. When India makes their next move, China will be in a position to escalate it with even more force while Pakistan did not escalate after Feb 27. When China escalates, that is when they will start demanding concessions from India.

 

[HAIDER]

China doesn't want to escalate. The current military focus is Taiwan and South China Sea. No firearm was used in this clash by both sides, which means nobody is interested in open warfare.

look at the map, China already moved 60 km last few weeks. This is huge escalation .Chinese army moving more closer to main Ladakh region.

 

[Dungeness]

https://www.news18.com/news/india/p...ge-execution-spree-say-survivors-2673347.html

“In maps published in 1962, after the end of the China-India war that year, the PLA asserted it had established control of the entire Galwan valley. Lightly-armed Indian troops of the 5 Jat Regiment, whose supply lines had been choked for months, held out against an entire PLA battalion at one key post in Galwan, losing 32 of the 68 troops stationed there before running out of ammunition.

Following the war, though, the PLA pulled back from its 1962 line, allowing Indian troops to resume patrolling ground dozens of kilometres to the east of the 1962 line, reaching the positions that India claims to be the LAC.”

Chinese pulled back from the 1962 line after the war, to create a buffer zone between two armies, but Indians took advantage of China's goodwill and continued to push their "Forward Policy" for decades. Building the permanent structure on China side of 1962 line, was just the last straw that broke camel's back. Chinese don't wanna be the nice guy no more.

Had India respected 1962 line and refrained from land-grabbing from China, the border would have been at peace for years and India would have had one less neighbor to fight with.

China has just reiterated the 1962 line publicly and it can't back down from the new stand. Let's how India is going to deal with the New Normal.

 

[SrNair]

causalities not matter as far as india is unable to push back chinese army from region as these figures cannot be verified by trusting u.s who have self interest against china

Before cheerleaders said there was no casualities.
Now saying there is casualities but land was grabbed.
Tomorrow what?
Fact is both were disengaged after that unfortunate incident .
We will use diplomatic way

these chinese posters just got the draft from global times to drive this here now... soon the body bags will start getting back deep inside china to families who lost their only son.... and then the anguish begins.

why are you so afraid of putting the right figure for everyone, including your own people, to see? they must be in hundreds and you want to save face?

china is a country who's political party has an army... so they cant disclose these important details to local public.

if anyone dares to do so, he will be either killed like Li Wenliang or vanished like other whistle blowers of wuhan virus.

Its better if they keep quiet .
More publicity means too much pressure on Xi and eventually cause big issues which wont help both nations during Covid time

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Most Indians are good people like most Pakistanis and Chinese. It’s the politicians who are manipulative. It’s unfortunate to see the fighting escalate when both sides can benefit far more with peace.

You don't know who they actually are. Bring up Pakistan or Islam and see them change. They are snakes, good at hiding who they are.

Actually being Chinese is enough, see how they treat you after today.

Never trust an Indian or related ethnicity like SL,etc.

Calling the rebellion of occupied natives as Terrorist is a lie. For a Kashmiri they represent freedom fighters.

This poor guys suffered injuries for what they did to him.

 

[doorstar]

Are you serious or joking?

You think Turks would go against Pakistan.

Never.

were Iraqis, Afghans, Syrians, Libyans any less Moslem than Pakistanis? Turks will go against anyone America tells them to

 

[Yaseen1]

from our experience diplomatic way not works when opponent is economically and militarily more bigger like in case of palestine and kashmir issues

Before cheerleaders said there was no casualities.
Now saying there is casualities but land was grabbed.
Tomorrow what?
Fact is both were disengaged after that unfortunate incident .
We will use diplomatic way



Its better if they keep quiet .
More publicity means too much pressure on Xi and eventually cause big issues which wont help both nations during Covid time

 

[SrNair]

Calling the rebellion of occupied natives as Terrorist is a lie. For a Kashmiri they represent freedom fighters.

Man , there is already a clear picture that was created .
You cannot change that .
Even though our rival ,we respect the Chinese they were always clear about their aims .

 

[zhxy]

Source or I am reporting you to mods for fake news.

Are you serious or joking?

This is an open discussion. Everyone is frank about their thoughts and analysis except for trolls and personal attacks.

It is strange that someone begins to slander and threaten to denounce others for disagreements in opinion

 

[Feng Leng]

I’ve been to China many times.

A war between China and India doesn’t benefit either country.

Then your flag is fake. The left side is your citizenship. You are an American citizen. There is no flag for "ethnic origin". You get two American flags.

 

[SrNair]

I like your submissive and cowardly behavior in front of more powerful country.
But not surprised because its in genes of hindus.

Its not like that .It is a respect to a rival that can stand on their own unlike someothers were the shameless attitude of sending poor brainwashed kids in the name of asymetric warfare

 

[PDF]

Actually, C17 weren't destined to Mumbai...I think the one which I lost went further south as this one is also going.

Perhaps to Thanjavur as one took off from there: