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Sometimes you have to stand by your friend even when you have nothing to gain. Just imagine the kind of support China has given to Pakistan against the west. Unlike india, against west China has no direct conflict. China could have remained neutral but she did not. You are talking like the indian banyas.
Do I have to tell you that state-to-state relations are primarily based on interests? We don't have any cultural connection with the Chinese. They are welcome to invest in Pakistan but this is not a one-way street; we are granting them shortest route to Arabian Sea and they will tremendously benefit from it. They don't have a better alternative at the moment. If they had, they would have tapped it without even consulting us; this is how things are in real-life.

So once again, it is wise to adopt neutrality in matters that do not concern us. Geopolitical scenarios never remain the same in the long run. They change either for better or for worse. However, a wiser approach to geopolitical issues, goes a long way.
 
Do I have to tell you that state-to-state relations are primarily based on interests? We don't have any cultural connection with the Chinese. They are welcome to invest in Pakistan but this is not a one-way street; we are granting them shortest route to Arabian Sea and they will tremendously benefit from it. They don't have a better alternative at the moment. If they had, they would have tapped it without even consulting us; this is how things are in real-life.

Do you think the western world's relation with Vatican is based on interest? Don't always generalise, relations do exist which you cannot explain just by economic interest. As for China tapping other alternatives without even consulting, I think it's not even relevant here as nobody objects to it as it is normal practice. China stood by Pakistan even when there was no CPEC.

So once again, it is wise to adopt neutrality in matters that do not concern us. Geopolitical scenarios never remain the same in the long run. They change either for better or for worse. However, a wiser approach to geopolitical issues, goes a long way.

Yes, Pakistan should remain neutral if a war breaks out between Argentina and Britain but China is not Argentina or Britain, China is Pakistan's lifeline in this hostile world which is profoundly influenced by states like isreal and india. It will be considered as a betrayal by China if Pakistan remains neutral during a conflict with Taiwan. In the short run and long run it will be devastating for Pakistan if China feels that way. India and the west has been dreaming of that day and it is clear that you are in that club too.
 
Do you think the western world's relation with Vatican is based on interest? Don't always generalise, relations do exist which you cannot explain just by economic interest.
Perhaps! This is why I included the word "largely" in my assertion.

The entire WEST has cultural connection with the Vatican. This is similar to the dynamics between Saudi Arabia and the rest of the Islamic bloc. Now, how is this dynamic relevant between Pakistan and China? It is not.

As for China tapping other alternatives without even consulting, I think it's not even relevant here as nobody objects to it as it is normal practice. China stood by Pakistan even when there was no CPEC.
You don't get it, do you? China will not ignore its interests for the sake of CPEC or any other initiative. Pakistan should think similarly, if it is to become an independent state.

Yes, Pakistan should remain neutral if a war breaks out between Argentina and Britain but China is not Argentina or Britain, China is Pakistan's lifeline in this hostile world which is profoundly influenced by states like isreal and india. It will be considered as a betrayal by China if Pakistan remains neutral during a conflict with Taiwan. In the short run and long run it will be devastating for Pakistan if China feels that way. India and the west has been dreaming of that day and it is clear that you are in that club too.
You know what? This is slave-mentality talking. A state should never put all of its eggs in the same basket, if it is to prosper and become powerful. Pakistan won't ever achieve independence in true sense of the word unless it gets its act together and starts acting like one in its engagements with other states. When I assert this, I literally mean it.

During the era of Cold War, India cultivated friendly ties with the former USSR but officially adopted Non-aligned stance; message was clear that India won't be a lapdog of any superpower. Look where it is now; one of the largest economies of the world and a market worth tapping for any country. Pakistan, on the other hand, foolishly embroiled itself in a war that was not its own and the end result was terrifying; gun culture, hashish, extremism and terrorism.

You may boast that China is different but I will reiterate that this is the end-result of Pakistan distancing itself from conflicts involving China. In-fact, Pakistan brought the US and China to the negotiation table during 1960s. China won't mind if Pakistan continues to distance itself from issues like Taiwan and SCS; it shouldn't be even allowed to. If China is investing in Pakistan, it is getting something in return as well. This is not a one-sided relationship.

CPEC is not everything for us, shouldn't be. In-fact, if Pakistan wishes to extract the most out of Gwadar port, then it needs to expand its trade relations with a large number of countries in the world. CPEC should not remain China-centric only. One reason is that if (for some reason) China is subjected to major sanctions like Russia, its trickle-down effect will eventually reach CPEC and disrupt it. Therefore, Pakistan needs to shed its lapdog tendencies, refine its foreign policy and prepare itself for any eventuality.

As far as Israel is concerned; it is another issue that can be easily addressed but the backward MOULVI TABQA won't let it happen without creating hurdles. However, this is a topic for another thread.
 
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Obama, during his tenure attacked 7-8 countries around the world, no congress required there.
They all have congress approval. The one disapproval is Syria. Remember Obama threaten to use military force against Syria after biological farewell? Well the congress slapped his face on that. LOL
 
Thanks to DJT, China is now turning to be more hawkish than ever.

Global Times has recently hinted that China should hike its nuclear stockpile to 10000 nuclear warheads along with 1000 ICBMs. This is definitely the tone from Xi Jinping and his hawkish PLA Generals.

In the past, China didn't want to do, it doesn't mean that China doesn't have the capability right now. Only with that, the peace will prevail along with the strength.
 
He's soon gonna be the president of the United States. You are seriously delusioned if you think that what he says is a joke anymore. It may have been earlier, but no more.
and you will be stupid enough to believe that it is the president that actually runs the country````kid, you are too naive
 
How many hours would it take for PLA to do a 'Crimea' on Taiwan?
It depends on how quick the PLA can dominate the sky over Taiwan. China will force Taiwan to liquidate all of their 200 patriot rounds by launching ballistic and cruise missiles at Taiwan's airbase and radar sites. It takes a few rounds of patriots to intercept one ballistic missile. If China fires tens of ballistic and cruise missiles, the SAM network of Taiwan will cease to exist due to it running out of missiles.

Once the SAM network is suppressed, China can do the bombing run. Taiwan only has 66 modern F-16 fighters and that won't work against China's 600 something modern jets. The Taiwanese strait can't be compared to the English channel during world war II. The british had the quantity (the brits even had surplus to supply the soviet) and quality of planes to go head to head with the german's airforce. Taiwan on the other hand has neither the quantity or/and quality of planes to go head to head with China. China can replace any lost planes quicker than Taiwan can wait for the u.s congress to approve sales of f-16.

Once China finish clearing the sky of Taiwanese airforce; China can start moving men across the strait easily.
In the end it all comes down to PLA carpet bombing Taipei to surrender or China can choose not to do carpet bombing to reduce civilian casualties and engage in urban combat to clear the Taiwanese defenders in Taipei instead.
 
Perhaps! This is why I included the word "largely" in my assertion.

The entire WEST has cultural connection with the Vatican. This is similar to the dynamics between Saudi Arabia and the rest of the Islamic bloc. Now, how is this dynamic relevant between Pakistan and China? It is not.


You don't get it, do you? China will not ignore its interests for the sake of CPEC or any other initiative. Pakistan should think similarly, if it is to become an independent state.


You know what? This is slave-mentality talking. A state should never put all of its eggs in the same basket, if it is to prosper and become powerful. Pakistan won't ever achieve independence in true sense of the word unless it gets its act together and starts acting like one in its engagements with other states. When I assert this, I literally mean it.

During the era of Cold War, India cultivated friendly ties with the former USSR but officially adopted Non-aligned stance; message was clear that India won't be a lapdog of any superpower. Look where it is now; one of the largest economies of the world and a market worth tapping for any country. Pakistan, on the other hand, foolishly embroiled itself in a war that was not its own and the end result was terrifying; gun culture, hashish, extremism and terrorism.

You may boast that China is different but I will reiterate that this is the end-result of Pakistan distancing itself from conflicts involving China. In-fact, Pakistan brought the US and China to the negotiation table during 1960s. China won't mind if Pakistan continues to distance itself from issues like Taiwan and SCS; it shouldn't be even allowed to. If China is investing in Pakistan, it is getting something in return as well. This is not a one-sided relationship.

CPEC is not everything for us, shouldn't be. In-fact, if Pakistan wishes to extract the most out of Gwadar port, then it needs to expand its trade relations with a large number of countries in the world. CPEC should not remain China-centric only. One reason is that if (for some reason) China is subjected to major sanctions like Russia, its trickle-down effect will eventually reach CPEC and disrupt it. Therefore, Pakistan needs to shed its lapdog tendencies, refine its foreign policy and prepare itself for any eventuality.

As far as Israel is concerned; it is another issue that can be easily addressed but the backward MOULVI TABQA won't let it happen without creating hurdles. However, this is a topic for another thread.

As I said your intention is to create mistrust in the Sino-Pak relation. This is an indo-western project. Like you many Pakistanis are active members of this project.
 
As I said your intention is to create mistrust in the Sino-Pak relation. This is an indo-western project. Like you many Pakistanis are active members of this project.
Your accusation is baseless.

My point is that a true nation crafts its own foreign policy and leaves the door open for diplomacy with any state (existing or emerging); Pakistan should not be a lapdog of any world power, period. Again, not wise to put all of your eggs in the same basket.

Nobody is advocating confrontation with China. However, it is wise for Pakistan to distance itself from Chinese conflicts and adopt Neutral stance in regards to them. A simple reason is that geopolitical ground realities can change with passage of time and a state must be prepared for emerging trends.
 
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The Chinese government has expressed its appreciation as several foreign governments have reiterated their adherence to the one-China policy.

French Foreign Minister Jean Marc Ayrault said Wednesday that U.S. president-elect Donald Trump's remarks questioning the one-China policy principle "is not clever."

The French diplomat made the remarks on France 2 public television


"I say, be cautious about China. Why? Because it is a big country. We can have our differences with China, but you don't talk to a partner like that, because China is a big partner. When China feels questioned on its unity, that's not exactly very clever."


On "Fox News Sunday," Trump said he does not feel-- quote-- "bound by a one-China policy unless we make a deal with China having to do with other things, including trade."

The controversial rhetoric came just days after Trump held a phone call with Taiwan leader Tsai Ing-wen, breaking decades of U.S. diplomatic policy.

Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson Geng Shuang noted on Monday at a daily press briefing that China is "gravely concerned" about Trump's latest remarks. He cautioned that the Taiwan issue, concerning China's sovereignty and territorial integrity, involves China's core interests.

Meanwhile, Australian foreign minister Julie Bishop has also reiterated her country's recognition of the one-China policy, saying that Australia's position is as it has been since 1972.


She said in an interview with Sky News that recognition of the one-China policy has been important for peace and stability in the Asia-Pacific region.


She also says that it will be much more productive to wait and see if there are any changes in US foreign policy after Trump is inaugurated.

The view was also shared by the French Foreign Minister

"We can hope that as the days pass, the new team will have learned enough so that we manage an uncertain world with more sang-froid and responsibility."

German Chancellor Angela Merkel has also expressed Germany's continued adherence to the one-China policy.

Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson Geng Shuang on Thursday also reiterated that there is only one China and Taiwan is a part of China, and the People's Republic of China is the only legitimate government representing China.

He also said that the one-China policy is the pre-requisite and foundation for China to develop friendly relations with other countries.
 
Yes, that's what your indian and American buddies would say. I'm sure you enjoy their full fledged support.
I have a query; why Bangladesh accepted Indian assistance for separation from Pakistan?
 
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I have a query; why Bangladesh accepted Indian assistance for separation from Pakistan?

I have a question, why have you selected this section for such a question? Isn't there a section for questions like that? Irrelevant question won't cover the fact that you are doing what the indians and the Americans have been trying for years.
 
I have a question, why have you selected this section for such a question? Isn't there a section for questions like that? Irrelevant question won't cover the fact that you are doing what the indians and the Americans have been trying for years.
Dodging my point, aren't you?

What exactly am I doing? Addressing your nonsense.
 
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