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World leaders back one-China policy

So if the US, under Trump, decides to formally recognize Taiwan as an independent country, what can China do ?
WHAT CAN CHINA DO??!!!

Hold a sincere referendum in Taiwan and mock at USA saying, "When Taiwanese want to stay with mainland China, who the hell are you idiots to interfere?"
 
WHAT CAN CHINA DO??!!!

Hold a sincere referendum in Taiwan and mock at USA saying, "When Taiwanese want to stay with mainland China, who the hell are you idiots to interfere?"

"IF, WHAT IF, MAYBE" DREAM on as usual with an empty stomach along with your Vietnamese blood brothers, cos its FREE
Unfortunately "GOOD DREAMS" never last long:rofl:
 
Let me see,

Sino-US three joint communiques (One China Policy),
TPP (not really count, since not yet ratified by US congress),
NAFTA,
WTO,
Paris Agreement on Climate Change,
Iran nuclear deal
NATO commitment?
Status of forces agreement with various US allies
So all these past US international commitments are now null and void? Because Mr. Trump do not like these commitments to dictate to him what he can or cannot do?

(Beside domestic policy like health-care, immigration or employment, those that are not relevant or affect by international treaty, is there`any others treaty that Mr. Trump do not like because USA is considered as "losing" on some of the terms in the agreement. UN membership perhaps?)
 
WHAT CAN CHINA DO??!!!

Hold a sincere referendum in Taiwan and mock at USA saying, "When Taiwanese want to stay with mainland China, who the hell are you idiots to interfere?"
When China recognized South Korea, despite the fact that both Koreas claimed the entirety of the Korean peninsula, China created the door for the formal recognition of Taiwan as a legal independent state. So far, the US have been the only country to actually opened that door and entered it.

US public declaration of the 'one China' policy was a Cold War device to sever China from the Soviets, and it worked its role. Now that the Soviets is no more and Putin's Russia have no interest in Taiwan vis-a-vis China, the fiction that there is a 'one China' is being tested by President-elect Trump.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/12/politics/china-trump-one-china-reaction/index.html
China has warned that it's "seriously concerned" after President-elect Donald Trump questioned whether the United States should keep its long-standing position that Taiwan is part of "one China."
Trump is not the idiot that the PDF Chinese would like to believe.

Who called whom first, Taiwanese President Tsai Ing-wen to Trump or Donald Trump to Tsai ? Who cares ? Actually, Beijing does.

If Tsai initiated the call, that mean she, as representing Taiwan, somehow believed Trump would be more assertive than Barack Obama regarding the Taiwan-China issue, and that assertiveness would be in Taiwan's favor.

If Trump initiated the call, that mean Trump saw at least one way to put China on notice and given how Trump radically and unconventionally won the US Presidency, putting Trump into a predictable box would be a serious strategic mistake.

There is one US leverage that China must know: North Korea.

To the US and the rest of the world, a North Korea that is a non-nuclear weapons state is far more important than Taiwan being an independent state. A US recognized Taiwan and a nuclear weapons North Korea is unacceptable headache to China.

It is easier for China to exert influence or even control over NKR than to fight Taiwan and the US over Taiwanese political independence.
 
He just wants trade concessions from China, being a business man. If China play its cards properly, they can get America off their backs in south China sea and have their say in regional issues which will also make India redundant.
 
https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...no-name:homepage/story&utm_term=.8ed91ba141cb

BEIJING — Donald Trump is talking about Taiwan again — and so is China in angry and mocking comments Monday that questioned whether the president-elect grasps a core element of relations between the world’s top economic powers.

In an interview broadcast Sunday, Trump said the United States would not necessarily be bound by the One China policy — the diplomatic understanding that underpins ties between Washington and Beijing, and leaves China’s rival Taiwan on the diplomatic sidelines with the United States.

Trump suggested the policy could be revisited unless America could “make a deal,” potentially on trade between the two countries.

The remark elicited a sharp response from Beijing, with the Foreign Ministry expressing “serious concern” and a party-controlled newspaper calling the president-elect “as ignorant as a child.” By appearing to treat Taiwan as just a bargaining chip for trade deals, he may also have irked Taipei, experts said.

The comment came less than two weeks after the president-elect made headlines by taking a phone call from Taiwan’s leader, Tsai Ing-wen, a surprise move that was interpreted by some as a high-stakes slip-up and by others as an overdue show of support for a democratic friend.


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The president-elect has gone to Michigan, Iowa, North Carolina and Ohio, and saluted workers at an Indiana plant where he says he saved more than 1,000 jobs.

Trump’s latest foray into East Asian affairs came when he was asked by “Fox News Sunday” about the planning for the Dec. 2 call. He said he learned about the call “an hour or two” before it took place but said he understood the stakes.

“I fully understand the One China policy, but I don’t know why we have to be bound by a One China policy unless we make a deal with China having to do with other things, including trade,” he said.

“I mean, look,” he continued, “we’re being hurt very badly by China with devaluation; with taxing us heavy at the borders when we don’t tax them; with building a massive fortress in the middle of the South China Sea, which they shouldn’t be doing; and, frankly, with not helping us at all with North Korea.”

“I don’t want China dictating to me,” he said.


Since winning the U.S. presidential election, Trump’s public comments and tweets on East Asian politics have put the region on edge and thrown the future of U. S-China and U.S.-Taiwan relations into question.

When Trump took a call from Tsai, he broke with decades of diplomatic practice — indeed, it was first such call since President Jimmy Carter switched diplomatic recognition from Taiwan to China in 1979. The call was roundly rejected by China, which lodged an official complaint in Washington.

What is the story behind Trump's phone call with Taiwan?

A Monday editorial in the Global Times, a state-controlled newspaper known for its strident nationalism, suggested Trump ought to read some books on U.S.-China ties. It also warned that if the United States abandoned the One China policy, Beijing would have no reason to “put peace above using force to take back Taiwan.”

“China needs to launch a resolute struggle with him,” the editorial said. “Only after he’s hit some obstacles and truly understands that China and the rest of the world are not to be bullied will he gain some perception.

Many people might be surprised at how the new U.S. leader is truly a ‘businessman’ through and through,” the paper said. “But in the field of diplomacy, he is as ignorant as a child.”

Su Hao, director of the Center for Asia-Pacific Studies at China Foreign Affairs University, in Beijing, said Trump’s comment was a “careless and irresponsible” act that could “shake the foundation of the bilateral relationship.”

The stance on Taiwan, he said, is not open for negotiation. “International politics is not business. Not everything is on the table for trade.”

Taiwan might actually agree — but for different reasons.

Many in Taipei hailed the call between Trump and Tsai as a breakthrough — a sign that the thriving democracy might finally get the U.S. backing it says it deserves.

They did not see the call as a slip-up or a diplomatic gaffe but rather as the product of a Republican-led recalibration of U.S. foreign policy that has been years in the making.

William Stanton, a career diplomat who served as de facto U.S. ambassador to Taiwan from 2009 to 2012 and now heads the Center for Asia Policy at Taiwan’s National Tsing Hua University, said Trump’s comment Sunday seemed to throw that idea into question by treating Taiwan’s status as just an element of trade negotiations.

Either he doesn’t know what he is talking about, or he is endangering the status that Taiwan has always had in U.S. policy,” he said. “Having done a good thing, from my point of view, Trump has undone it.”

Wu Jieh-min, an associate research fellow at Taipei’s Academia Sinica, said the United States should not use Taiwan as a means to an end.

“Trump’s call with President Tsai may signal a possible readjustment of the U.S. policy toward Taiwan and China respectively,” he said.

“But from the perspective of the Taiwanese people,” he said, “the legitimate principle should be that Taiwan should not be used as something for trade between the great powers.”



Luna Lin in Beijing contributed to this report.
 
He breaks up nothing, he has not entered into office normally.


Well his Twitetr posts alone seem to be enough to make China react.

Its interesting to break open old ice. It creates chances and possibilities.
 
Does it really matter? Taiwan is de facto independent and America has sold weapons to it for a long time.

There is a huge difference between de facto & de jure independence. But I see Trump's act as a blessing in disguise for Beijing might finally be pressured to take action instead of delaying and paying lip service to the calls for reunification.
 
The US president doesn't get to declare war. The congress do, so he is right that what he said can be taking with a grain of salt. And everyone know changing "one-china policy" will lead to the conclusion of war. I can assure you with that from the China side.

Obama, during his tenure attacked 7-8 countries around the world, no congress required there.
 
Well his Twitetr posts alone seem to be enough to make China react.

Its interesting to break open old ice. It creates chances and possibilities.

China don't react, what action you find China do against him recently? That is a routinely diplomatic reply of all news or situation.
 
Truth in artillery range, language changes nothing.

Unify the country by force moment is in coming, and this a lot of people want to see:coffee:

Finally don't have to wait too long:smitten:

Any intruder interference will be crushed, the fire will burn them inside their homes
 
Trump intends to use Taiwan as a bargaining chip to get concessions from China, where previous American administration knew not to go there. Recognizing the "One China" policy was a corner stone of China-US relations. It's a dangerous game, but it also shows that US is slowing losing leverage when they must tap into their last wild card.
Somebody gets it.
 
Talk is cheap -- that is more applicable to you PDF Chinese, conscript reject. I have done my time in service. But we all know that ALL of you will run in the opposite direction if China ever needed manpower and the risk of death is evident.

The same ignorance and stupidity cost General Douglas MacArthur's military career. There is no amount of "professionalism" can make up for the lack of wisdom.

Whenever you are trying to comment on Chinese matter, always ask yourself why those physically small, sandals wearing and AK weaving "unprofessional" VC soldiers triumphed over the much more powerful professional killing machine, and ended up running your country. They happened to be trained by Chinese.
 
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The same ignorance and stupidity cost General Douglas MacArthur's military career. There is no amount of "professionalism" can make up for the lack of wisdom.

Whenever you are trying to comment on Chinese matter, always ask yourself why those physically small, sandals wearing and AK weaving "unprofessional" VC soldiers triumphed over the much more powerful professional killing machine, and ended up running your country. They happened to be trained by Chinese.
That was why so many of them died, and in the end, for nothing because both Viet Nam and China went the American way -- capitalism.
 
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