Ranger raids MQM.. Nine Zero

[rockstar08]

Yar My point was the killer must have escaped in to the house after shooting Waqqas. Rangers didn't have clear line of visiblity on him. Within seconds he would have sprinted into house. in all that chaos. From the video, did you observe even Rangers were unaware for a minute that waqqas has been shot due to the aerial firing ?

yes i did see that .. but can you answer my question that why the Ranger guy's gun was not pointed towards sky ? and why it was in vertical ??
now as i point out , put yourself in the position of the Cameramen shooting the event ... when the bullets were fired , he try to run , so his camera got down , as normally ... but he can still see from his eyes , because he was standing right behind the young guy who was shoot .. and the possible killer was right next to the boy and Camera men , so how is it possible that Camera men , Ranger guy , misses the shooting ?

 

[Bratva]

@secure @rockstar08 Instead of pasting same propaganda pic from MQM pages, why don't you bother to watch video once more to see, Ranger holding the pistol went behind the door once women tried to scare him ? Why keep pasting MQM propaganda picture when video disapproves the lie ?

yes i did see that .. but can you answer my question that why the Ranger guy's gun was not pointed towards sky ? and why it was in vertical ??
now as i point out , put yourself in the position of the Cameramen shooting the event ... when the bullets were fired , he try to run , so his camera got down , as normally ... but he can still see from his eyes , because he was standing right behind the young guy who was shoot .. and the possible killer was right next to the boy and Camera men , so how is it possible that Camera men , Ranger guy , misses the shooting ?

A straight gun fire into air, Do you know shell comes back to earth and it would kill people in crowd ? Not vertical, the gun was at an angel so stray shell doesn't fall on people. A simple fact

 

[rockstar08]

Yar My point was the killer must have escaped in to the house after shooting Waqqas. Rangers didn't have clear line of visiblity on him. Within seconds he would have sprinted into house. in all that chaos. From the video, did you observe even Rangers were unaware for a minute that waqqas has been shot due to the aerial firing ?



A simple question. Try to explain me through exit wound on dead body and no mark on steel door, how rangers gun could have hit the waqqs. No hanky panky. A simple straight answer bas

i cant give you the simple answer , cause it depends on who fire ... because i can say one thing that ranger guy sitting on the top of car , holding the AK and firing , he cant be the killer , cause the wound cant be make by ak ...
now if someone from ranger , which is not in the car , as mentioned in @Secur pic , he can shot the kid without anything blocking his way ... but again even if Ranger shot him why did the camera men cant see ? and report

@secure @rockstar08 Instead of pasting same propaganda pic from MQM pages, why don't you bother to watch video once more to see, Ranger holding the pistol went behind the door once women tried to scare him ? Why keep pasting MQM propaganda picture when video disapproves the lie ?



A straight gun fire into air, Do you know shell comes back to earth and it would kill people in crowd ? Not vertical, the gun was at an angel so stray shell doesn't fall on people. A simple fact

ary bhai , i didnt take that pic from anywhere , i take screen shots from my laptop , video is on my fb page , and i by pausing it i take those shots.. i dont even know that MQM start using some pics to start any propaganda ...

 

[Bratva]

Maybe, the army sides with MQM, who knows?



Whats the fuss about a mark on the steel door? If the bullet hit him directly, there wouldn't be any mark. There are personnel around the vehicle. Your boys carry TT, that open a world of possibilities now. Its not an official weapon, why use it during raids? For what?

Was any Ranger standing parallel to waqas or were they at an angle where they can't shoot waqqas without piercing steel door first ? Hence I would say again, your judgement is clouded, that you aren't able to deduce why I bother to paste screenshots of Rangers position relative to waqqas and steel door.

 

[Secur]

Ranger holding the pistol

Why run from the fact that the rangers chief strongly denies that his boys carry the weapon-in-question good ol TT pistol? The picture is original even if it is from a propaganda page. The reaction from the Sindh rangers is the same, as it was in 2011 when they shot an unarmed person and later tried to prove him a thief. Denial, denial and denial. Its not new.

 

[rockstar08]

@secure @rockstar08 Instead of pasting same propaganda pic from MQM pages, why don't you bother to watch video once more to see, Ranger holding the pistol went behind the door once women tried to scare him ? Why keep pasting MQM propaganda picture when video disapproves the lie ?



A straight gun fire into air, Do you know shell comes back to earth and it would kill people in crowd ? Not vertical, the gun was at an angel so stray shell doesn't fall on people. A simple fact

still it was a dangerous position , cause what if there is a Building in front of him ? and that might shot someone .. ?
there was no need for live bullets ,they can use tear gas or rubber bullets ...

 

[Bratva]

i cant give you the simple answer , cause it depends on who fire ... because i can say one thing that ranger guy sitting on the top of car , holding the AK and firing , he cant be the killer , cause the wound cant be make by ak ...
now if someone from ranger , which is not in the car , as mentioned in @Secur pic , he can shot the kid without anything blocking his way ... but again even if Ranger shot him why did the camera men cant see ? and report



ary bhai , i didnt take that pic from anywhere , i take screen shots from my laptop , video is on my fb page , and i by pausing it i take those shots.. i dont even know that MQM start using some pics to start any propaganda ...

Bhai jaan yahi to mai keh raha hu kab say. There was no ranger to the right of Waqqas, Screen grabs shows the position of rangers were such that there were steel door in b/w them, the alleged shooter and Waqqas. The ranger holding Pistol was pushed back in such a position he was behind the steel door when Shot was fired to kill the waqqas If ranger would have shot,there would have been a bullet hole in steel door, Bullet would not have pierce one cheek and left the other so cleanly which led us to the only men whose bullet could have caused such a clean right to left or vice versa bullet wound . The shooter who took out his TT standing Left to Waqqas

And post mortem has proved Bullet wound was of 9 mm

Why run from the fact that the rangers chief strongly denies that his boys carry the weapon-in-question good ol TT pistol? The picture is original even if it is from a propaganda page. The reaction from the Sindh rangers is the same, as it was in 2011 when they shot an unarmed person and later tried to prove him a thief. Denial, denial and denial. Its not new.

Instead of taking comfort from rangers chief statement. When there are facts and figures available from ground zero. do indulge me with them instead of a blank statement of a ranger chief.

 

[Samandri]

Chemical and biological weapons should be dropped on nine zero

 

[Secur]

Instead of taking comfort from rangers chief statement. When there are facts and figures available from ground zero. do indulge me with them instead of a blank statement of a ranger chief.

Its not comfort I derive, its a very serious issue which you continue to bypass. I will ask for the last time. Why does the Rangers chief deny carrying a weapon that they indeed carry as shown in different pictures? (I will post them here again if you want) What is the objective of carrying TT pistols into raids which officially isn't with them? Just answer me this question. Enough with steel door impact theory, a ranger personnel might as well have been on the left side of the slain, the rangers has a past with these things. I told that I would believe a MQM activist killing Waqas if presented with enough proof, I believe that rangers did arrest HVT from 90, you wouldn't. Your trust again is absolute, these people cant go wrong for you. Such isn't the case with me. A debate as I said earlier is futile, you would never acknowledge the rangers on fault.

 

[rockstar08]

Bhai jaan yahi to mai keh raha hu kab say. There was no ranger to the right of Waqqas, Screen grabs shows the position of rangers were such that there were steel door in b/w them, the alleged shooter and Waqqas. If ranger would have shot,there would have been a bullet hole in steel door, Bullet would not have pierce one cheek and left the other so cleanly which led us to the only men whose bullet could have caused such a clean right to left or vice versa bullet wound . The shooter who took out his TT standing Left to Waqqas

And post mortem has proved Bullet wound was of 9 mm



Instead of taking comfort from rangers chief statement. When there are facts and figures available from ground zero. do indulge me with them instead of a blank statement of a ranger chief.

ary yaar ap phir mera point miss ker rahe ho
look at the camera men , and there was ranger guy in the masked who , was standing next to door , in the pic @Secur posted ..
and than , if that guy shot the boy , than how the ranger on the top of the car shooting in air cant see ? and if he see than why he didnt chase the shooter inside the house ?? again you cant just neglect the statement of chief of Rangers bhai .. its not some hawaldaar but Ranger chief ... you know it can be easily challenge in any court of justice ?

 

[Bratva]

ary yaar ap phir mera point miss ker rahe ho
look at the camera men , and there was ranger guy in the masked who , was standing next to door , in the pic @Secur posted ..
and than , if that guy shot the boy , than how the ranger on the top of the car shooting in air cant see ? and if he see than why he didnt chase the shooter inside the house ?? again you cant just neglect the statement of chief of Rangers bhai .. its not some hawaldaar but Ranger chief ... you know it can be easily challenge in any court of justice ?

i edited my previous post to explain Secur Pic ranger position. Anyways,I will explain once more, That ranger was pushed back behind door as well. The women, see video from 10-20 second. You can see pistol in his hand and being pushed back at such a distance that there was a steel door b/w that ranger and Waqqas

 

[rockstar08]

Chemical and biological weapons should be dropped on nine zero

hahah than we will have to fight zombies , like left 4 dead game

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Chemical and biological weapons should be dropped on nine zero

its big news they have raided 9-0 hq ....

 

[Secur]

hahah than we will have to fight zombies , like left 4 dead game

Dont take it seriously. The problem is prolonged conflicts in their 200 years of history, tend to do these things. Their main occupation is war on the other side of the Khyber Pass and these things are a routine. Always fighting, learning to use weapons from an early age and affection with war lords and armed conflicts. F16's and drones as common as birds. Pretty much sums it up. Lol

its big news they have raided 9-0 hq ....

It will be big news when they raid the rest of the party HQ's too, they will find a plethora of things which will make everyone forget this day.

 

[Bratva]

Its not comfort I derive, its a very serious issue which you continue to bypass. I will ask for the last time. Why does the Rangers chief deny carrying a weapon that they indeed carry as shown in different pictures? (I will post them here again if you want) What is the objective of carrying TT pistols into raids which officially isn't with them? Just answer me this question. Enough with steel door impact theory, a ranger personnel might as well have been on the left side of the slain, the rangers has a past with these things. I told that I would believe a MQM activist killing Waqas if presented with enough proof, I believe that rangers did arrest HVT from 90, you wouldn't. Your trust again is absolute, these people cant go wrong for you. Such isn't the case with me. A debate as I said earlier is futile, you would never acknowledge the rangers on fault.

The most logical reason for ranger chief lie is Channel 92 footage wasn't air at that time, IIRC channel 92 aired the footage in the evening and ranger chief made that statement around 11-12 PM . Ranger chief had to say something to prove innocence of his guys which Channel 92 footage did but making a dent into the credibility of ranger chief