Why Chennai can't and won't speak Hindi

[Chola warrior]

I always wonder, why the Aryans only invaded India, why isn't any Aryan Invasion theory of any other Indo-European speaking country.

What do you mean any other country? Iran? Pakistan?
They came and mixed with already present so called Dravidians in north India.

 

[INDIC]

What do you mean any other country? Iran? Pakistan?
They came and mixed with already present so called Dravidians in north India.

Yes, you will never find the term "Aryan Invasion" for any country that speaks any Indo-European language in their history book. Name a country and look at their history, you will never find any reference to Aryan invasion. Very surprising.

 

[Bang Galore]

@Bang Galore Perhaps you find this map interesting, just like Indian Aryavarta, Iranians called their land as "Airyanem Vaejah"(expanse of the Aryans) and its showing Sapta Sindhu as Hapta Hendu. That' surprising to see its spread until North India while don't cover much of Iran.

Yeah , the Avesta has no knowledge of Western Iran. Even a simple reading does suggest a move westward at some point, reasonably late in combined history. When you then consider that Iranian mythology shows connection only with later parts of the Rg veda & that the closest connection of the Iranian language is in the later Mandala 8, you end up with a lot of unanswered questions of how that can be explained still sticking with the AIT.

 

[Shabaz Sharif]

@Bang Galore Perhaps you find this map interesting, just like Indian Aryavarta, Iranians called their land as "Airyanem Vaejah"(expanse of the Aryans) and its showing Sapta Sindhu as Hapta Hendu. That' surprising to see its spread until North India while don't cover much of Iran.

Gawar Bihari see the map properly, since when did upper sindus become north india? Lol North India is Bihar, UP, Himachel pradesh, rajasthan etc. Just 5% of Upper Sindhu was in India and 95% in Pakistan.

 

[manlion]

@Bang Galore Perhaps you find this map interesting, just like Indian Aryavarta, Iranians called their land as "Airyanem Vaejah"(expanse of the Aryans) and its showing Sapta Sindhu as Hapta Hendu. That' surprising to see its spread until North India while don't cover much of Iran.

in Persian sources Arya refers to ethnicity

Avesta

airyāfi; daiŋˊhāvō "Iranian lands, peoples",

airyō.šayanəm "land inhabited by Iranians",

. Inscription of Darius the Great

2. (8-15.) I am Darius the Great King, King of Kings, King of countries containing all kinds of men, King in this great earth far and wide, son of Hystaspes, an Achaemenian, a Persian, son of a Persian, an Aryan, having Aryan lineage

The claim in Hindu sources, Aryan refers to "noble" is not consistent with Persian sources. This exposes the Aryan Hindu lie

If Hindutvas rely on Persian sources to support their bogus theory , than they need to reconcile the contradictions in usage of terms e.g deva, ARYA , dasyu

 

[punit]

What I got to do with DMK? that's their problem

lol it was for the entire Thread .. "why-chennai-cant-and-wont-speak-hindi:".. yes chennai will speak in hindi if need arises !!

 

[Vinod2070]

Yeah , the Avesta has no knowledge of Western Iran. Even a simple reading does suggest a move westward at some point, reasonably late in combined history. When you then consider that Iranian mythology shows connection only with later parts of the Rg veda & that the closest connection of the Iranian language is in the later Mandala 8, you end up with a lot of unanswered questions of how that can be explained still sticking with the AIT.

I have seen some great work in the study of Puranas, Rigveda, Avesta and sources like Aryan Mittani kingdom (and some others) in the middle East with their unmistakable links with India, now coming to light that shows comprehensively that these sources point to only one direction of the movement of Aryans.

From India to the West.

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PS: There is no contradiction in the usage of words like Deva, Asura, Dasyu etc.

These were just two rival branches of Aryans who use these words to mean good and bad in opposite ways.

Rigveda itself uses Asura as divine celestial beings in the early hymns. The usage to denote demons is in the latter parts and latter scriptures. The Persians used Dasyu to describe themselves in their earliest scriptures. Nothing to do with skin color at all as some clueless people try to claim.

People with no clue and an axe to grind pick up some random parts with motivated translations. They better be ignored as they have nothing to contribute to an issue that anyway has nothing to with them.

 

[INDIC]

Gawar Bihari see the map properly, since when did upper sindus become north india? Lol North India is Bihar, UP, Himachel pradesh, rajasthan etc. Just 5% of Upper Sindhu was in India and 95% in Pakistan.

abe dhakkan, does that look 95%-5%, go back to school learn history, geography and Urdu properly. Anyway, there was no Pakistan even 70years back, so tagging everything as Pakistanis is mostly bizarre.

 

[INDIC]

in Persian sources Arya refers to ethnicity

Avesta

airyāfi; daiŋˊhāvō "Iranian lands, peoples",

airyō.šayanəm "land inhabited by Iranians",

. Inscription of Darius the Great

2. (8-15.) I am Darius the Great King, King of Kings, King of countries containing all kinds of men, King in this great earth far and wide, son of Hystaspes, an Achaemenian, a Persian, son of a Persian, an Aryan, having Aryan lineage

The claim in Hindu sources, Aryan refers to "noble" is not consistent with Persian sources. This exposes the Aryan Hindu lie

If Hindutvas rely on Persian sources to support their bogus theory , than they need to reconcile the contradictions in usage of terms e.g deva, ARYA , dasyu

In both Hinduism and Zoroastrianism Aryan refers to a superior status because of the feeling of cultural superiority in the both Hinduism and Zoroastrianism.Thus, Aryan is not a race.

I am not surprised by a your branding me as Hindutva when lots of morons even branded me as Hindutva because I showed them the genetic test by Harvard Medical School against the Aryan-Dravidian bullcrap.

 

[Vinod2070]

In both Hinduism and Zoroastrianism Aryan refers to a superior status because of the feeling of cultural superiority in the both Hinduism and Zoroastrianism.Thus, Aryan is not a race.

I am not surprised by a your branding me as Hindutva when lots of morons even branded me as Hindutva because I showed them the genetic test by Harvard Medical School against the Aryan-Dravidian bullcrap.

He is probably an Islamofascist.

Most of these people have strong political motives and they betray them quite easily by showing their pathetic phobia.

 

[INDIC]

Most of these people have strong political motives and they betray them quite easily by showing their pathetic phobia.

I am used to it, you must be knowing how it feels when people are desperate to defend Aryan-Dravidian bullcrap at any cost even by discarding genetic studies. Many morons even branded me as Hindu extremist for presenting the genetic studies of Harvard Medical School because it refutes Aryan-Dravidian garbage.

I remember the Iranian guy Abii who is a Zoroastrian once quoting that even in Iranian culture Aryan refers to superior status for cultural superiority just like Hinduism.

 

[manlion]

In both Hinduism and Zoroastrianism Aryan refers to a superior status because of the feeling of cultural superiority in the both Hinduism and Zoroastrianism.Thus, Aryan is not a race.

I am not surprised by a your branding me as Hindutva when lots of morons even branded me as Hindutva because I showed them the genetic test by Harvard Medical School against the Aryan-Dravidian bullcrap.

Aryan in Zoroastrian sources only refers to race/ethnicity

History of the Ancient Aryans

Iran is the ancient name of Persia, and it is derived from the root "Arya" or Aryan, the Indo-European branch of peoples who settled in that land. The Aryans of ancient Iran were Mazdayasni Zarathushtris, ie. Worshippers of Ahura Mazda (the name of God in Avestan) as revealed by the ancient prophet Zarathushtra, thousands of years before Christ.

However, all the ancient Zoroastrian scriptures speak of an earlier homeland from where our people came, the lost "Airyane Vaejahi" or seedland of the Aryans. From this homeland, the Indo- Europeans or Aryans moved to upper India, Iran, Russia and the nations of Europe such as Greece, Italy, Germany, France, Scandinavia, England, Scotland and Ireland.

 

[INDIC]

Aryan in Zoroastrian sources only refers to race/ethnicity

History of the Ancient Aryans

Iran is the ancient name of Persia, and it is derived from the root "Arya" or Aryan, the Indo-European branch of peoples who settled in that land. The Aryans of ancient Iran were Mazdayasni Zarathushtris, ie. Worshippers of Ahura Mazda (the name of God in Avestan) as revealed by the ancient prophet Zarathushtra, thousands of years before Christ.

However, all the ancient Zoroastrian scriptures speak of an earlier homeland from where our people came, the lost "Airyane Vaejahi" or seedland of the Aryans. From this homeland, the Indo- Europeans or Aryans moved to upper India, Iran, Russia and the nations of Europe such as Greece, Italy, Germany, France, Scandinavia, England, Scotland and Ireland.

Airyanem Vaejah is similar to Hindu's Aryavarta but you need to prove that it wasn't related to social status. I have talked to many Iranians, like us Indians they too believe except Indo-Iranians, rest of the Indo-European people are fake Aryans.

 

[Shabaz Sharif]

Airyanem Vaejah is similar to Hindu's Aryavarta but you need to prove that it wasn't related to social status. I have talked to many Iranians, like us Indians they too believe except Indo-Iranians, rest of the Indo-European people are fake Aryans.

Hahaha fake aryans lol when Iranis themselves were invaded by aryans how there can be fake aryan and real one?

abe dhakkan, does that look 95%-5%, go back to school learn history, geography and Urdu properly. Anyway, there was no Pakistan even 70years back, so tagging everything as Pakistanis is mostly bizarre.

Gawar bihari now i will need to learn urdu from bhaiya? Lol Let me tell you what wasnt back then in our land, there was no bihari bhayas. Your kind only migrated after 47 in Karachi.

 

[INDIC]

Hahaha fake aryans lol when Iranis themselves were invaded by aryans how there can be fake aryan and real one?



Gawar bihari now i will need to learn urdu from bhaiya? Lol Let me tell you what wasnt back then in our land, there was no bihari bhayas. Your kind only migrated after 47 in Karachi.

I know why Karachiwale call you with that P'du word. Go to school kid and learn something that makes some of worth for you.

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These were just two rival branches of Aryans who use these words to mean good and bad in opposite ways.

This things hardly matters as both religions had been tolerant to each other and non-proselyting in nature. I was watching a BBC program where they conceded the cultural theft of 'Aryan' from the Indian scriptures after the historians found Swatika in excavation of Troy, and I already explained the cultural theft was meant to fill the cultural voidness of Germanic and Nordic Northern Europe who has no ancient civilization to feel proud of and can't rival the Greeco-Roman culture of South Europe.