Rangers murder young boy in Karachi

[U-571]

Jehadis might not be right word, but many cases are there on records that some mullah type people (alleged TTP) were arrested for kidnapping. remember those who ran away from jail ward of Civil Hospital, who were they? they were kidnappers for ransom, police said they were TTP's people.
I meant those kind of people man.

some mullah type people??, man if you had been living pakistan you must know in karachi all pashtuns etc dress the same, how can you distinguish if he is a mullah or not, or related to TTP, please stop insulting the race as a whole, altaf bhai has done enough damage segregating the people, and declaring every pathan a taliban terrorist

every terrorist/criminal is not a jehadi, madrassah educated, brainwashed taliban, suicide bomber mullah, alquaeda, hizbullah, religious, islamic terrorist, jamaat islami or say pathan, there are terrorists in all race and they should be condemned irrespective of their races or religion

 

[Tiger Awan]

people in this are so stupid, they are commenting in this thread like the guy was innocent or something, or he was a jehadi or islamic bigotted extremist terrorist mullah

the reality is, in karachi robbers mercilessly kill innocent people for resisting themslevs to be robbed, many sons have died this way, i think the half inbred posters before making it a national issue or comparing this robber to jehadi or the rangers jehadi should understand the situation in karachi before opening their useless mouths

Even if that guy had killed someone rangers should have JUST ARRESTED HIM

OK i know many judges are corrupt but what you want. Just because our judicial system is not working properly we should leave such matters at the mercy of these rangers and police (who are corrupt themselves).

 

[VCheng]

if you look at history, you shouldnt be TOO worried.....worrying alone wont solve the problems.

Karachi of 1990s was worse than the Karachi of today in my opinion though it was purely political and there werent suicide bombers and car bombers, etc. etc.. There were many such cases of police excesses in the past --and in those days media didnt exist to report (expose) such things. The police of those days were more like personal body guards and pawns used to whoop the fat a.sses of political opponents.

I think Rangers have much improvement needed and need a better training and equipment, but i wouldnt villify the entire organization because that is wrong.....same way Pakistanis hate being labelled corrupt or extremist --these guys (and the members of armed forces) dont enjoy public to generalize and dress them down. they need your support

of course when crap like this happens -- action must be taken and heads shud roll. There has to be accountability for actions. This action --which we could see clearly on video -- is not justifiable in any way or form. So im sure action will be taken. The fact that this incident is being discussed angrily in parliament and has been met with so much shock in Pakistan I think there is no need for concern that these rangers involved would be let off the hook

Thank you for such a level headed and fair post. I hope that the investigation is fair and quick, and that justice is meted out to whomever needed.

 

[S.M.R]

when did i say, killing would have been justified, i said it would have been another case, because the punishment of the killer is execution anyway

karachi is prone to immense street crimes and most of the case the robbers bribe these police guys and are set free, so people try o take law in their hands, my point is if the justice is provided to people, they would stop taking laws in their hands

aaaaaahhhh... have you ever been to courts? which justice you are talking about. Have you ever been robbed? if yes, did you go to Police for report, if yes, then were you able to lodge the 'Pakki FIR'?, if yes then How many times Police has called you for Shanakht Parade? Police just makes your life hell, if you are able to lodge the Pakki FIR. There are so many IFs when done, Pakistan will be heaven.

 

[Xracer]

Sari Hokomat hi hy toh ranger kasay na hn

 

[Kavin]

Allah has given us right to execute these kinda Robbers....no Question.....Alhamdolillah....

“Thus saith the Lord, 'Verily those who are patient in adversity and forgive wrongs, are the doers of excellence.'”
- Prophet Muhammad(PUH)

Okay I pray then somebody rob u in broad daylight on gun point of all ure belongingz.....then I guess u gonna learn how u feel....
Alhamdolillah ! Iam not Kharji ....and I know what Iam saying dont have to be scared of anybody in telling the truth...and according to my knowledge The Rangers did the right thing.....if u agree or dont agree...
but I knw u will agree when somebody will try to shoot u while robbing u ......

“Do not say, that if the people do good to us, we will do good to them and if the people oppress us, we will oppress them but determine that if people do you good, you will do good to them and if they oppress you, you will not oppress them.”
- Prophet Muhammad (PUH)

@ topic
RIP

 

[S.M.R]

some mullah type people??, man if you had been living pakistan you must know in karachi all pashtuns etc dress the same, how can you distinguish if he is a mullah or not, or related to TTP, please stop insulting the race as a whole, altaf bhai has done enough damage segregating the people, and declaring every pathan a taliban terrorist

every terrorist/criminal is not a jehadi, madrassah educated, brainwashed taliban, suicide bomber mullah, alquaeda, hizbullah, religious, islamic terrorist, jamaat islami or say pathan, there are terrorists in all race and they should be condemned irrespective of their races or religion

Extremists

I was talking about above link.

and another one
http://www.dawn.com/2011/05/16/ttp-man-kidnapper-escape-from-hospital.html

Where did i referred pashtuns? it is you who is trying to drags pashtuns into this.

 

[Peregrine]

Hey AH, rangers are NOT 'fooji'!! They are civil armed forces!

O please! and who command this so-called civil armed force?

 

[Stealth IFV]

Signs of an undisciplined force, shooting civilians with high powered G3's, something that even the folks at Guantanamo don't get for street justice!

 

[U-571]

Even if that guy had killed someone rangers should have JUST ARRESTED HIM

OK i know many judges are corrupt but what you want. Just because our judicial system is not working properly we should leave such matters at the mercy of these rangers and police (who are corrupt themselves).

im only trying to bring this event in the light of the conditions in karachi where the robbers are rampant, and are normlly protected by police, i dont say the rangers did the correct thing, but im just bringing this story into the light of current events, im equally horrified by this killing, it was brutal, the guy didnt deserve that

 

[Desert Fox]

some mullah type people??, man if you had been living pakistan you must know in karachi all pashtuns etc dress the same, how can you distinguish if he is a mullah or not, or related to TTP, please stop insulting the race as a whole, altaf bhai has done enough damage segregating the people, and declaring every pathan a taliban terrorist

every terrorist/criminal is not a jehadi, madrassah educated, brainwashed taliban, suicide bomber mullah, alquaeda, hizbullah, religious, islamic terrorist, jamaat islami or say pathan, there are terrorists in all race and they should be condemned irrespective of their races or religion

of course, these people will always attack Pathans, if thousands of Pathans dies from drone strikes you won't see Karachite or his Mohajir buddies defending the innocent Pakhtuns but when one criminal gets caught by the rangers red handed and killed by Rangers Karachite and his like start jumping up and down whining as if the sky is falling.

I agree that the ranger should have not taken justice into his own hands but when do people like Karachite stand up for the innocent people who die in Waziristan at the hands of terrorists and Drone strikes? In fact these same people term all of those innocents as "terrorists". Its just hypocrisy at its best.

 

[Xeric]

I said since the last view incidents.......and I said opinion of people.... I am sure layman knows no difference between rangers and fooj or whatever security forces etc, for them men in uniform are fooji, have you never been in commoners ?

P.S: not view but Few

It doesnt matter. No need to bale out now. We know what you meant.

Except those retards who cant even wipe their snout (God forbids) and those villagers who live in places like Jazzuk, Bibi Lor etc (Balochistan) who have to walk for days to get a bucket of drinking water and those who have never left their birth place and have spent generation there, everybody else (especially) who has an internet connection and can search for **** knows the fcuking difference between the Police, FC, Rangers and the Army! But then that's a separate case if they want that others should consider them R-Tards, nevertheless!

P.S. Believe me, you can just not imagine who deep i have been with 'commoners'. Now let me ask you, have YOU ever spent nights at truck hotels, Rs 5 per manji motels and with those who dont bathe for 7 months considering the below freezing temperatures? Or have you been with and consoled grandmas who still (actually) think that guys in uniform are not humans but supernaturals? Or may be, when was the last time you traveled from Karachi to Abbotabad via bus and the guy sitting next to you was like 'hey, you shouldnt drink leemo pani after you have taken milk, or else "aapnay jo doodh piya hai wo phat jayga"..!!!

No crap, no BS!!

 

[Tiger Awan]

im only trying to bring this event in the light of the conditions in karachi where the robbers are rampant, and are normlly protected by police, i dont say the rangers did the correct thing, but im just bringing this story into the light of current events, im equally horrified by this killing, it was brutal, the guy didnt deserve that

ok. got your point.

A guy near my house got himself killed because he refused to hand over some 250 rs to the robbers. Its every where but in Karachi frequency is high.

 

[Xeric]

O please! and who command this so-called civil armed force?

The MoI.

Oh, i know what are you trying to say here. The officer lot comes from the Army, though most of the junior officer are enrolled directly. and guess what, the Army Officers are "deputed" to MoI, that;s to say, they are no more under the command of the military, their pay and allowances and discipline and training are all made up as per the laws governing any other Civil Armed Forces of Pakistan (try reading about the CAFs). It's just like you give the command of Police to a Capt or Maj but then he has to run it as per the dictates of the civilian laws and if they commit any lapse, they are dealt with Pakistan Penal Code and NOT under MPML (Manual of Pakistan Military Law). In short, the military has NOTHING to do with Pakistan Civil Armed Forces, it's just because these cadres cant afford a dedicated Officer lot so to economize the resources officers are deputed to these organizations.

i know that the same officers are responsible for the training and discipline of their men in CAF, but then a mistake or crime by them cannot be attributed to the military or Army whatsoever. Rangers are just a Policing Forces, only that they have a few more heavy weapons and a bit more training than their counterparts in Police, so you better compare them with Police rather than bringing in the Army.

It's just like a retd Colonel runs (read have a job in) PTA (Pakistan Telecomm Authority) and that when PTA fcuks up, the Army automatically gets blamed. How intelligent!

Rangers are answerable to Sir R. Malik after they have answered to the Chief Secretary and NOT the COAS. So it shouldnt come to you as a surprise when they (the rangers and those who command them) do what the Romans do in Rome.

 

[U-571]

of course, these people will always attack Pathans, if thousands of Pathans dies from drone strikes you won't see Karachite or his Mohajir buddies defending the innocent Pakhtuns but when one criminal gets caught by the rangers red handed and killed by Rangers Karachite and his like start jumping up and down whining as if the sky is falling.

I agree that the ranger should have not taken justice into his own hands but when do people like Karachite stand up for the innocent people who die in Waziristan at the hands of terrorists and Drone strikes? In fact these same people term all of those innocents as "terrorists". Its just hypocrisy at its best.

well karachites are the one who understand the situation better then any pakistani and condemn military and they are not brainwashed by the media and musharraf, altaf or mqm hardly represent the karachi people.. your own pashtun brothers in PDF a.k.a mjnaushad etc etc supported the drone attacks and are still supporting, i remember i was in pashtun forum once, and i spoke against this pashtun killings both by army operation in swat etc and drone attacks, but your pashtun members used bad words for me and supported those actions