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sleep-deprivation caused by thoughts that keep on going : tips that may save you misery or your life

I do have insomnia some times ago, I rather see my problem is due to my spirituality drop. Once my spirituality get back I can sleep again. My advice to you is to strenghten your relationship with God. In this matter I advice you to embrace Islam and start praying 5 times daily.

حَسْبُنَا اللَّهُ وَنِعْمَ الْوَكِيلُ
Allah (Alone) is Sufficient for us, and He is the Best Disposer of affairs (for us)
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–Quran, Surah Al ‘Imran (3:173)

Well said, if you(not you personally, persons in general) are close to God and believe in him and his presence, you will know that whatever happens is bound to happen and release some pressure off yourself. If you don't believe in God, you are going to scare yourself more by worrying too much and thinking you will end up dead from sleep deprivation. Even though it's super rare to kill, it will be bad for health in long term but for that to happen too is really rare. Brain can repair itself even from months of insomnia or little sleep, once you get back on track. It's good to make prayers and ask God to look after you every prayer. And we are advised to keep making dua by the Prophet himself.
 
Well said, if you(not you personally, persons in general) are close to God and believe in him and his presence, you will know that whatever happens is bound to happen and release some pressure off yourself. If you don't believe in God, you are going to scare yourself more by worrying too much and thinking you will end up dead from sleep deprivation. Even though it's super rare to kill, it will be bad for health in long term but for that to happen too is really rare. Brain can repair itself even from months of insomnia or little sleep, once you get back on track. It's good to make prayers and ask God to look after you every prayer. And we are advised to keep making dua by the Prophet himself.

What I would like to say is that it is God present that actually improve our mood and feeling. It is the soul that should get closer to God, not only the mind. My experience is insomnia with depression. Your advice to me month ago is the recipe, which is keep praying 5 times daily even though I still feel that I am still far away from God and God is still mad on me. As said in Quran that we should not lose hope on ALLAH, ALLAH is Ar-Rahman The Most Beneficent.
 
What I would like to say is that it is God present that actually improve our mood and feeling. It is the soul that should get closer to God, not only the mind. My experience is insomnia with depression. Your advice to me month ago is the recipe, which is keep praying 5 times daily even though I still feel that I am still far away from God and God is still mad on me. As said in Quran that we should not lose hope on ALLAH, ALLAH is Ar-Rahman The Most Beneficent.

Sounds good bro, one other advice, Allah(SWT) is more merciful upon you than you are upon yourself. Just remember that, he is not mad with you, on contrary it is guaranteed meeting Salah and remember Allah(SWT) means he will remember you. Its his promise in the Quran. So don't be too hard on yourself. :)
 
When I can't sleep I do push ups until my arms give out then take a shower. Always works.
 
thoughts rambling on and on, to the extent of not being able to sleep at all, period, for an unknown and seemingly endless time.

So i have this problem too.

I have the solution (which may be tricky if you have a spouse and no extra bedrooms).

Step #1: NyQuil Cold & Flu (cherry flavor)
Step #2: Play Doug's car review list at a volume just loud enough that it interferes with your thinking (just minimize youtube and turn your brightness down):

youtube.com/watch?v=_eXcPKdarLQ&list=UUsqjHFMB_JYTaEnf_vmTNqg

The key is he is talking about stuff which while interesting it is not thought provoking. So you have no reason to dwell on what he says. With the NyQuil you won't get through 2 or 3 of his videos. This is the only solution that works 100% of the time for me.
 
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i'm proficient in many professions, including zen and tai chi quan, and all the military-grade kungfu styles this world has to "offer" of course. or at least the counter-moves to the moves they publish via youtube.

Tai Chi and zen arts are all messed up with demonic energy. They slowly alter your consciousness from what you were to some one who is only partly there.

I have had been there and done that mate, and have been to the depth of these things.
I'm trained in the art of Ninjutsu and Samurai Jutsu, and to an extent the Bokator, and have been following the Bushido for a very long time.


but that aside, I;m not talking about any of this but your psychological personality profile.
Take a few MBTI/Personality tests, and figure out your Enneagram type, and then read up on your resulting type. You'll discover a lot about yourself.
 
Tai Chi and zen arts are all messed up with demonic energy. They slowly alter your consciousness from what you were to some one who is only partly there.

I have had been there and done that mate, and have been to the depth of these things.
I'm trained in the art of Ninjutsu and Samurai Jutsu, and to an extent the Bokator, and have been following the Bushido for a very long time.


but that aside, I;m not talking about any of this but your psychological personality profile.
Take a few MBTI/Personality tests, and figure out your Enneagram type, and then read up on your resulting type. You'll discover a lot about yourself.

well, zen and tai-chi are far from even slightly messed up by demonic energy where i live.. :)

but thanks for that tip about personality tests, i'll look into that one day soon :)
 
well, zen and tai-chi are far from even slightly messed up by demonic energy where i live.. :)

but thanks for that tip about personality tests, i'll look into that one day soon :)


Well mate, you might not understand but Chi is nothing but demonic energy. It's not something from within yourself but something that is added to your inner self from outside which makes you stronger and yet hollow.

Like, I said I've spent good enough time with the ideals and concepts and trained for Tai-Chi-Quan for long enough to figure this out and abandon the process.

I'm a Ninja when it comes to stealth and deception and quick efficient attacking, but I prefer to walk the footsteps of the Samurai in the life as a whole. Bushido or the "Way of the Warrior(Samurai)" is as close to Islam as anything can be, except the loyalty and servitude to an earthly master, which for me is for the Lord of Heavens.

Do let me know after you have taken those tests, I can help you figure out the problem, as I happen to be a student and follower of Jungian Psychology...
 
That’s great to hear!
What are some of your hobbies if I may ask?
Sorry, due to all sorts of shady characters and worse also lurking on these military / political forums,
i do not feel comfortable sharing that information here.

Well mate, you might not understand but Chi is nothing but demonic energy. It's not something from within yourself but something that is added to your inner self from outside which makes you stronger and yet hollow.

Like, I said I've spent good enough time with the ideals and concepts and trained for Tai-Chi-Quan for long enough to figure this out and abandon the process.

I'm a Ninja when it comes to stealth and deception and quick efficient attacking, but I prefer to walk the footsteps of the Samurai in the life as a whole. Bushido or the "Way of the Warrior(Samurai)" is as close to Islam as anything can be, except the loyalty and servitude to an earthly master, which for me is for the Lord of Heavens.

Do let me know after you have taken those tests, I can help you figure out the problem, as I happen to be a student and follower of Jungian Psychology...
i'll do those tests within a few days, weeks at most, and let you know in a private message, ok.
 
It definitely shows in your post. There are a few possible causes to the issues:-

1. You are (or have in the past) eating too much sugar or Aspartame
2. You are not exercising enough
3. You have too much salt in your diet
4. Something in your food chain has neurotoxins

I strongly suggest you control what you eat and drink and do 30 minutes of exercises before you sleep . I guarantee your issues will resolve.

I have a suggestion for this guy. STOP HATING. All anxieties will disappear. This is the same guy who goes around bragging how US/NATO forces should invade Pakistan. That would give me anxieties too.
 
Sorry, due to all sorts of shady characters and worse also lurking on these military / political forums,
i do not feel comfortable sharing that information here.


i'll do those tests within a few days, weeks at most, and let you know in a private message, ok.
I suggest you take up physical hobbies such as bodybuilding or a sport. Usually that will exhaust your body plenty. May help with you falling asleep.
 
I personally have this problem from time to time,

thoughts rambling on and on, to the extent of not being able to sleep at all, period, for an unknown and seemingly endless time.

the cause of the rambling thoughts that can’t be calmed down into something that allows you to fall asleep like a normal human, can be any of the following :

  • your fantasy running at some speed based on something you read, saw, or heard, or something you happened to think up while bored, etc, etc.
  • multiple personality disorder (google it perhaps)
  • what psychiatry calls the “delusion” telepathy and labels “voices in your head” instead, is in fact not for everyone a delusion, at least not according to my honest life experience. for more information, see my telepathy manual at http://tinyurl.com/telepathybyrv which points to https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/0By4ZHMBgG5oCVExSczVQNThpNUE
sleep-deprivation is potentially deadly, but there are only basic scientific study results available about after how many nights and days after another without any true sleep at all, even “the average” or “military-trained” human, will die.

It gets really tricky after 3 or 4 nights for most soldiers (you may have more or less workload that that particular soldier reported on at the web-address listed below here, but that is actually of little relevance to how long you can last without real sleep, based on my own life-experience (i’m 41 at the time of writing and publishing this).

It gets downright deadly after 7 nights and days without real sleep, for the vast majority of humans, if they don’t receive any help at all.

that is why psychiatry has the very best sleeping meds on the planet available in their hospitals, and yes, that’s the only place they’re handed out (*inside* hospital, to patients) because sleeping meds are tricky to use and best avoided when possible.

but as you can read in my telepathy manual, i’ve been there (in mental hospital), it’s often unpleasant to have to stay there too. If you ever end up there, accept the fact that you’re locked in a ward with other people who are in problems, and that you’re there probably 24/7, for a few months in a row, to properly cure you and fix you back to full health.

you’ll have a psychiatric record, so applying for worker disability pension / benefits, is a wise idea, if this type of situation happens to you unpredictably or more than say once per 3 years. Because you won’t be able to hold a job with a psychiatric record and the need to recover months-long in a hospital.

psychiatry offers little psychological help, but you can usually get at least some psychological help by just being nice to others on the ward you might end up on. It’s patients helping patients, nurses helping patients, and sometimes patients helping nurses, fix eachother’s psychological hurdles, in casual conversations.

psychiatry itself runs on 2 principles : demanding obedience from their patients as a test to see if they can function peacefully in society (or when they can again), and anti-psychotics, which are all dopamine-blockers.

dopamine is the neuro-transmitter natural chemical generated by the human body when you feel happy over something.

because of all of this, the chances of ending up in a depression via psychiatry saving you from lethal levels of sleep deprivation, are great.

you need to appreciate the little things that others take for granted, if you unfortunately end up in this situation,

a roof over your head, food-stores filled properly (including the checking of experation dates) so you can skip a day of going outside when you need to,

and things like art, music, something to give your life purpose in your own eyes and maybe also in the eyes of the ones of whom you value their opinion about you (parents, romantic partner, your own kids if you have those when this disease/problem hits you).

you’re now free of the rat-race, have total freedom of agenda, but probably unpredictably recurring hard periods in which you’re fighting for your life.

but here’s the important thing : this is not a physical fight with anyone.

it’s a fight to return to a regular and easily entered normal sleep pattern.

you’ll get the advice from doctors to try to “slap” your day-night rythm back into shape by only trying to sleep at the regular human sleeping hours, and doing something to keep yourself awake until then. i suspect that won’t work for everyone, because it doesn’t work for me.

so what i do is i sleep when i can, for as long as i can.

and other than that, it’s simple : keep your house clean enough to receive an unexpected visitor whenever you can, keep your freezer and your fridge stocked with stuff that’s not about to go over it’s expiration date, don’t over-eat just to try to feel happy, happiness is never achieved from just 1 something in your life i think.

keep the music/movie volume low during 19:00–07:00 (small kiddie and all other humans’ normal sleeping time),

but feel free to turn it up a bit during day-time hours, and don’t forget to keep track of what day of the week and what day of what month it is, because you need to know when it’s sunday and a certain shop might be closed in your area. last thing you want to do is make stupid mistakes in public and appear “confused”, coz that leads to people making reports to police, who, after a few such reports, usually have you picked up for a few months recovery in mental hospital. which is an uncomfortable prison, in most areas, even most western rich cities.

For more details on what of these limits are known, see https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/13/human-body-limits-survival_n_1773167.html

the first thing that gets difficult, right on day 2, the first day after a night of not getting any real sleep at all,

are things like :

  • riding a bycicle
  • driving a car
  • going to the supermarket — you may forget to actually focus on what’s travelling over the intersections that you need to cross on your shopping walk, and get hit by a vehicle that you normally speaking would have seen in time to avoid colliding with it, in your usual way.
  • using the ATM to get cash out of the wall, and then storing it all in the proper place in your wallet. tip here is to have standard spots for all your vital items like phone, wallet, home-keys, any electronics you take with you, in all clothing you’re wearing during that month of the year. And to actually check regularly, do i still have all my stuff. And to remember, by properly focussing and vocalizing in your thoughts things like : “yes, i did put my ATM card back in my wallet and my wallet is in it’s usual pocket”.
  • placing orders and properly storing your purchases for travel back home, in stores and markets, etc, etc, any place where something is sold for money.
  • planning your shopping-trip. especially if you need to use stores that you’ve never used before. best done on paper on days like this, and don’t forget to bring that paper, in your wallet somewhere.
  • choosing between silence when you try to sleep or music/movie/TV/reading/working because you can’t sleep anyways. it’s better to be doing something you like than lying on bed trying to sleep, and realizing it’s just not going to work due to something that’s wrong.
If I were you, I will get myself diagnosed for sleep apnea. Also, stop using a screen past 8 or 9 pm, read a book instead.
 
i'll do those tests within a few days, weeks at most, and let you know in a private message, ok.


Sure mate, feel free to discuss.
I'm a student of Jungian psychology and of the personality typing systems, it's kind of like a passion for me to know how people and their brains function and how to improve them.

If I were you, I will get myself diagnosed for sleep apnea. Also, stop using a screen past 8 or 9 pm, read a book instead.


He might also be tongue tied. Medically speaking, I would look at that as the first thing, before moving on to other symptoms.
And of course, psychological and physical issues are usually co related and one originates with an imbalance in the other.
 
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