Air force / navy future show down. India air force Rafale vs India navy MiG-29 K. Rate in poll.

[Ultima Thule]

I worship Russia.

For baseless reasons @undertakerwwefan

 

[Ultima Thule]

I'm a BIG Russia worshipper.

For retard reasons @undertakerwwefan

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

yeah i know that @undertakerwwefan But RAFALE has An advantages over MIG29K in Almost every thing like range, payloads, better radar+avionics, better sensor fusion, better T/W ratio, Better wing loading etc etc @undertakerwwefan

Proof?

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Rafale:
+ Lower RCS
+ More fuel
+ More modern avionics
+ Targeting pods

MiG-35
+ higher speed

MiG-29 K has RAM. Very small RCS. I doubt Rafale has smaller RCS.

The radar signature of the aircraft is reduced by four to five times over the basic MiG-29.

https://www.naval-technology.com/projects/mig-29k-carrier-based-multirole-fighter-aircraft/

MiG-29 K can be easily upgraded with the modular Zhuk A AESA and the T220 EOT pod.

 

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MiG-29 K has RAM. Very small RCS. I doubt Rafale has smaller RCS.

The radar signature of the aircraft is reduced by four to five times over the basic MiG-29.

https://www.naval-technology.com/projects/mig-29k-carrier-based-multirole-fighter-aircraft/

MiG-29 K can be easily upgraded with the modular Zhuk A AESA and the T220 EOT pod.

It does not have RAM does not have AESA does not have pods. All just plans.

 

[Ultima Thule]

Proof?

Go read the the article you about RAFALE/MIG-29K in your first post you stupid @undertakerwwefan

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

It does not have RAM does not have AESA does not have pods. All just plans.

You are wrong. MiG-29 K / KUB has RAM.

The plane is able to attain very high angles of attack. It has upgraded pilot displays and radar-absorbent coatings to reduce its radar signature. The open architecture allows the installation of new equipment and weapons. The MiG-29K boasts composite materials and an integrated digital «fly-by-wire» system with multiple backups. It is designed to operate from unprepared airstrips with its air intakes specially protected against debris.

https://www.strategic-culture.org/n...k-ship-based-fighter-battle-tested-syria.html

Zhuk ME is extremely capable mechanical. It is on par with F-18 E / F's APG-73. Rafale's AESA has no advantage over it.

 

[Ultima Thule]

MiG-29 K has RAM. Very small RCS. I doubt Rafale has smaller RCS.

The radar signature of the aircraft is reduced by four to five times over the basic MiG-29.

https://www.naval-technology.com/projects/mig-29k-carrier-based-multirole-fighter-aircraft/

MiG-29 K can be easily upgraded with the modular Zhuk A AESA and the T220 EOT pod.

MIG-29K has the weaker engine for its size hence low T/W ratio @undertakerwwefan , in certain areas like air intake, wing leading edges, horizontal/vertical tails but RAFALE is also mostly using RAM/composite materials for all over RAFALE fuselage as compare to Mig-29K @undertakerwwefan

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

MIG-29K has the weaker engine for its size hence low T/W ratio @undertakerwwefan , in certain areas like air intake, wing leading edges, horizontal/vertical tails but RAFALE is also mostly using RAM/composite materials for all over RAFALE fuselage as compare to Mig-29K @undertakerwwefan

MiG-29 K empty weight 11,000 kg.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikoyan_MiG-29K

Rafale empty weight 10,300 kg 2 seat air force version.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dassault_Rafale

Not much difference. However, Rafale engine is only 16,860 lb power compared to MiG-29 K engine 19,800 lb power.

So MiG-29 K has better T/W ratio.

 

[Ultima Thule]

Rafale's AESA has no advantage over it.

That show you have 4 year old shit brain @undertakerwwefan then why offering MIG-29K for export @undertakerwwefan

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

That show you have 4 year old shit brain @undertakerwwefan then why offering MIG-29K for export @undertakerwwefan

Same question can be asked. Why offer Rafale for export? Why only 5 countries in the world can make planes? Why the other countries can't make planes have to buy?

 

[Ultima Thule]

MiG-29 K empty weight 11,000 kg.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikoyan_MiG-29K

Rafale empty weight 10,300 kg 2 seat air force version.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dassault_Rafale

Not much difference. However, Rafale engine is only 16,860 lb power compared to MiG-29 K engine 19,800 lb power.

So MiG-29 K has better T/W ratio.

go retard worship and lick Russian military tech senselessly @undertakerwwefan Both are almost Same from your OP articles @undertakerwwefan

MIG-29K

• Thrust/weight: 0.97

RAFALE

• Thrust/weight: 0.988 (100% fuel, 2 EM A2A missile, 2 IR A2A missile) version B

@undertakerwwefan

 

[Ultima Thule]

Same question can be asked. Why offer Rafale for export? Why only 5 countries in the world can make planes? Why the other countries can't make planes have to buy?

Sorry my mistake, i am asking that question to you that why they are offering MIG-29K with AESA, if MIG-29K mechanical radar is on par with RAFALE AESA you brain shit @undertakerwwefan

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Sorry my mistake, i am asking that question to you that why they are offering MIG-29K with AESA, if MIG-29K mechanical radar is on par with RAFALE AESA you brain shit @undertakerwwefan

That's like saying why all the new planes have DSI. Because same capability. But easier servicing.

 

[Ultima Thule]

That's like saying why F-18 E got APG-79 which is the AESA version of APG-73. Because it is evolution. Same capability. But easier servicing.

And russian developed AESA lot later than west/US instead they master in developing PESA which is inferior to AESA. First AESA of the world was developed by USA for UAE F-16 blk60 in early 2000 and Japanese F-2 in mid 90's and F-22 radar development completed in late 90's so they have the experience to build far more better AESA than russian, Russian are just a beginner in the development of AESA @undertakerwwefan