Beasts of the high seas. Carrier-capable multi roles in the world. Rate them in the poll.

[Yaseen1]

F-35 B / C cannot fit anti ship missiles in its internal weapons bay like Su-57 K can which can fit Kh-59 MK2 cruise missiles in its internal bays. Plus F-35 B / C lacks super cruise and TVC and 360 degrees radar coverage and Mach 2+ speed Su-57 K has, and also being single seat single engine ain't as suitable for carrier ops as Su-57 K is.

russian yak 41was world first vertical takeoff jet where it went?

 

[Ultima Thule]

F-35 B / C cannot fit anti ship missiles in its internal weapons bay like Su-57 K can which can fit Kh-59 MK2 cruise missiles in its internal bays. Plus F-35 B / C lacks super cruise and TVC and 360 degrees radar coverage and Mach 2+ speed Su-57 K has, and also being single seat single engine ain't as suitable for carrier ops as Su-57 K is.

F-35 can fit harpoon/ naval strike missiles from Norway as well as Turkish one and LRSAM from its internal bays, super cruise isn't important US/western 6th gen jet will not have this capability, as for TVC is more maintenance prone than Fixed engine nozzle and also remember most maneuverable jets of today lack TVC like F-16/SU-27/Mig-29/EF-2000/RAFALE/J-10 etc etc , and F-35 has a 360 coverage by radar, top speed doesn't matter, acceleration that matter for maneuverability/agility and who said you that single engine jet is not suitable for carrier ops, the only advatange of twin engine jet for carriers is safety features @undertakerwwefan

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

and who said you that single engine jet is not suitable for carrier ops, the only advatange of twin engine jet for carriers is safety features

F-35 B / C is single seat single engine. Su-57 K is double seat double engine. Su-57 K is far more suitable for carrier ops than F-35 B / C.

also remember most maneuverable jets of today lack TVC like F-16/SU-27/Mig-29/EF-2000/RAFALE/J-10 etc etc

Nope. F-22 and Su-35 and Su-30 are way more maneuverable. And they can hover. You need to have TVC to hover. One nozzle blows this way. The other nozzle blows the other way. Two equal and opposite forces cancel out one another. Without TVC you cannot hover.

 

[Ultima Thule]

F-35 B / C is single seat single engine. Su-57 K is double seat double engine. Su-57 K is far more suitable for carrier ops than F-35 B / C.

there is lot of single engine, single seat, jets for carrier ops in past prime examples are Harrier, F-8, YAK-38 etc etc,and Su-57 is nonexistent currently and btw as for your Information whole PAK-FA is in danger to closing down so let wait and see @undertakerwwefan

Nope. F-22 and Su-35 and Su-30 are way more maneuverable. And they can hover. You need to have TVC to hover. One nozzle blows this way. The other nozzle blows the other way. Two equal and opposite forces cancel out one another. Without TVC you cannot hover.

and what do you mean hover @undertakerwwefan ???fighter jets can't hover like helicopter does @undertakerwwefan

In front of SAMs and AAMs TVC worth nothing because SAMs and AAMs maneuvering 50- 60 Gs respectively whereas jets maneuvering at 9 or as much as 11 Gs and that's the limit that human body can sustain high Gs, the only way to defend your jet from an attack to SAM and AAM is electronics ie RWR, ECM, EW, Chaff and flare not maneuverability/agility @undertakerwwefan

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

there is lot of single engine, single seat, jets for carrier ops in past prime examples are Harrier, F-8, YAK-38

They have long been retired by their originators.

and what do you mean hover @undertakerwwefan ???fighter jets can't hover like helicopter does @undertakerwwefan

They can stop in mid air with their noses pointing upward.

 

[Ultima Thule]

They can stop in mid air with their noses pointing upward.

mere for few seconds and are you talking about cobra maneuver @undertakerwwefan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pugachev's_Cobra
its a useless maneuver not using at any combat situations @undertakerwwefan

They have long been retired by their originators.

Retired or not it doesn't matter, it would show you that single engine jets are/was/will be suitable for carrier ops @undertakerwwefan

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

mere for few seconds and are you talking about cobra maneuver

Nope. That's done without TVC. With TVC they can hold that position for minutes or longer instead of a second or two.

You can see F-22 doing it at the 4:20 mark.

 

[Ultima Thule]

Nope. That's done without TVC. With TVC they can hold that position for minutes or longer instead of a second or two.

You can see F-22 doing it at the 4:20 mark.

But is useless in combat situation , only good for airshows @undertakerwwefan

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

But is useless in combat situation , only good for airshows @undertakerwwefan

In dog fight it can throw the enemy plane off. He is on your six. Hovers. Enemy plane zooms ahead. Boom. Now YOU are on HIS six.

 

[Ultima Thule]

In dog fight it can throw the enemy plane off. He is on your six. Hovers. Enemy plane zooms ahead. Boom. Now YOU are on HIS six.

In dog fights enemy fire you 5th gen short range IR missiles which can maneuver 50-60 Gs and your plane maneuvering at 9 Gs as much as 11 Gs whether its using TVC or not its impossible to evade 5th short range IR air to air missiles only relying on TVC you stupid @undertakerwwefan

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

In dog fights enemy fire you 5th gen short range IR missiles which can maneuver 50-60 Gs and your plane maneuvering at 9 Gs as much as 11 Gs whether its using TVC or not its impossible to evade 5th short range IR air to air missiles only relying on TVC you stupid @undertakerwwefan

The one who can get on the other's six will always have the advantage. IR missiles can be fooled. Auto cannon rounds cannot be.

F-4 initially had no auto cannon. Now the latest jets have auto cannon.

 

[Ultima Thule]

The one who can get on the other's six will always have the advantage. IR missiles can be fooled. Auto cannon rounds cannot be.

F-4 initially had no auto cannon. Now the latest jets have auto cannon.

No 5th gen short range air to air missiles can't be fool or hardest to be fooled because its using latest imaging IR seeker and cannon is the least accurate weapons of fighter jets, and only used in last resort where all weapons are used @undertakerwwefan

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

No 5th gen short range air to air missiles can't be fool or hardest to be fooled because its using latest imaging IR seeker and cannon is the least accurate weapons of fighter jets, and only used in last resort where all weapons are used @undertakerwwefan

Every electronic can be fooled.

 

[Ultima Thule]

Every electronic can be fooled.

IR can fool only to flares you stupid @undertakerwwefan

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

IR can fool only to flares you stupid @undertakerwwefan

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