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Another foreigner's view about Pakistan, visited India earlier, Karl Rock

india may not have motorways but our new highways are not that bad , sure not as good as your motorways , but then majority of pakistanis don't use those motorways , majority travel by pakistani highways right ? as your motorways are access controlled


Yes that was my point, lately India is building a lots of expressways, and they don't have restricted entry of vehicles, fencing as Motorways have in Pakistan plus add to this the policing and rest and refuel area after every 50 kms as shown in the video.

Now majority of Pakistanis uses these Motorways, mostly through intercity buses, there is a mushroom growth in intercity luxury bus travel. Now many portions of Khi-Peshawar motorway is completed and buses uses this route, old GT road, and National highways has trucks and old buses. The traffic is still good on GT road as well.

Yes Indian rail infra is definitely better...
 
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Sire... asked this question elsewhere, what is a good basmati brand to get?

well, I personally like a brand called "Marjan", long grain and they have taste. but am not their promoter or anything.

There's also an Indian copy with same name "Marjan". But I am talking about "Made in Pakistan" One.


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Yes, but but one i bought in jozie was par boiled. not good.

Was it this one:?
this is Indian copy. Not original Marjan.

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Now majority of Pakistanis uses these Motorways, mostly through intercity buses, there is a mushroom growth in intercity luxury bus travel. Now many portions of Khi-Peshawar motorway is completed and buses uses this route, old GT road, and National highways has trucks and old buses. The traffic is still good on GT road as well.
"majority" is an overstatement
rest and refuel area after every 50 kms as shown in the video.
expressways do have rest and refuel areas . On highways they are not required as they pass through so many semi urban / urban areas and are anyway dotted with dhabas and road side restaurants and what not
 
Adding some fuel to this thread:D

https://blog.indiasurvivalguide.com/the-differences-between-india-pakistan/


The Differences Between India & Pakistan
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Written by Karl Rock on May 4, 2018 in Pakistan, Sights & Activities
Everyone I met in Pakistan was very curious about India. Their top question was, “What’s the difference between India and Pakistan? Are they similar?” The answer is, yes, there is a familiarity between India and Pakistan. After all, they used to be the same country. But at the same time, there are a few differences.

Here’s what I noticed from a traveller’s perspective.

Food: Pakistan = non-veg, India = veg
I love to eat. So the first thing I noticed upon arriving in Lahore was the fantastic meat dishes. The meat is always freshly killed and cooked, and I think that has something to with why Pakistani meat dishes are always juicy. Try a seekh kebab in Pakistan and India, and you’ll see the difference straight away, the Pakistani ones are juicier.

Pakistanis are massive meat eaters, they consume 3 times more meat than all of India. So it makes sense that they’re experts in cooking it.

India, on the other hand, knows how to cook vegetables like nobody else in the world. You’ll struggle to find vegetable dishes at restaurants in Pakistan unless it’s breakfast. India’s variety of veg dishes is absolutely endless. Even a meat eater like me has become far less reliant on meat and consumer a lot more vegetables in India.

Language: Urdu & Devanagari Script
Hindi and Urdu are nearly identical languages except they have different scripts. In Pakistan, all you see is Urdu script everywhere whereas India is dominated by Devanagari.

Just looking at a photo from each country you can immediately tell which street is in India and which is in Pakistan.

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Difference between Devanagari (top) and Urdu script in Pakistan. Photos by Wasif Malik andrajkumar1220.
City Design
Walking around Lahore and Islamabad, I found them similar to big Mughal influenced cities in North India like Delhi, Ajmer, and Lucknow. Clearly, South Indian design is nothing like Pakistani, but North India and Pakistan are similar. After all, both areas at one time were ruled by the same rulers. For example, Jama Masjid in Delhi and Badshahi Mosque in Lahore are nearly identical and built by the same emperor.

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Jama Masjid, Delhi. Photo by Peter Rivera.
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Badshahi Mosque, Lahore. Photo © Karl Rock.
People & Hospitality
I found people on the street in Pakistan to be helpful but wary of a foreigner. Overall I found them less warm than Indians. I think this has something to do with their distrust and dislike of America. They probably assume I’m from there.

Usually, a local’s first question to you will be, “Where are you from?” I’d love to know what their reaction would be if I told them, “America.” I’m assuming it’s going to be different from New Zealand which has a cricket team that I found many Pakistani’s complimenting me on.

I find Indians warmer to foreigners in general. There’s no hatred of America there.

When it comes to meeting local friends in Pakistan and India, I found hospitality to be the same. Both my Pakistani and Indian friends show fantastic hospitality and a passion for showing you their country and making sure you are comfortable and enjoying. It was just the common man on the streets in Pakistan I found less warm than India.

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All for me. The spread put on by my friends in Peshawar, Pakistan. Photo © Karl Rock.
Friends & Foes: Pakistan ❤ China
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Arriving in Lahore, I was greeted with the Pakistan-China Friendship Underpass and a massive reef of flowers celebrating the China and Pakistan friendship elsewhere in the city. They even have a China Chowk (street). There’s no doubt about it, Pakistan ❤ China.

In India, you’ll see the same for different countries, but I can’t pinpoint any one country they love, unlike all the tributes to China I saw in Pakistan.

Religion
This one is obvious whether you’ve visited or not. Pakistan is dominated by Islam. Multiple times a day you’ll hear the prayer ceremony broadcast out across the city. You’ll hear the same in Muslim majority areas in India too.

India, on the other hand, is more visibly diverse. In India, you’ll see Churches, Gurudwaras, Hindu temples, Jain temples, and Mosques everywhere.

A Few More Differences
  • There seemed to be less poverty in Pakistan.
  • Very few stray animals in Pakistan.
  • Driving on motorways in Pakistan is much safer because the Police are very strict with fines. If people speed, don’t stay in their lane or don’t use their indicators when changing lanes, they get a fine.
  • There are no liquor stores in Pakistan.
  • More women out and about on the streets in India.
Overall Impression
Pakistan reminds me of walking into a Muslim area of Delhi like West Nizamuddin. You’ve got Urdu, butchers, mosques, and the colour green everywhere. Coming from India, Pakistan is a familiar sight. But the above difference constantly remind you where you are.
 
Adding some fuel to this thread:D

People & Hospitality
I found people on the street in Pakistan to be helpful but wary of a foreigner. Overall I found them less warm than Indians. I think this has something to do with their distrust and dislike of America. They probably assume I’m from there.

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It is because he doesn't stand out he looks just like a local more so in peshawar.If he wears a shalwar kameez and Swati cap it will be very hard to distuginsh him as a foreigner i aint kidding.
 
Whateva

That was a blank shot.

Come visit us when you have any serious sickness, we might get you something for the burn. :enjoy:
Nicely done.

On a separate note, I saw some ignorant persons earlier state that the quality of FMCG products made in Pakistan are superior to Indian products.
In the us, I have purchased and examined both counties products. There is no comparison. Pakistani products are so inferior that these things would not be sold even in rural Indian markets. I am saying this without any bias. There is a difference of night and day.

The only good product that I have seen and use daily is shaan masala.

Seriously, this forum is filled with frogs inside a well, who think they know something about the world outside their well.
 

the last guy... :)
"...Pakistan is a holy place & people go there for pilgrimage ..." ... hahahahahaha


Nicely done.

On a separate note, I saw some ignorant persons earlier state that the quality of FMCG products made in Pakistan are superior to Indian products.
In the us, I have purchased and examined both counties products. There is no comparison. Pakistani products are so inferior that these things would not be sold even in rural Indian markets. I am saying this without any bias. There is a difference of night and day.

The only good product that I have seen and use daily is shaan masala.

Seriously, this forum is filled with frogs inside a well, who think they know something about the world outside their well.

yet all Indian stores in West sell Pakistani products very proudly and for often higher prices.

Some examples (from an indian owned store):

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LU & Peek Freans from Pakistan:

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Let me tell you, I am not a "Khooh Daa Dudd" (= Well's frog) :-) and Pakistani products/foods are better than indian products, overall. It's just that Indian products are more in number of course.

Same India Bazaar whose pics I posted above sells Pakistani mangoes for a higher price and tells their customers that those are Pakistani mangoes...

Probably you have developed a taste for bad food/products, so good quality appears bad to you.
 
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Are Indian products available in "Pakistan Bazzar store / or whatever is alternative" in The U.S and europe ??
 
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