Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments

[Clutch]

The economic war front of the Russia-Ukraine crisis:

 

[Iñigo]

And so the West is a gigantic mental kindergarten of silences, lies and fantasies.

Perhaps what most forges the Western mental bubble is silence

 

[iLION12345_1]

I’ve been following the war rather closely, just haven’t had the time to talk or discuss it much.

In my opinion, the answer is No.

From what I’ve observed so far, this war has been an absolute tactical shit-show from both sides.

On one hand Ukraine did absolutely nothing to seriously prepare for the war despite having so much time as they either thought Putin was bluffing or they simply couldn’t due to the extremely rampant corruption, morale issues and most importantly maintenance and logistics issues plaguing it’s armed forces. When Russia attacked they were caught with their pants down and started mobilizing only after the invasion. So far they have barely used any of their armor or heavy equipment because they just can’t, the moment they try it’ll be decimated because it didn’t prepare in advance, nor have they used any of their doctrine. The entire defensive doctrine right now is just them converging where ever possible and picking off smaller Russian groups (will get to that in a second) through ambushes. The principle weapons have been ATGMs and MANPADS. They barely have any defensive plan. They were in fact caught so badly off guard that they’ve had to arm their civilians before they can mobilize their reserves and entire active army. Even if that’s being portrayed as a mark of bravery, it’s certainly not a mark of competence.


Now coming to the other side, the Russians are arguably doing even worst than the Ukrainians. A 5 year old could have planned a better invasion and offensive than the Russians. Not only are there several reports of morale issues among their forces due to them being lied to about the invasion (many of them apparently didn’t know they were going to war, they were told they were going to exercises in nearby Crimea), there are severe logistical and planning issues with their forces. Their tanks and armored vehicles are quite literally running out of fuel halfway to targets and being abandoned, they have no proper frontline or movement strategy, they’re just roaming about in small groups like they’re here for a picnic and getting picked off. Tanks and armored vehicles are driving on roads with zero cover or situational awareness. They seem to have no proper objective in mind, at least not till the last day or so.

if anyone wants an example of what happens when you make every single possible bad decision in a war. Ukraine and Russia have presented that.

Relating it to your question, I believe that this just isn’t a good example of what an actual war would be, at least not on the Pakistani-Indian front, where both armies are much much more dependent on their doctrines and battle plans and won’t be running around haplessly as the Russians and Ukrainians are (the Russians are literally losing convoys to drones that are harmless against Fighter jets…while also having complete air superiority and much superior AD). Most of these losses are very easily preventable with better planning and doctrine, as well as better inter-services cooperation.
So this likely doesn’t change all that much for battle plans in the PA and IA, if anything our planners are probably going to study how to prevent what’s going on there right now by simply not doing what they did.



I could go into much deeper detail about how either side is doing things wrong. With how big the Russian army is and how incompetent the Ukrainian one is on paper, they should have overran all of Ukraine by now. On the other hand, given how poorly Russian forces have performed, with the size of Ukraines forces, the Russians never should have gotten this far either. Credit where due to the Ukrainian people in this regard, they’ve held out better than expected. However even with the mess-ups, it’s just delaying the inevitable, the Russian forces are starting to regroup and formulate a proper strategy, and even if they don’t, they can just go on longer than the Ukrainians due to resources and manpower, and that’s starting to show. The Russians will win the military part of this war, but likely not much after that. They will not be able to hold Ukraine at all even if they win, and their economy will suffer a lot.

(This is a completely seperate part of the post where I’m just expressing my opinion, don’t relate it to anything above). I also find it funny how half of Ukraines war is being fought by western Media and government PR. Half the western world that didn’t even know Ukraine existed or had anything going on in it less than a month ago is now acting like it has personally been fighting for Ukraine for decades. People that are simply anti-Russian or anti-putin are acting like they’re anti-war humanitarians. They’ve turned Zelensky into some sort of brave war hero, the same one who allows Neo-Nazis in his armed forces with near impunity and sold out his people for votes during the Covid crisis. Imo both the Ukrainian and Russian governments are two sides of the same coin, greedy politicians. They both deserve each other, The only losers here are the Russian and Ukrainian people.

Continuing on; the aftermath of this war is going to be very bad for both countries. On one hand until Russia holds Ukraine, it’ll be basically a puppet state, on the other hand Putin has made a blunder by attacking at this stage, he’s literally made half of Europe (most importantly Germany) increase their defense spending by billions, hence making its own main adversary (NATO) considerably stronger. And that’s after the major economic crisis that will occur in Russia if and when those sanctions fully kick in.

Both sides are telling a lot of lies right now. That’s kinda how modern media-warfare works. I’d suggest seeing both sides of the war to stay updated. Most of the Pro-Ukrainian/western forums or servers I visit seem to be thinking that only the Russians are losing men and equipment, as all the videos of dead Ukrainian soldiers conveniently don’t reach them and anyone talking about how Ukraine doesn’t have clean hands gets banned for being a Russian Shill. On the other hand the Russians are only now starting to realize how many men they’re losing too, there’s already a major anti-war sentiment back in the federation, people are not going to be happy with Putin and the government, and even then, they don’t see a major portion of their losses because of state media.

What happened to the peace talks that were to take place in Belarus? Does anybody have any info?

Nothing came out of it yet. They will hold more talks soon.

 

[coffee_cup]

[...]. No one helped Afghanistan when the US was in Afghanistan. But look at how much help Ukraine is receiving today, from military to commercial. [...].

Gloating about invading countries breaking all the international laws with impunity and that no one can come to their help "when we do it", is simply pathetic and absolutely shameless.

-- And then they wonder why the rest of the world outside the usual Western minions dont give a shyt when chickens come back home to roost !

 

[Messerschmitt]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1499109697105842178

https://twitter.com/x/status/1499108162791739396

https://twitter.com/x/status/1499101309345341440

https://twitter.com/x/status/1499099581518614528

 

[pkuser2k12]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1499108639315050497

 

[Titanium100]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1499109697105842178

https://twitter.com/x/status/1499108162791739396

https://twitter.com/x/status/1499101309345341440

https://twitter.com/x/status/1499099581518614528

Japan's airspace was also violated yesterday by Russia

 

[FuturePAF]

It has been reported that one of Ukraine’s best fighter pilots, Col. Oleksandr Oksanchenko, the Grey Wolf has been shot down and killed over Kyiv at the hands of a Russian S-400 battery. This would be the best time to test weapons against the S-400 in real world conditions (on Ukrainian aircraft of course).

 

[Mujahid Memon]

Comments are lit

 

[Titanium100]

The one country that benefits from this war then any other countries is ''CHINA'' because the US was about to fortify the far east in Japan, South Korea, Guam and Okinawa but due to NATO eastern flank issues the US attention is diverted from the far east for atleast the next decade or half

 

[pkuser2k12]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1499097139221123072

 

[nang2]

The one country that benefits from this war then any other countries is ''CHINA'' because the US was about to fortify the far east in Japan, South Korea, Guam and Okinawa but due to NATO eastern flank issues the US attention is diverted from the far east for atleast the next decade or half

Too early to tell.

 

[NA71]

Russians are now going all out to expand war zones ...multiple countries shouting Air Violations by Russians ....OR it is some move by Europeans ...as pretext...are the trying to engage in air?

 

[Clutch]

Ukraine live TV supposedly filming dead persons in TV killed during the invasion. But during filming one of dead woke up adjusting his /her for conformable posture

Lol..m that's hilarious. Open deception and lies....

 

[Titanium100]

Too early to tell.

The NATO eastern flank issues will linger for some time besides EU feels under geninue threat