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Pakistan may study other fighter options as US asks Pakistan to make full payment for F-16 purchase

This is already happening. The budget US allocates for Pakistan -- civilian and military -- is getting smaller each year, and Congress is adding more restrictions as well.

It is a temporary thing, tomorrow there will be a big reconciliation b/w US and China with Pakistan as the bridge and the aid will flow again. This is what diplomacy is about - exerting pressure and extracting concessions. Countries in the big leagues just fight for show and the ones in middle get totalled.

I say this because it is important to be very careful on how far we go and how much we promise. US is on retreat and trends favour China so it is not unlikely that both of them will come to some sort of power sharing arrangement with US conceding it's interest in Asia and Africa and China giving up it's support of Russia.
 
I think it's the time Pakistan should move from F-16 and get J-10 C which gives almost equal capable to F-16's

With $700 Million Pakistan can get 25 of J-10 :D :D

Time to move SU35..US is simply axing its own foot..Pakistan getting SU35 will have serious consequences for future US policy in the region..
 
Well we need to start evaluating SU35..F16 has reached the age of scrap now!
 
Unfortunately for USA this isn't 1990s when their weapons were the only option for Pakistan.
This episode will dawn the reality upon them that they are trying too hard to appease India while making their own citizens jobless when F*16 production lines will shut down due to lack of orders.
I wonder how Indian lobby who "Successfully " lobbied to stop the deal, will compensate for that.
 
one query...if pak does not has enough funds to buy f16s, how can we buy other planes..aren't they more expensive??
 
one query...if pak does not has enough funds to buy f16s, how can we buy other planes..aren't they more expensive??
We have some money but we dont want to pay full for F16 ,If we have to pay 90 Mil for a single fighter there are more than few options
 
ISLAMABAD: Pakistan has conveyed to the United States that it does not have the money to buy F-16 jets from its resources and has cautioned that if the stalemate over funding is not resolved it may consider buying some other fighter aircraft to meet its needs.

According to a diplomatic source, this was conveyed by Finance Minister Ishaq Dar to US Ambassador David Hale at a meeting at the Foreign Office.

The meeting was held last week before the controversy of procuring the F-16s became public.

Adviser on Foreign Affairs Sartaj Aziz, PAF Chief Air Chief Marshal Sohail Aman and Special Assistant Tariq Fatemi also attended the meeting.

Initially, the deal for the sale of eight F-16s to Pakistan was to be partially funded through the Foreign Military Financing (FMF) with the US providing $430 million, while the remaining $270m was to be paid by Pakistan from its national resources. But after the Congressional hold on subsidising the sale through FMF, the US administration asked Pakistan to make a commitment to buy the jets from its own money.

But the Pakistan government refused to make any pledge unless the restriction on financing through FMF was lifted.

There is a perception in some quarters that the government made a mistake by refusing to make the commitment for the purchase of the fighter aircraft because doing so would not have precluded the option of financing through FMF in future.

The Pakistani commitment, it is believed, would have eased Congressional pressure on the administration, besides allowing the process for approval and appropriation of the entire FMF package to move forward. The process is being currently held back because of the very intense debate on the financing of the F-16 deal.

In view of the lingering impasse, the administration has now started emphasising on the Congress to focus on the package instead of getting stuck with one of its elements.

The FMF money for this year has to be approved and appropriated before September 30 or else the funds would remain no more available.

Adviser on Foreign Affairs Sartaj Aziz, in a media interaction on Tuesday, said Pakistan was working with the “suppliers to see what could be alternative sources of financing”.

Mr Aziz said that Pakistan would only buy the F-16s if some arrangement was worked out “otherwise we will look for some other (fighter) aircraft”.

He, nevertheless, looked optimistic about the issue being resolved and said: “We’ll be able to find some way out”. The message from the adviser looked very calculated.

It should be recalled that Senate Foreign Relations Chairman Bob Corker, whose committee has jurisdiction over foreign arms sales and who is maintaining the hold on the financing of the deal, had while voting in favour of the sale of the jets to Pakistan in March noted that he did not block the deal so that Islamabad is not driven towards Russian- or French-made jets.

Mr Corker had then said that he would like to maintain US leverage over Pakistan, which he described as uncertain ally, through its continued reliance on the US for maintenance of F-16s.

Despite approving the deal, Mr Corker withheld its financial component.

Among the key reasons behind the Congressional hold are concerns that Pakistan has not taken enough action against the Haqqani network; jail sentence for Dr Shakeel Afridi — the physician who had cooperated with the US in tracking Osama bin Laden; and fears about Pakistani nuclear programme.

Published in Dawn, May 4th, 2016

I hope Pakistan sticks to it's guns here.
 
There is already a thread running on this, please post there.
 
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Pakistan has threatened to buy advanced Russian or Chinese combat jets after Washington withdrew financing for a US arms purchase amid a weakening of its strategic relationship with Islamabad.

“If funding is arranged, Pakistan will get the F16,” said Sartaj Aziz, foreign affairs adviser to Nawaz Sharif, the Pakistani prime minister. “Otherwise, we will opt for jets from some other place.”
The Pakistan Air Force is looking at other options including the Russian SU35, the Chinese J10 and the Chinese J20 stealth fighter, according to a senior foreign ministry official.

The US and Pakistan have long had close ties and jointly supported the Taliban rebels who drove Soviet invaders out of Afghanistan in 1989. But the 9/11 terror attacks, masterminded by al-Qaeda from Afghan soil, ushered in a more complex period in which US forces helped overthrow the Taliban regime. The US continues to fight the group’s militants while Pakistan gives them haven.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/49dcfe66-11c6-11e6-839f-2922947098f0.html


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That only means J10.

Being an adult in his right mind I'm pretty aware that the Su35 won't ever be sold by Russia to Pakistan and the J20 isn't matured yet.
 
Pakistan if it were to get the SU-35 would be a game changer and scare me a little but they require a whole new infrastructure, training & weaponry on the other hand plus it would be a big dent in Indo-Russia strategic relations.
 
J-10 is also a light weight fighter Just like JF-17 it is bigger because of that it can carry more flue for long rang fight that is the one of the reason china selected J10 and J10 A can carry 6,000 kg and JF-17 block II can carry 5500 Kg of Useful load if J-10B is in medium class fighter just like F-16 then sure buy it if not then it is not worth have 2 light weight fighters

and as for J-20 or J-31 there are not available to purchase just yet pakistan will buy one of them in next 5 to 10 years

Su-35 is also a good option but they if Pakistan will buy them they will be in few numbers just maybe
 
That only means J10.

Being an adult in his right mind I'm pretty aware that the Su35 won't ever be sold by Russia to Pakistan and the J20 isn't matured yet.
Russian are broke they need money, As long as Pakistan pay cold hard cash, they will sell. I think the only delay in getting SU-35 is type of armament and modification Russian are willing to sell or allow Pakistan to do. J-20 isn't matured, neither do F-35 and Pak Fa but these fighters are still ages ahead of non-stealth platforms.
 

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