Bahrain executes three Shiites in first capital punishment since 2010

[Saif al-Arab]

It was Abdul-Aziz bin Muhammad the second ruler of the First Saudi State and he plundered Karbala with 12,000 Wahabis from Najd.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wahhabi_sack_of_Karbala

Ok. What has this to do with anything and why do you think I care about something that I had nothing to do with and something that occurred 215 years ago and whose accuracy cannot be confirmed?

Why don't you worry about this below which is 1000 times worse?

Methods of converting Iran
Ismail consolidated his rule over the country and launched a thorough and at times brutal campaign to convert the majority Sunni population to Twelver Shiism and thus transform the religious landscape of Iran.[16] His methods of converting Iran included:

• Imposing Shiism as the state and mandatory religion for the whole nation and much forcible conversions of Iranian Sufi Sunnis to Shiism.[17][18][19]
• He reintroduced the Sadr (Arabic, leader) – an office that was responsible for supervising religious institutions and endowments. With a view to transforming Iran into a Shiite state, the Sadr was also assigned the task of disseminating Twelver doctrine.[20]
• He destroyed Sunni mosques. This was even noted by Tomé Pires, the Portuguese ambassador to China who visited Iran in 1511–12, who when referring to Ismail noted: "He (i.e. Ismail) reforms our churches, destroys the houses of all Moors who follow (the Sunnah of) Muhammad…"[21]
• He enforced the ritual and compulsory cursing of the first three Sunni Caliphs (Abu Bakr, Umar, and Uthman) as usurpers, from all mosques, disbanded Sunni Tariqahs and seized their assets, used state patronage to develop Shia shrines, institutions and religious art and imported Shia scholars to replace Sunni scholars.[22][23][24]
• He shed Sunni blood and destroyed and desecrated the graves and mosques of Sunnis. This caused the Ottoman Sultan Bayezid II (who initially congratulated Ismail on his victories) to advise and ask the young monarch (in a “fatherly” manner) to stop the anti-Sunni actions. However, Ismail was strongly anti-Sunni, ignored the Sultan's warning, and continued to spread the Shia faith by the sword.[25][26]
• He persecuted, imprisoned and executed stubbornly resistant Sunnis.[27][28]
• With the establishment of Safavid rule, there was a very raucous and colourful, almost carnival-like holiday on 26 Dhu al-Hijjah (or alternatively, 9 Rabi' al-awwal) celebrating the murder of Caliph Umar. The highlight of the day was making an effigy of Umar to be cursed, insulted, and finally burned. However, as relations between Iran and Sunni countries improved, the holiday was no longer observed (at least officially).[29]
• In 1501 Ismail invited all the Shia living outside Iran to come to Iran and be assured of protection from the Sunni majority.[30]

The early Safavid rulers took a number of steps against the Sunni Ulema of Iran. These steps included giving the Ulema the choice of conversion, death, or exile[31][32][33]and massacring the Sunni clerics who resisted the Shia transformation of Iran, as witnessed in Herat.[34] As a result, many Sunni scholars who refused to adopt the new religious direction lost their lives or fled to the neighboring Sunni states.[35][36]

After conquering Tabriz in Iran, along with Azerbaijan, southern Dagestan, and Armenia from 1500–02,[33] one of the first acts of Ismail was to declare Twelver Shiism to be the state religion, despite the predominance of Sunni Muslims in the newly acquired territories. After the declaration, a conversion campaign was launched[47] and Muslim peoples of the Caucasus, came under heavy pressure to accept Shiism.[48] The imposition of Shiism was especially harsh in Shirvan, where a large Sunni population was massacred.[49] Thus, the population of Azerbaijan was forcibly converted to Shiism in the early 16th century at the same time as the people of what is nowadays Iran, when the Safavids held sway over it.[1] Modern-day Azerbaijan therefore contains the second largest population of Shia Muslims by percentage right after Iran,[2] and the two and Bahrain are the only countries where a majority of the population is, at least nominally, Shia Muslim.

Iraq
See also: Islam in Iraq
Ismail peacefully seized Baghdad in 1508. However, his armies zealously murdered Sunnis and actively persecuted them through tribal allies of the Shah.[50] His armies also destroyed several important Sunni sites, including the tombs of Abū Ḥanīfa and Abdul-Qadir Gilani. The Safavids even expelled the family of Gilani from Mesopotamia. After declaring Shiism the official form of Islam in Iraq, Ismail forced his new Iraqi subjects to convert to Shiism and outlawed Sunni practices. He then returned to Persia. These draconian actions by the conquering Safavids caused the Mesopotamian Sunnis to seethe with resentment.[51]


Iraq Map
Likewise, under Tahmasp I, central and southern Iraq, including Baghdad and Basra had remained in Safavid hands and efforts were being made to establish Shiism in place of Sunnism in these lands. Sunni scholars who refused to accept Shia doctrines were executed and Sunni tombs and shrines were destroyed once again, while the main mosques were converted for Shia use only. While not extensive, some conversions did take place, and those remaining faithful to Sunnism were subjected to persecution until Suleiman the Magnificent expelled the Safavids from most of Iraq.[52]

When the Safavids returned in 1624 under the rule of Abbas I of Persia and reconquered Baghdad, they once more again massacred the Sunni inhabitants.[53]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safavid_conversion_of_Iran_to_Shia_Islam

Talk about comparing apples and oranges.

Anyway Safavids are admired by almost every Iranian while only a tiny minority of Saudi Arabians and Arabs support that raid. Safavids mass-murdered 1000' times more Muslims and destroyed many more historical sites than any Najdis did 300-200 years ago.

Anyway nobody cares about such discussions. Just showing you a bigger mirror after you started writing nonsense.

Yes that way it would work.

But as you said, lately other platforms are taking over such as Twitter and Reddit. Forums/bulletin boards are actually a very outdated technology concept wise. Launching such a forum is easy, having studied comp science i know the entire process but it'll take too much time to have it grow and that uncertain in this day and age where other platforms took over. Why would they trade Twitter for a forum? This forum existed since 2005 or 2006 when there weren't many alternatives to forums, hard to compare to a startup. Bad idea if you ask me.

You are right. However what if you interacted a new forum of the nature I mentioned with Twitter/Reddit/Facebook directly? Would that work?

Anyway I think that it could work with the right setup and advertisement but not sure if the energy/money/time spent on it would be worth it. In any case I won't be the one who creates such a forum if it does not exist already.

Anyway the problem with Twitter is that it is a rather superficial media. Not a place for detailed discussion. Reddit is better on that front.

 

[Asghar1234]

There was no Saudi Arabia in 1802 or any "Saudi Arabians". There were Arabs and various Arab tribes and more specifically a very limited number of raiders. The people who were attacked were themselves doing the same earlier and later and belonged to the same tribes. Such wars/conflicts were common all across the region.

None of those people had anything to do with 90% of all regions of modern-day KSA. Zero from Hijaz, zero from Eastern Province (Eastern Arabia), zero from the South, zero from East and West. Only a limited number of Arabs inhabiting an area from Najd to Northern Iraq and Eastern Syria. Today the same people live in those regions.

Karbala/Najaf was attacked several times by many powers btw, including Safavids.

Raised a few shrines. The graves still exist. Done by a couple of people and mostly against the will of locals.

Moronic logic considering the fact that Safavids in Iran alone did 1000 times worse things against locals and others in the region.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safavid_conversion_of_Iran_to_Shia_Islam

Anyway all those people that you have mentioned are from Hijaz.



That is a nice joke. The most disliked Muslim country in the Muslim world as per all surveys and actual relations between regimes, is Iran by far. In fact only Pakistanis have a mostly positive view of you as per surveys. You have such good relations indeed that most Arab countries have no relations with you. From Morocco to Egypt. Indonesia and Malaysia bans people from converting to Shia Islam and spreading Shia Islam etc. The list is very long.

Anyway stop obsessing about Arab affairs and worry about your own country. We do not care about your blabbering.

What I know as a crystal clear fact is Indonesia and many Islamic countries ban Saudi textbooks.

http://www.scoopnest.com/user/LegatumInst/581170119751151617

Plus Inonesia always have been one of Iran's stragic partners.

 

[BHarwana]

Imran Hosein was born on the Caribbean island of Trinidad in 1942 from parents whose ancestors had migrated as indentured labourers from India. He worked for several years as a Foreign Service Officer in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Government of Trinidad and Tobago. He served as Principal of the Aleemiyah Institute of Islamic Studies in Karachi as well as Imam at Masjid Dar al-Qur'an in Long Island, New York. He also led the weekly Jumu'ah prayers and delivered the sermon at the United Nations headquarters in Manhattan once a month for ten years continuously.[4]

He has traveled continuously and extensively around the world on Islamic lecture tours since graduating from the Aleemiyah Institute of Islamic Studies in 1971 at age 29, and he has also written more than a dozen books on Islam

 

[Asghar1234]

Its not Shia Sunni conflict ....Don t go in detail, its war . Holy Prophet PBUH and progeny vs Abu sufian clan. This war will continue in different shapes till the end of time. Look around slowly all landmarks belong to Holy Prophet and his family been demolish in the name of extension. Nothing is preserve for coming generations in the name of bidat. Sometime I miss Turkish Ottoman empire they were people of good taste and preserve the Islamic history.

Couldn't say better. It's Muslim war against Sufiyanis (enemies of prophet and his household)...

Ok. What has this to do with anything and why do you think I care about something that I had nothing to do with and something that occurred 215 years ago and whose accuracy cannot be confirmed?

Why don't you worry about this below which is 1000 times worse?

Methods of converting Iran
Ismail consolidated his rule over the country and launched a thorough and at times brutal campaign to convert the majority Sunni population to Twelver Shiism and thus transform the religious landscape of Iran.[16] His methods of converting Iran included:

• Imposing Shiism as the state and mandatory religion for the whole nation and much forcible conversions of Iranian Sufi Sunnis to Shiism.[17][18][19]
• He reintroduced the Sadr (Arabic, leader) – an office that was responsible for supervising religious institutions and endowments. With a view to transforming Iran into a Shiite state, the Sadr was also assigned the task of disseminating Twelver doctrine.[20]
• He destroyed Sunni mosques. This was even noted by Tomé Pires, the Portuguese ambassador to China who visited Iran in 1511–12, who when referring to Ismail noted: "He (i.e. Ismail) reforms our churches, destroys the houses of all Moors who follow (the Sunnah of) Muhammad…"[21]
• He enforced the ritual and compulsory cursing of the first three Sunni Caliphs (Abu Bakr, Umar, and Uthman) as usurpers, from all mosques, disbanded Sunni Tariqahs and seized their assets, used state patronage to develop Shia shrines, institutions and religious art and imported Shia scholars to replace Sunni scholars.[22][23][24]
• He shed Sunni blood and destroyed and desecrated the graves and mosques of Sunnis. This caused the Ottoman Sultan Bayezid II (who initially congratulated Ismail on his victories) to advise and ask the young monarch (in a “fatherly” manner) to stop the anti-Sunni actions. However, Ismail was strongly anti-Sunni, ignored the Sultan's warning, and continued to spread the Shia faith by the sword.[25][26]
• He persecuted, imprisoned and executed stubbornly resistant Sunnis.[27][28]
• With the establishment of Safavid rule, there was a very raucous and colourful, almost carnival-like holiday on 26 Dhu al-Hijjah (or alternatively, 9 Rabi' al-awwal) celebrating the murder of Caliph Umar. The highlight of the day was making an effigy of Umar to be cursed, insulted, and finally burned. However, as relations between Iran and Sunni countries improved, the holiday was no longer observed (at least officially).[29]
• In 1501 Ismail invited all the Shia living outside Iran to come to Iran and be assured of protection from the Sunni majority.[30]

The early Safavid rulers took a number of steps against the Sunni Ulema of Iran. These steps included giving the Ulema the choice of conversion, death, or exile[31][32][33]and massacring the Sunni clerics who resisted the Shia transformation of Iran, as witnessed in Herat.[34] As a result, many Sunni scholars who refused to adopt the new religious direction lost their lives or fled to the neighboring Sunni states.[35][36]

After conquering Tabriz in Iran, along with Azerbaijan, southern Dagestan, and Armenia from 1500–02,[33] one of the first acts of Ismail was to declare Twelver Shiism to be the state religion, despite the predominance of Sunni Muslims in the newly acquired territories. After the declaration, a conversion campaign was launched[47] and Muslim peoples of the Caucasus, came under heavy pressure to accept Shiism.[48] The imposition of Shiism was especially harsh in Shirvan, where a large Sunni population was massacred.[49] Thus, the population of Azerbaijan was forcibly converted to Shiism in the early 16th century at the same time as the people of what is nowadays Iran, when the Safavids held sway over it.[1] Modern-day Azerbaijan therefore contains the second largest population of Shia Muslims by percentage right after Iran,[2] and the two and Bahrain are the only countries where a majority of the population is, at least nominally, Shia Muslim.

Iraq
See also: Islam in Iraq
Ismail peacefully seized Baghdad in 1508. However, his armies zealously murdered Sunnis and actively persecuted them through tribal allies of the Shah.[50] His armies also destroyed several important Sunni sites, including the tombs of Abū Ḥanīfa and Abdul-Qadir Gilani. The Safavids even expelled the family of Gilani from Mesopotamia. After declaring Shiism the official form of Islam in Iraq, Ismail forced his new Iraqi subjects to convert to Shiism and outlawed Sunni practices. He then returned to Persia. These draconian actions by the conquering Safavids caused the Mesopotamian Sunnis to seethe with resentment.[51]


Iraq Map
Likewise, under Tahmasp I, central and southern Iraq, including Baghdad and Basra had remained in Safavid hands and efforts were being made to establish Shiism in place of Sunnism in these lands. Sunni scholars who refused to accept Shia doctrines were executed and Sunni tombs and shrines were destroyed once again, while the main mosques were converted for Shia use only. While not extensive, some conversions did take place, and those remaining faithful to Sunnism were subjected to persecution until Suleiman the Magnificent expelled the Safavids from most of Iraq.[52]

When the Safavids returned in 1624 under the rule of Abbas I of Persia and reconquered Baghdad, they once more again massacred the Sunni inhabitants.[53]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safavid_conversion_of_Iran_to_Shia_Islam

Talk about comparing apples and oranges.

Anyway Safavids are admired by almost every Iranian while only a tiny minority of Saudi Arabians and Arabs support that raid. Safavids mass-murdered 1000' times more Muslims and destroyed many more historical sites than any Najdis did 300-200 years ago.

Anyway nobody cares about such discussions. Just showing you a bigger mirror after you started writing nonsense.



You are right. However what if you interacted a new forum of the nature I mentioned with Twitter/Reddit/Facebook directly? Would that work?

Anyway I think that it could work with the right setup and advertisement but not sure if the energy/money/time spent on it would be worth it. In any case I won't be the one who creates such a forum if it does not exist already.

Anyway the problem with Twitter is that it is a rather superficial media. Not a place for detailed discussion. Reddit is better on that front.

Bullcraps written by Wahabis. Meanwhile the first Iranian empire after Islam was Shia as well as the first empire in Egypt.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buyid_dynasty

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatimid_Caliphate

 

[Saif al-Arab]

Couldn't say better. It's Muslim war against Sufiyanis...


Bullcrap written by Wahabis. Meanwhile the first Iranian empire after Islam was Shia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buyid_dynasty

Of course and Iran is stronger than the US.

Anyway non-Arabs like you should not meddle in internal Arab affairs. Worry about your own affairs.

Bahrain will never turn into a Wilayat al-Faqih hellhole. Rest assured.

Fatimids were Shia Hijazis. Nothing to do with Iran or this discussion.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatimid_Caliphate

and they were Ismailis. Today the only Ismaili community of a sizable size in the Middle East is found in Najran Province in KSA.

 

[BHarwana]

During World War I, the British government established diplomatic relations with Ibn Saud. The British agent, Captain William Shakespear, was well received by the Bedouin.[15] Similar diplomatic missions were established with any Arabian power who might have been able to unify and stabilize the region. The British entered into a treaty in December 1915 (the "Treaty of Darin") which made the lands of the House of Saud a British protectorate and attempted to define the boundaries of the developing Saudi state.[16] In exchange, Ibn Saud pledged to again make war against Ibn Rashid, who was an ally of the Ottomans.

The British Foreign Office had previously begun to support Sharif Hussein bin Ali, Emir of the Hejaz by sending T.E. Lawrence (a.k.a. Lawrence of Arabia) to him in 1915. The Saudi Ikhwan began to conflict with Hussein, Sharif of Mecca also in 1917 just as his sons Abdullah and Faisal entered Damascus. The Treaty of Darin remained in effect until superseded by the Jeddah conference of 1927 and the Dammam conference of 1952 during both of which Ibn Saud extended his boundaries past the Anglo-Ottoman Blue Line. After Darin, he stockpiled the weapons and supplies which the British provided him, including a 'tribute' of £5,000 per month.[17] After World War I, he received further support from the British, including a glut of surplus munitions. He launched his campaign against the Al Rashidi in 1920; by 1922 they had been all but destroyed.

The defeat of the Al Rashidi doubled the size of Saudi territory because after the war of Ha'il, Ibn Saud sent his army to occupy Al-Jouf and the army led by Eqab bin Mohaya, the head of Talhah tribe. This allowed Ibn Saud the leverage to negotiate a new and more favorable treaty with the British. Their treaty, signed at Uqair in 1922, where he met Percy Cox, British High Commissioner in Iraq, to draw boundaries[18] saw Britain recognize many of his territorial gains. In exchange, Ibn Saud agreed to recognize British territories in the area, particularly along the Persian Gulf coast and in Iraq. The former of these were vital to the British, as merchant traffic between British India and United Kingdom depended upon coaling stations on the approach to the Suez Canal.

In 1925, the forces of Ibn Saud captured the holy city of Mecca from Sharif Hussein, ending 700 years of Hashemite rule. On 8 January 1926, the leading figures in Mecca, Madina and Jeddah proclaimed Ibn Saud the King of Hejaz.[19] On 20 May 1927, the British government signed the Treaty of Jeddah, which abolished the Darin protection agreement and recognized the independence of the Hejaz and Najd with Ibn Saud as its ruler.

With international recognition and support, Ibn Saud continued to consolidate his power. By 1928, his forces had overrun most of the central Arabian Peninsula. However, the alliance between the Ikhwan and the Al Saud collapsed when Ibn Saud forbade further raiding. The few portions of central Arabia not under Saudi control had treaties with London. This did not sit well with the Ikwhan, who had been taught that all non-Wahhabis were infidels. Tensions finally boiled over when the Ikwhan rebelled in 1927. After two years of fighting, they were suppressed by Ibn Saud in the Battle of Sabilla in March 1929.

On 23 September 1932, Ibn Saud united his dominions into the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, with himself as its king.[20] He transferred his court to Murabba Palace from the Masmak Fort in 1938[21] and the palace remained his residence and the seat of government until his death in 1953.[22]

Ibn Saud had to first eliminate the right of his own father in order to rule, and then distance and contain the ambitions of his five brothers, particularly his oldest brother, Muhammad, who fought with him during the battles and conquests that had given birth to the state.[23]

 

[SALMAN F]

Ok. What has this to do with anything and why do you think I care about something that I had nothing to do with and something that occurred 215 years ago and whose accuracy cannot be confirmed?

Why don't you worry about this below which is 1000 times worse?

Methods of converting Iran
Ismail consolidated his rule over the country and launched a thorough and at times brutal campaign to convert the majority Sunni population to Twelver Shiism and thus transform the religious landscape of Iran.[16] His methods of converting Iran included:

• Imposing Shiism as the state and mandatory religion for the whole nation and much forcible conversions of Iranian Sufi Sunnis to Shiism.[17][18][19]
• He reintroduced the Sadr (Arabic, leader) – an office that was responsible for supervising religious institutions and endowments. With a view to transforming Iran into a Shiite state, the Sadr was also assigned the task of disseminating Twelver doctrine.[20]
• He destroyed Sunni mosques. This was even noted by Tomé Pires, the Portuguese ambassador to China who visited Iran in 1511–12, who when referring to Ismail noted: "He (i.e. Ismail) reforms our churches, destroys the houses of all Moors who follow (the Sunnah of) Muhammad…"[21]
• He enforced the ritual and compulsory cursing of the first three Sunni Caliphs (Abu Bakr, Umar, and Uthman) as usurpers, from all mosques, disbanded Sunni Tariqahs and seized their assets, used state patronage to develop Shia shrines, institutions and religious art and imported Shia scholars to replace Sunni scholars.[22][23][24]
• He shed Sunni blood and destroyed and desecrated the graves and mosques of Sunnis. This caused the Ottoman Sultan Bayezid II (who initially congratulated Ismail on his victories) to advise and ask the young monarch (in a “fatherly” manner) to stop the anti-Sunni actions. However, Ismail was strongly anti-Sunni, ignored the Sultan's warning, and continued to spread the Shia faith by the sword.[25][26]
• He persecuted, imprisoned and executed stubbornly resistant Sunnis.[27][28]
• With the establishment of Safavid rule, there was a very raucous and colourful, almost carnival-like holiday on 26 Dhu al-Hijjah (or alternatively, 9 Rabi' al-awwal) celebrating the murder of Caliph Umar. The highlight of the day was making an effigy of Umar to be cursed, insulted, and finally burned. However, as relations between Iran and Sunni countries improved, the holiday was no longer observed (at least officially).[29]
• In 1501 Ismail invited all the Shia living outside Iran to come to Iran and be assured of protection from the Sunni majority.[30]

The early Safavid rulers took a number of steps against the Sunni Ulema of Iran. These steps included giving the Ulema the choice of conversion, death, or exile[31][32][33]and massacring the Sunni clerics who resisted the Shia transformation of Iran, as witnessed in Herat.[34] As a result, many Sunni scholars who refused to adopt the new religious direction lost their lives or fled to the neighboring Sunni states.[35][36]

After conquering Tabriz in Iran, along with Azerbaijan, southern Dagestan, and Armenia from 1500–02,[33] one of the first acts of Ismail was to declare Twelver Shiism to be the state religion, despite the predominance of Sunni Muslims in the newly acquired territories. After the declaration, a conversion campaign was launched[47] and Muslim peoples of the Caucasus, came under heavy pressure to accept Shiism.[48] The imposition of Shiism was especially harsh in Shirvan, where a large Sunni population was massacred.[49] Thus, the population of Azerbaijan was forcibly converted to Shiism in the early 16th century at the same time as the people of what is nowadays Iran, when the Safavids held sway over it.[1] Modern-day Azerbaijan therefore contains the second largest population of Shia Muslims by percentage right after Iran,[2] and the two and Bahrain are the only countries where a majority of the population is, at least nominally, Shia Muslim.

Iraq
See also: Islam in Iraq
Ismail peacefully seized Baghdad in 1508. However, his armies zealously murdered Sunnis and actively persecuted them through tribal allies of the Shah.[50] His armies also destroyed several important Sunni sites, including the tombs of Abū Ḥanīfa and Abdul-Qadir Gilani. The Safavids even expelled the family of Gilani from Mesopotamia. After declaring Shiism the official form of Islam in Iraq, Ismail forced his new Iraqi subjects to convert to Shiism and outlawed Sunni practices. He then returned to Persia. These draconian actions by the conquering Safavids caused the Mesopotamian Sunnis to seethe with resentment.[51]


Iraq Map
Likewise, under Tahmasp I, central and southern Iraq, including Baghdad and Basra had remained in Safavid hands and efforts were being made to establish Shiism in place of Sunnism in these lands. Sunni scholars who refused to accept Shia doctrines were executed and Sunni tombs and shrines were destroyed once again, while the main mosques were converted for Shia use only. While not extensive, some conversions did take place, and those remaining faithful to Sunnism were subjected to persecution until Suleiman the Magnificent expelled the Safavids from most of Iraq.[52]

When the Safavids returned in 1624 under the rule of Abbas I of Persia and reconquered Baghdad, they once more again massacred the Sunni inhabitants.[53]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safavid_conversion_of_Iran_to_Shia_Islam

Talk about comparing apples and oranges.

Anyway Safavids are admired by almost every Iranian while only a tiny minority of Saudi Arabians and Arabs support that raid. Safavids mass-murdered 1000' times more Muslims and destroyed many more historical sites than any Najdis did 300-200 years ago.

Anyway nobody cares about such discussions. Just showing you a bigger mirror after you started writing nonsense.



You are right. However what if you interacted a new forum of the nature I mentioned with Twitter/Reddit/Facebook directly? Would that work?

Anyway I think that it could work with the right setup and advertisement but not sure if the energy/money/time spent on it would be worth it. In any case I won't be the one who creates such a forum if it does not exist already.

Anyway the problem with Twitter is that it is a rather superficial media. Not a place for detailed discussion. Reddit is better on that front.

The saudi trying to justy the crimes of bin saud and forceful salafi conversation by bringing the Safavids to the discussion

Ibn saud and ismail were the same no deferent between them stop acting like the so called moderate muslims who justify terrorism instead of finding selutions

 

[Saif al-Arab]

The saudi trying to justy the crimes of bin saud and forceful salafi conversation by bringing the Safavids to the discussion

Ibn saud and ismail were the same no deferent between them stop acting like the so called moderate muslims who justify terrorism instead of finding selutions

The difference here is that I have never supported such a raid, if it even occurred as described, nor did I mention old history even once.

Find a post of mine were I justify it. If you can do that you can bark. Otherwise not.

You cannot expect me not to react when an non-Arab troll meddles in internal Arab affairs and writes nonsense and throws stones while living in a 1000 times bigger glasshouse.

Saud crimes and Safavid crimes cannot be compared. Safavi crimes were 1000 times more brutal, widespread and worse.

As for solutions, that's not my business or problem. That is for Al-Khalifa and Bahrainis to figure out and nobody else.

 

[Al-zakir]

This is Iran's leader house in Mashhad:

If not for anything else, I always have respect for Iranian leadership for simplicity.

 

[SALMAN F]

The difference here is that I have never supported such a raid, if it even occurred as described, nor did I mention old history even once.

Find a post of mine were I justify it. If you can do that you can bark. Otherwise not.

You cannot expect me not to react when an non-Arab troll meddles in internal Arab affairs and writes nonsense and throws stones while living in a 1000 times bigger glasshouse.

Saud crimes and Safavid crimes cannot be compared. Safavi crimes were 1000 times more brutal, widespread and worse.

As for solutions, that's not my business or problem. That is for Al-Khalifa and Bahrainis to figure out and nobody else.

Crimes still crimes what the difference between the one who killed 5000 vs the one who killed 10000??!!

 

[Saif al-Arab]

Crimes still crimes what the difference between the one who killed 5000 vs the one who killed 10000??!!

The difference is that a mass serial killer is in no position to criticize or lecture a murderer.

Let me repeat myself once again.

I don't support either policy nor have I anything to do with historical events that occurred 10-15 generations ago.

Useless discussion and thread.

 

[HAIDER]

Is there any thing called Internal Arab affair , then why majority of security staff of Bahrain is Pakistani from Police to army.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

Is there any thing called Internal Arab affair , then why majority of security staff of Bahrain is Pakistani from Police to army.

Einstein would envy your logic.

As for your claim, which I doubt, those are not citizens as far as I am aware. You could call them mercenaries. Nor have they become Arabs overnight.

Some Iranian of whatever ethnicity sitting behind his computer somewhere in Iran (in some poor apartment bloc in Tehran most likely) and writing nonsense about internal GCC/Arab affairs, is as important as an Papuan talking about Hijazi fish dishes.

Sorry to burst your bubble but whenever foreigners talk about internal Saudi Arabian or GCC affairs, I begin to laugh.

 

[HAIDER]

Einstein would envy your logic.

As for your claim, which I doubt, those are not citizens as far as I am aware. You could call them mercenaries.

Don't doubt , KSA govt requested Gen Kiyani to provide soldiers for Bahrain army. He played dirty trick to provide army to Bahrain govt. First he retired the soldiers and later send them has for policing quota .

 

[BATMAN]

Don't doubt , KSA govt requested Gen Kiyani to provide soldiers for Bahrain army. He played dirty trick to provide army to Bahrain govt. First he retired the soldiers and later send them has for policing quota .

No those job advertisments were in local news no private request was involved.
There was too much BS propaganda, and Bahrain govt. withdraw its offer on request of Zardari regime.