Kashmir freedom fighters should be addressed adequately

[waz]

Agreed

Yes, and you are currently being lured into a trap, by us pro-Indian moderators. There is no pleasing some people....

 

[Carbonated]

We are with the protestors of course.



They can't use that anyway.

Just a single announcement from the mods to forbid Indian to use above terms. Militant is quite an appropriate term.

 

[MastanKhan]

Hi,

@WebMaster, @Oscar, @Irfan Baloch @Manticore @araz

This name calling of the freedom fighters need to be stopped on Pakistan Defense Forum---.

The Kashmiris are not terrorists---they are freedom fighters---.

This drama was started by the united states by calling all freedom fighters as terrorists.

If the U S congressman Rohrabacher can openly support paid Baloch terrorists as freedom fighters---then I can and I will support kashmiri fighters as freedom fighters morally---.

The U S sanctions need to be challenged. The american military has murdered enough muslims over the death of 3000 americans in the world traded center since 9/11.

A murder and slaughter of over 4 million muslims by the U S military directly or indirectly thru their proxies or lackeys---over 20 + muslims displaced from their homes---homeless---girls and women raped boys and men molested----enough is enough---. We must have a voice to stop this monstrosity.

 

[Carbonated]

Hi,

@WebMaster, @Oscar, @Irfan Baloch @Manticore @araz

This name calling of the freedom fighters need to be stopped on Pakistan Defense Forum---.

The Kashmiris are not terrorists---they are freedom fighters---.

This drama was started by the united states by calling all freedom fighters as terrorists.

If the U S congressman Rohrabacher can openly support paid Baloch terrorists as freedom fighters---then I can and I will support kashmiri fighters as freedom fighters morally---.

The U S sanctions need to be challenged. The american military has murdered enough muslims over the death of 3000 americans in the world traded center since 9/11.

A murder and slaughter of over 4 million muslims by the U S military directly or indirectly thru their proxies or lackeys---over 20 + muslims displaced from their homes---homeless---girls and women raped boys and men molested----enough is enough---. We must have a voice to stop this monstrosity.

Very well said, I solute you for this.

@waz
We should stop pleasing India and Indians they openly started to support terrorism inside Pakistan and claims that they attack inside Pakistan and will support BLA, BRA.
Kuch tu ghairat honi chahiye...
They should be responded in a same manner.

 

[Basel]

Too many Indian bloggers on PDF are referring to these oppressed yet brave fellows as scumbag etc and other derogatory terms, they can easily use the word militant etc instead of vulgar schoolyard terms.Kudos
@The Sandman @Moonlight @Jonah Arthur @PaklovesTurkiye @Zibago @Carbonated

Indian members should be dealt with iron hand if they are non respective, abusive or disobey PDF rules. This is not their Bharat Rakshak or Defence Forum India where biased mods allow all kind of stuff against Pakistan and don't allow Pakistani members to answer properly.

@mods @waz @Oscar @Irfan Baloch @Horus @WebMaster

 

[Carbonated]

Just look at the kids who were being blinded by chanting Pakistan Zindabaad

 

[django]

Indian members should be dealt with iron hand if they are non respective, abusive or disobey PDF rules. This is not their Bharat Rakshak or Defence Forum India where biased mods allow all kind of stuff against Pakistan and don't allow Pakistani members to answer properly.

@mods @waz @Oscar @Irfan Baloch @Horus @WebMaster

In other words Bharat Rakshak has Arnab Goswami as the chief mod lol.Kudos

 

[M. Sarmad]

Yes, and you are currently being lured into a trap, by us pro-Indian moderators. There is no pleasing some people....

Pakistani members are given negative ratings for stating the simple fact that Indian Army has been using rape as an organized war tactic in Kashmir. Indian Members routinely insult Kashmiris and their freedom struggle and get away with it. This website is helping Indians spread their false propaganda. I have raised this matter with the management before But to no avail. Yes, the PDF Management is pro Indian. And I have no doubt about that.

 

[MastanKhan]

At present we only have the rule for the armed forces of nations. We do enforce it when idiotic posters call for the deaths of Kashmiri civilians, such posters don't last here.
As for armed groups fighting for a cause, where do you stop? We are an international forum, and it could create issues. What happens when a Kurdish poster, of which there are a few demand the same respect from us when a Turkish poster abuses the PKK or YPG?

Sir,

This primarily a pakistani forum----. International issues and sections are a complimentary part of the forum---.

 

[MilSpec]

"Kashmiri Freedom Fighters deserves respect and recognition from Pakistan and PDF" title of thread
put my above message below and tag moderators and admins.
thank you and regards.

Source is @Carbonated
@WAJsal @waz @Arsalan @Kaptaan

Dear Pakistani members I have a request for you and to moderators of this forum also.
Since we support Kashmiri freedom struggle and consider Kashmiri fighters as a freedom fighters since they are fighting the independence war since DOGRA Raj and since 1947 they are fighting against Indian regime. In short I cam across Indian members posts in which they are calling them Swine, Pigs and other nonsense abuses, I want that PDF should make policy towards Kashmiri fighter that Indian members should address them if they like on Militants or Kashmiri fighters. I feed sad when shuhda was called by Indians as pigs and swine.

Too many Indian bloggers on PDF are referring to these oppressed yet brave fellows as scumbag etc and other derogatory terms, they can easily use the word militant etc instead of vulgar schoolyard terms.Kudos
@The Sandman @Moonlight @Jonah Arthur @PaklovesTurkiye @Zibago @Carbonated

@Windjammer @Doordie @I S I @MastanKhan @DESERT FIGHTER

Instead of calling names Indian members should have options like
Militants or Kashmiri Fighters but they should not be allowed to give Kashmiri Shuhda and fighters abuses. Like Pigs, Swine, Rot in Hell, should be buried in Pigs skin sent them to 72 etc etc

You should first blame Pakistan Government as they habitually label your freedom fighters as terrorists.
Pathankot attackers>so called freedom fighters > were condemned as terrorists by Government of Pakistan:

Six IAF men killed as gunmen storm Indian air force base, Pakistan condemns attack
http://www.dawn.com/news/1230278



Mumbai attackers> So called freedom fighters > again were condemned by Givernment of Pakistan as "terrorists"

PM Gilani denounces Mumbai attacks
https://web.archive.org/web/20081201145846/http://thenews.com.pk/updates.asp?id=61064


What a quagmire...

 

[SQ8]

Hi,

@WebMaster, @Oscar, @Irfan Baloch @Manticore @araz

This name calling of the freedom fighters need to be stopped on Pakistan Defense Forum---.

The Kashmiris are not terrorists---they are freedom fighters---.

This drama was started by the united states by calling all freedom fighters as terrorists.

If the U S congressman Rohrabacher can openly support paid Baloch terrorists as freedom fighters---then I can and I will support kashmiri fighters as freedom fighters morally---.

The U S sanctions need to be challenged. The american military has murdered enough muslims over the death of 3000 americans in the world traded center since 9/11.

A murder and slaughter of over 4 million muslims by the U S military directly or indirectly thru their proxies or lackeys---over 20 + muslims displaced from their homes---homeless---girls and women raped boys and men molested----enough is enough---. We must have a voice to stop this monstrosity.

I have reiterated that this is at the end a PAKISTANI forum, and our stances must reflect it without compromise. Many members from other countries will try to pass snide remarks as saying this is an "international platform" but they tend to confuse international members with the prime focus of this forum:

"Promote Pakistani interests".

For all intents and purposes, report any attempts to label the deaths of Kashmiris as a joyous occasion or otherwise. ESPECIALLY IN THE INDIAN SECTION Since they seem to think it is their backyard tea house.

We will also continue to discourage ANY insult to uniformed personnel of any country, but as such; Those fighters within Kashmiri territories are fighting for their rights and self determination and any attempt to use insults or religious flames will result in a hard response.

In addition, any attempt to try and subvert this by using similar terms of any Pakistani based group claiming the same will not be tolerated; they are either insurgents,miscreants or terrorists to us until our government states otherwise. This is a Pakistani forum for a Pakistani viewpoint , we welcome discussion but have no place for negative and damaging propaganda as all searches link back to us. This means that those searches linking back to us MUST represent a Pakistani viewpoint and nothing more.

Please report any digressions to this - The best Pakistani members can do is to report with abandon any violations; HELP the moderation team by patrolling Indian Defence sections and any other sections you suspect such violations.

@Horus

You should first blame Pakistan Government as they habitually label your freedom fighters as terrorists.
Pathankot attackers>so called freedom fighters > were condemned as terrorists by Government of Pakistan:

Six IAF men killed as gunmen storm Indian air force base, Pakistan condemns attack
http://www.dawn.com/news/1230278



Mumbai attackers> So called freedom fighters > again were condemned by Givernment of Pakistan as "terrorists"

PM Gilani denounces Mumbai attacks
https://web.archive.org/web/20081201145846/http://thenews.com.pk/updates.asp?id=61064


What a quagmire...

If the government takes a stance, it is to be reflected here. For all intents and purposes, attacks claimed by Kashmiri Freedom fighters are legitimate until the GoP deems it otherwise.

 

[SQ8]

Indian members should be dealt with iron hand if they are non respective, abusive or disobey PDF rules. This is not their Bharat Rakshak or Defence Forum India where biased mods allow all kind of stuff against Pakistan and don't allow Pakistani members to answer properly.

@mods @waz @Oscar @Irfan Baloch @Horus @WebMaster

As mentioned, report and assist in monitoring by keeping an eye on activities. Engaging them is worse than reporting them and ignoring any posts they make. Remember, their entire influence is based upon replies and tagging. If you do not respond but keep an eye on their posts and report; they will not be successful at either trolling or derailing.

 

[MastanKhan]

I have reiterated this this is at the end a PAKISTANI forum, and our stances must reflect it without compromise. Many members from other countries will try to pass snide remarks as saying this is an "international platform" but they tend to confuse international members with the prime focus of this forum:

"Promote Pakistani interests".

For all intents and purposes, report any attempts to label the deaths of Kashmiris as a joyous occasion or otherwise. ESPECIALLY IN THE INDIAN SECTION Since they seem to think it is their backyard tea house.

We will also continue to discourage ANY insult to uniformed personnel of any country, but as such; Those fighters within Kashmiri territories are fighting for their rights and self determination and any attempt to use insults or religious flames will result in a hard response.

In addition, any attempt to try and subvert this by using similar terms of any Pakistani based group claiming the same will not be tolerated; they are either insurgents,miscreants or terrorists to us until our government states otherwise. This is a Pakistani forum for a Pakistani viewpoint , we welcome discussion but have no place for negative and damaging propaganda as all searches link back to us. This means that those searches linking back to us MUST represent a Pakistani viewpoint and nothing more.

Please report any digressions to this - The best Pakistani members can do is to report with abandon any violations; HELP the moderation team by patrolling Indian Defence sections and any other sections you suspect such violations.

@Horus



If the government takes a stance, it is to be reflected here. For all intents and purposes, attacks claimed by Kashmiri Freedom fighters are legitimate until the GoP deems it otherwise.

Thank you.

 

[waz]

Sir,

This primarily a pakistani forum----. International issues and sections are a complimentary part of the forum---.

Khan bhai I appreciate what you are saying but that still doesn't detract from the fact that the forum is viewed in many different countries, and what were initially smaller sections have now morphed into their own forums.

 

[Carbonated]

@Oscar
Sir I just needs to clarify one thing once more If an Indian or any member used term for Kashmiri Fighters like Pigs, Swine or sent to 72 etc etc can we report to moderators, If Yes then I have a request why not issue a general warning to all Indian members to avoid using such words which even hurts our religious feelings like sent to 72 virgins.

 

[waz]

Pakistani members are given negative ratings for stating the simple fact that Indian Army has been using rape as an organized war tactic in Kashmir. Indian Members routinely insult Kashmiris and their freedom struggle and get away with it. This website is helping Indians spread their false propaganda. I have raised this matter with the management before But to no avail. Yes, the PDF Management is pro Indian. And I have no doubt about that.

You will not get a negative rating for saying that rape has been used by military personal , but if you post things such as army of rapists etc, then people may give you such a rating.
Indian members are routinely banned for insulting the Kashmiri struggle e.g. calling for the extermination of Kashmiri Muslims.
This website helps no one in that sense.
If the PDF management are pro-Indian, then no patriotic Pakistani in his or her right mind would be on here, but yet we are the most popular forum by a long shot.