Muslims safer in India than anywhere else in world: Yogi Adityanath

[The_Showstopper]

These are my rules,

1. I stick to facts, not opinions.
2. I never attack/abuse unless the other guys starts it.

Stick to the topic without abusing anybody and you will do just Fine.

You can follow your rules at your place, this is PDF and you are supposed to follow the rules of this forum....

 

[MokshaVimukthi]

You can follow your rules at your place, this is PDF and you are supposed to follow the rules of this forum....

LOL. ..... good luck.

 

[The_Showstopper]

If you are not allowed to enter , then I personally condemn It. And would like to talk about this to other peoples. More over, other non Hindus should make a request to allow them inside a temple.

They did but were turned down....

 

[SarthakGanguly]

I don't "seem" to think, I experienced it....

You will experience all systems incompatible, you will face discrimination everywhere. ISIS folks face that in normal situations in normal places with normal people.

Can I and other Non-Hindus get to enter and see the Puri Jagannath Tempe shrine?

You can visit other temples.

And why there? So that you can make fun of the evil and meaninglessness of idol worship there? Why can't you stand a single such temple in a Hindu majority state?

 

[Iggy]

i am just fatigued posting within such threads... my stand has been direct and clear since my joining.

"jana gana mana"... did anyone ask the muslims/christians/sikhs/parsis/socialists whether they are comfortable with this sanskrit proto-religious song and which does not even mention their existence and contributions... this is dictatorship.

many sing it because they do not want to charged under the british-era "sedition" laws.

i don't see this song rousing any revolutionary spirit within me.

So you have problem with our national anthem because it was sanskrit? I have seen your many posts, you claim yourself to be a marxist/socialists but you cannot stand other religions.. I have seen your posts insulting Hindusim and provoking other people.. Let me ask you, what kind of socialist are you if you cannot see eye to eye with other people and respect them and their believes?

 

[The_Showstopper]

You will experience all systems incompatible, you will face discrimination everywhere. ISIS folks face that in normal situations in normal places with normal people.

OK

You can visit other temples.

And why there? So that you can make fun of the evil and meaninglessness of idol worship there? Why can't you stand a single such temple in a Hindu majority state?

So why does your friend want to visit Mecca, why not some other mosques? There are plenty available....

 

[Iggy]

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You can visit other temples.

And why there? So that you can make fun of the evil and meaninglessness of idol worship there? Why can't you stand a single such temple in a Hindu majority state?

Thats rude, just because people from other religions visit temples does not mean that they are going to mock your believes..

 

[SarthakGanguly]

Yep bery bery true, exceptions are not counted here, like every once three or four years they celebrate a festival where the go like.........

Err...you took a screenshot of a mockumentary film on the Gujarat riots. The actor/guy being 'beaten' was a shopkeeper and is being scolded for opening his shop on a hartal day.

 

[MokshaVimukthi]

So why does your friend want to visit Mecca, why not some other mosques? There are plenty available....

Is it not a historical location ? Why can't one visit as a history buff ? or as an archaeologist or an architect etc ?

 

[SarthakGanguly]

OK


So why does your friend want to visit Mecca, why not some other mosques? There are plenty available....

He wants to go - ask him. Maybe because Islam is the perfect and only religion. He expected it to be more....accommodating perhaps. I don't know. We are fine with being less than perfect.

Thats rude, just because people from other religions visit temples does not mean that they are going to mock your believes..

I am rude to ISIS fanatics.

 

[Iggy]

I am rude to ISIS fanatics.

I never seen @The_Showstopper sympathizing with ISIS. Yea he is critical to Modi government, doesn't mean that he is mocking your religion..

 

[The_Showstopper]

So you have problem with our national anthem because it was sanskrit? I have seen your many posts, you claim yourself to be a marxist/socialists but you cannot stand other religions.. I have seen your posts insulting Hindusim and provoking other people.. Let me ask you, what kind of socialist are you if you cannot see eye to eye with other people and respect them and their believes?

No the problem was regarding the bolded part below....

Bhagat Singh photos on currency notes: Add Netaji Subhas Chandra Bose's photo also, they also deserve a place there along with Gandhiji.

Make them sing Saraswati Vandana: It should be our national anthem.

Btw, Sanskrit is the mother language of all Indian languages, including the ones Muslims speak. It's not bad to learn some basics of it for 2-3 years in school.

He wants to go - ask him. Maybe because Islam is the perfect and only religion. He expected it to be more....accommodating perhaps. I don't know. We are fine with being less than perfect.

I am rude to ISIS fanatics.

That's OK....

I never seen @The_Showstopper sympathizing with ISIS. Yea he is critical to Modi government, doesn't mean that he is mocking your religion..

If you are critical against their Master aka Modi, then they are anti-national, traitor etc.... and if you happen to be a muslim critic of their Master, then you even end up being a muslim fanatic, ISIS terrorist... And the list goes on. Go through the interactions I had with certain posters(Bhakts), some of them were really abusive... I've developed a thick skin for them...

 

[I.R.A]

Err...you took a screenshot of a mockumentary film on the Gujarat riots. The actor/guy being 'beaten' was a shopkeeper and is being scolded for opening his shop on a hartal day.

Hmmmm very nice idea of hartal with swords

 

[dray]

No the problem was regarding the bolded part below....

That's OK....

If you are critical against their Master aka Modi, then they are anti-national, traitor etc.... and if you happen to be a muslim critic of their Master, then you even end up being a muslim fanatic, ISIS terrorist... And the list goes on. Go through the interactions I had with certain posters(Bhakts), some of them were really abusive... I've developed a thick skin for them...

@The_Showstopper I didn't say that Saraswati Bandana should be our national anthem!

I said our national anthem should be the prayer in schools. And @jamahir has problem with the national anthem also. @Iggy

 

[jamahir]

I have seen your many posts, you claim yourself to be a marxist/socialists but you cannot stand other religions..

i have been constantly speaking of post-religion communist humanity... my objection is not people believing in god but the present mysticism they surround themselves with, those obsessions with prayer and ritual.

just yesterday, i wrote about people burning to death once in the tent city in makkah during hajj and people dying in stampede in front of hindu temples in india, and me questioning what use were the prayers the dead did before dying if they in the end died horribly.

I have seen your posts insulting Hindusim

one of my earliest posts was declaration that muslims don't need mosques and most present mosques must be demolished... this was in a thread about babri masjid... some tableeghi from bangalore or lucknow would be as angry as you but he would be absolutely wrong to do so.

if i being socialist muslim question the existence of a separate hindu goddess for money ( lakshmi ) and the need to offer food to non-living idols while humans die of hunger, is that insult or questioning wrongness?? if i question the evils presented by traditional indian family culture, will i be insulting or actually insisting people to discard regressive traditions and move towards real progress??

did i ever insult any member... rather, i have received insults and threats since my joining, most of them sadly from indian members.

and provoking other people..

in many posts, i intend to provoke... like any preacher does... don't i provide an alternate common sense view to what is accepted as de facto despite that something being possibly wrong??

Let me ask you, what kind of socialist are you if you cannot see eye to eye with other people and respect them and their believes?

socialism necessarily demands the discarding of accepted social traditions if they go against freedoms and common sense... but you should be fair and accept that i have been a most gentle member here who has not used some pseudo-americanism to insult someone or be rude.