Zulfikar Ali Bhutto | 'The Falcon of Pakistan'

[Patriots]

Bhutto tearing paper into pieces in security council meeting ... He surely had balls ! Must watch the video!!!

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1408087166088181

 

[pkuser2k12]

Bhutto tearing paper into pieces in security council meeting ... He surely had balls ! Must watch the video!!!

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1408087166088181

the paper teared was a motion by un to stop both armies indian and pakistan where they were in 71 war and resolve the issue but Mr bhutto wanted to be sultan rahi over estimated power of our army and situation of rebels and indian army.so he did not accept it

in the end we lost the war

this is my information on this video if yours is different kindly let me know

 

[Patriots]

the paper teared was a motion by un to stop both armies indian and pakistan where they were in 71 war and resolve the issue but Mr bhutto wanted to be sultan rahi over estimated power of our army and situation of rebels and indian army.so he did not accept it

in the end we lost the war

this is my information on this video if yours is different kindly let me know

Pakistan’s viewpoint termed the war as an Indian-Russian conspiracy and not a local movement ... As he tore his papers on the floor of the Security Council ... Bhutto showed a deep contempt for the Indian-Russian alliance that had facilitated this disaster.

 

[pkuser2k12]

Pakistan’s viewpoint termed the war as an Indian-Russian conspiracy and not a local movement ... As he tore his papers on the floor of the Security Council ... Bhutto showed a deep contempt for the Indian-Russian alliance that had facilitated this disaster.

search yuri bezmenov Top soviet russia official of KGB who defected to USA in 1970

He himself over viewed all operations and making of an insurgency in east Pakistan

He was debriefed in Europe first by CIA before getting green light and was shifted to USA

 

[Patriots]

search yuri bezmenov Top soviet russia official of KGB who defected to USA in 1970

He himself over viewed all operations and making of an insurgency in east Pakistan

He was debriefed in Europe first by CIA before getting green light and was shifted to USA

Sorry ... I couldn't understand what are saying ... Kindly elaborate .......

 

[pkuser2k12]

Sorry ... I couldn't understand what are saying ... Kindly elaborate .......

That the soviets and indians were in it together but the stupid liberals in Pakistan term it only as fault of Pakistan and army

they are doing the same now with Baluchistan issue

their backs are burned on issue of Pakistans involvement in other countries but in thier own country they dont raise foreign supports to rebels

see the video below it is an eye opener about communism and breaking Pakistan

Yuri Bezmenov: Deception Was My Job (Complete)​

What Happened in East Pakistan (Yuri Bezmenov Former KGB Psychological Warfare Expert)​

 

[Meengla]

A lot of people, including my own mother in Karachi, blame Bhutto for the East Pakistan disaster. They are all wrong. Pakistan was in a Martial Law. General Yahya held the absolute power. Bhutto was the major player but only in West Pakistan. Bhutto and PPP along with just about ALL West Pakistanis rejected Mujib's Six Points which were essentially a declaration of secession which NO COUNTRY in the world would accept. That Pakistan lost is almost certainly because of geographical reasons.

Anyway, ZAB tried to galvanize the world opinion in the Security Council but it was too little, too late. What was lost on the battleground could not have been won on the UNSC tables. This speech was a great speech. A principled stance. But inconsequential.

ZAB can be certainly blamed for many faults: His failed 'nationalization'. His short temper. His victimization of political opponents.But he was certainly the best since M.A.Jinnah. A fact even Imran Khan acknowledges.

May ZAB rest in peace.

 

[pkuser2k12]

A lot of people, including my own mother in Karachi, blame Bhutto for the East Pakistan disaster. They are all wrong. Pakistan was in a Martial Law. General Yahya held the absolute power. Bhutto was the major player but only in West Pakistan. Bhutto and PPP along with just about ALL West Pakistanis rejected Mujib's Six Points which were essentially a declaration of secession which NO COUNTRY in the world would accept. That Pakistan lost is almost certainly because of geographical reasons.

Anyway, ZAB tried to galvanize the world opinion in the Security Council but it was too little, too late. What was lost on the battleground could not have been won on the UNSC tables. This speech was a great speech. A principled stance. But inconsequential.

ZAB can be certainly blamed for many faults: His failed 'nationalization'. His short temper. His victimization of political opponents.But he was certainly the best since M.A.Jinnah. A fact even Imran Khan acknowledges.

May ZAB rest in peace.

Bhutto and Ghulam Mustafa khar was in East Pakistan for talks with mujeeb and on the night operation was satrted

when he and his cabinet members were escorted out in a bus his cabinet was clapping and cheering on army personnel outside on army operation

see program of najam sethi with gulam mustafa khar when najam sethi was in dunya tv .Khar told all the above things as eye witness himself in that program

bhutto was the one who said "who ever will go to east pakistan for session of parliament he will break his legs"

Father of Kasuri and one other member of west Pakistan went to east Pakistan for parliament session later Kasuri was killed in Pakistan under Bhuttos rule and later bhutto was sentenced to death in kasuris murder case

bhutto also said "tum udhar hum idhar"

bhutto had no intention of giving power to mujeeb from the day one all the crap of 6 points etc etc is a crap because the intention of power transfer was not there

same crap ppp pulls now for every damage they do to Pakistan

 

[Meengla]

@pkuser2k12,
Almost ALL of West Pakistan were against Mujib's plan--which was essentially a declaration of independence. So what if Bhutto cheered?! I was very young then. I come from Urdu Speaking background in Karachi. We hated PPP and Bhutto. I remember 'Bengali' was considered a very bad word in Karachi in early 1970's. ZAB had NO AUTHORITY to thwart anything. Yayha and military were in power. Just because ZAB benefited from the war doesn't make him the cause of the disaster. In fact, the devious drunk Yahya wanted to continue in power after 17 December 1971 but the higher military command correctly displaced him and asked ZAB to come to Pakistan and take up the charge as a Civil Martial Law Administrator!!
These are facts.
PS. I remember my mother telling me: Paan leaves had become expensive all of a sudden then because Dhaka is no longer with Pakistan. Hmmm.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Pakistan Lost due to Lack of Helicopters and Weapons program and weak navy nothing do , with Bhutto or anything else

65 , We had first way , Indian knew what were strong points for Pakistan , they countered it with 5-6 years of planning and then they instigated the war and used the fact they had stronger navy to blockade Pakistan

Bhutto had balls, or was hard spoken intellect but , in end he was hanged

I admire his Nationalism and passion we certainly lack that "BOLDNESS" and courage in our Leadership

I DO NOT SUPPORT PPP for lack of any credibility and prefer PTI

The fact that Fatima Jinnah could not become Prime Minister in Pakistan is one of reasons our Democracy was derailed

The fact that Liaqat Ali Khan was assassinated for disruption of Democracy is also a reason why the founding governments that liberated Pakistan could not do what it envisioned for its people


Now , we have Imran Khan , however he is waiting in line since 90's trying to lead the nation ... that is the only hope for nation

 

[Solomon2]

...devious drunk Yahya wanted to continue in power after 17 December 1971 but the higher military command correctly displaced him and asked ZAB to come to Pakistan and take up the charge as a Civil Martial Law Administrator!!
These are facts.

Yahya was given the boot because at the end of the war there were 90,000 Pakistani military POW's in enemy hands and only diplomacy, not military action, could get them out - and Z.A.B., the other commanders figured, had sufficient skill and just the right amount of legitimacy to get them out of their hole.

If Z.A.B. had acquiesced to E. Pakistani leadership Pakistan would likely have become a federation with an externally-oriented military and thus a much more formidable opponent of India, as well as a happier place to be. But Z.A.B. wanted power in his own hands: better a Pakistan diminished and his than a Pakistan whole and not his to rule, even if that meant 300,000 Pakistanis should die.

 

[batmannow]

Yahya was given the boot because at the end of the war there were 90,000 Pakistani military POW's in enemy hands and only diplomacy, not military action, could get them out - and Z.A.B., the other commanders figured, had sufficient skill and just the right amount of legitimacy to get them out of their hole.

If Z.A.B. had acquiesced to E. Pakistani leadership Pakistan would likely have become a federation with an externally-oriented military and thus a much more formidable opponent of India, as well as a happier place to be. But Z.A.B. wanted power in his own hands: better a Pakistan diminished and his than a Pakistan whole and not his to rule, even if that meant 300,000 Pakistanis should die.

simple, but super?
it was so funny, later same ZAB was, asking the soviets to become the partners of his rule against US & the whole of west, that he himself started wearing, socialist style cloths, to show & act like one of them?
funny actor, he was!

 

[Jackdaws]

Any Security Council resolution which would not have been in India's interest (which had the upper hand) would have been vetoed by the Soviets.

Anyhow - read the book the Rape of Bangladesh by Anthony Mascarenhas - a British journalist providing first-hand account of what was happening in East Pakistan.

Also, in the election Mujib won fair and square. As the majority party, he had every right to form the Government. There was a reason for the 6 points put forth. East Pakistan had over 60% of Pakistani population but the federal government was spending less than 30% on East Pakistan. Any neutral account will verify this. There is no smoke without fire.

East Pakistan had every reason to feel economically aggrieved. Then there was the matter of insisting on promoting Urdu over Bengali.

Don't blame India or Soviet Union for the independence of East Pakistan - they just cut the umbilical cord. It was Pakistan which did the deed.

 

[batmannow]

Any Security Council resolution which would not have been in India's interest (which had the upper hand) would have been vetoed by the Soviets.

Anyhow - read the book the Rape of Bangladesh by Anthony Mascarenhas - a British journalist providing first-hand account of what was happening in East Pakistan.

Also, in the election Mujib won fair and square. As the majority party, he had every right to form the Government. There was a reason for the 6 points put forth. East Pakistan had over 60% of Pakistani population but the federal government was spending less than 30% on East Pakistan. Any neutral account will verify this. There is no smoke without fire.

East Pakistan had every reason to feel economically aggrieved. Then there was the matter of insisting on promoting Urdu over Bengali.

Don't blame India or Soviet Union for the independence of East Pakistan - they just cut the umbilical cord. It was Pakistan which did the deed.

all of the dam reasons, allowed india to train mukti bahani, & then just become armed supporters of the bengali nationalists?
if it was , that ?
then i, guss pakistan reserved all the rights, to support nagaland or who ever seen repressed in india or needy of pakistans militry help? right? kashmir,s are the top of list?then!

 

[khail007]

the paper teared was a motion by un to stop both armies indian and pakistan where they were in 71 war and resolve the issue but Mr bhutto wanted to be sultan rahi over estimated power of our army and situation of rebels and indian army.so he did not accept it

in the end we lost the war

this is my information on this video if yours is different kindly let me know

Till I read the column for which I was updating the link, I was also of same thoughts which your expressed. Even we were proud of some facts which presented about Mr. Zia-ul-Haq's debate in UN.

Truth is usually slow but always stand firm; Lie spread like fire but can't withstand. Time always clears the dust of lies which buries truth for time being.

Please read it completely and carefully:
Azim M Mian - Bhutto Zia aur aqwaam e mutahida-chand haqaaeq - Jang Columns

the paper teared was a motion by un to stop both armies indian and pakistan where they were in 71 war and resolve the issue but Mr bhutto wanted to be sultan rahi over estimated power of our army and situation of rebels and indian army.so he did not accept it

in the end we lost the war

this is my information on this video if yours is different kindly let me know

Till I read the column for which I was updating the link, I was also of same thoughts which your expressed. Even we were proud of some facts which presented about Mr. Zia-ul-Haq's debate in UN.

Truth is usually slow but always stand firm; Lie spread like fire but can't withstand. Time always clears the dust of lies which buries truth for time being.

Please read it completely and carefully:
http://jang.com.pk/jang/jun2012-daily/29-06-2012/col2.htm