Getting caught by age/medication/environment you should now take care of yourself and let the world go like it without you nosing in. The combination of age/medication sometime causes mental disorder that the victim can't feel. All your deliveries come as attack not discussion and you don't have idea over neutral view, open discussion etc. So, please first take care of your mental/physical health, many young chaps roam around on this forum and they may anytime use insulting words towards you. Wish you get free from the cage of age/medication/environment
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PlanetSoldier BRO, so far as far I can imagine, we have only interacted in following posts in brackets, right? From this premise, it is you that has initiated the response then I have only tried to help you to clear your conception. How does it equate to attack you? I'VE gone over and over my posts to find out the existence of any attacking languages but failed, although you have solely thrown insulting comments just to demean me. Now, please do find if have the ability to play 'Tit for tat'? Assuming your answer would be yes; I wouldn't insult but embraces you as bother since your intention seems not bad. See, I don't take things personally as I possess the understanding of nation is bigger than person and globe is bigger than nation. We are in a global/planetary mess thus focus should be on fixing it but not looking for medication's bad impact, thanks
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1.With sheer upsurge of BD MILL's peace keeping in UN missions; it literally lost its venom, core ethos and fighting spirit to become 'King of mercenaries' that was a complete deviation from military's prime rule, i.e. saving country from internal and external enemies. And the economic upliftment that you mentioned had nothing to do in BD's case if you read/observed/understood on how 'Positive current of Global Economy' was let to form in Asian hemisphere. BD mercenary's UN mission, RMG's export boast weren't the means to analyze ends rather poor, dense mass's labor exploitation, skills were. Kalu Bhai, you are brilliant enough to connect these prime issues of economy, global domineering factors with the usefulness of small, manageable entity's inhabitants. IMO, RMG export or serving in UN mission has been causing more damages than betterment of BD but it seems like we are option less at the moment. How we have reached at this point would take rims of papers for me to describe empirically though.
Original PostBy M_Saint
For saving country from internal and external enemies you first need strong leadership, not army. A disciplined army is supposed to abide by the command of supreme commander, they take their oath this way and our army is doing that, we can't blame them blindly. Now what makes you think our army can't save us if we are under strong leadership and people are with them? In 2001 border conflict one Major alone stood before an indian APC with a gun in hand waiting for the high command's decision to jump on enemy. Do you think in 2008 our navy would deploy frigates when Burmese navy guarded a Korean oil exploration ship if Hasina/Khaleda were on power...I believe never, so, it's leadership. I personally know many ones who don't care who the enemy is, if they are ordered to fight, they will. So, your comment is sort of insulting towards army.
Regarding economy please try to have some positive view too.
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http://www.defence.pk/forums/bangla...al-4-lockhead-mc-130e-us-2.html#ixzz1wsN0c3kd
2.For saving country from internal and external enemies you first need strong leadership, not army. A disciplined army is supposed to abide by the command of supreme commander, they take their oath this way and our army is doing that, we can't blame them blindly. Now what makes you think our army can't save us if we are under strong leadership and people are with them? In 2001 border conflict one Major alone stood before an indian APC with a gun in hand waiting for the high command's decision to jump on enemy. Do you think in 2008 our navy would deploy frigates when Burmese navy guarded a Korean oil exploration ship if Hasina/Khaleda were on power...I believe never, so, it's leadership. I personally know many ones who don't care who the enemy is, if they are ordered to fight, they will. So, your comment is sort of insulting towards army.
Regarding economy please try to have some positive view too.
Original PostBy PlanetSoldier
PlanetSoldier, a man that is willing to shoot, with a gun is way more materially-powerful than a defenseless strong leader. Proves are Mush's ousting of Newaz at gunpoint, armless Zia's getting killed by armed Manjur, conniving Ershad/MUA snatching powers by leveraging arm-force's strength. And 'Where the civilian rule ends, martial rule/law start', is the saying of both of its originator. So, who are you trying to convince here by throwing arguments on leadership's willingness? Do you have any idea on BRIT army GENS leading first INDO-PAK war from both sides to plant seed of future discords? What strong leader like Jinnah or Nehru could do to thwart them? As the saying goes like even the sand becomes sacred on where true soldier march’s from, how do you see civilian making such impact? So, don't throw PPP or Kyani or MUA's vhua arguments at me because I'm through it a long ago.
And FUA/MUA being Globalist/India's puppets, boxed us up further by picking an uncalled for show off against Burmese. End result of the entire game was for BD to lose the most lucrative blocs in BOB that contained gas/oil of billion's off $$. Also knowing that the invasion of energy resources was the denominators of drumming up/continuation of bogus WOT, MUA/FUA simply facilitated that to happen. So their empty rhetorics had no real correlation with national gain by any measure.
Lastly, I was one of the first ones to take the mission on honoring BD-MILL in global forums but after country was back-stabbed by them; I lost all the respects toward them. Up until now they didn't rectify to gain it back. And about positivity on economy, honestly there was nothing left over by MUA/RAWamy gongs IMO. http://www.defence.pk/forums/bangla...deal-4-lockhead-mc-130e-us-2.html#post2993001
3. Re: Zia's death anniversary today
So far I know first local awami league leader was proposed (maybe that Hannan) to declare the independence but that coward refused that for the fear of life. Later army officer Major Zia took the responsibility to declare. This bal now dances with glory of our independence war. Almost no bal guys were directly involved in war, all were under hideout. And at the end of war came notorious Mujib Bahini who actually started looting that lasted even after war.
BTW, do you have any firm source that says Ershad is behind the killing of Zia? I'm confused, Ershad continued everything initiated by Zia. During Ershad era our relation with China, Saudi Arab and Pakistan got a new height (initiated by Zia). Maybe there was 7 times state level visit by Ershad to China. Pakistan that time gifted 1/2 squadron of F-6 fighters to Bangladesh. If Ershad were influenced by india, how China, Pakistan relation got warmer then?
Original PostBy PlanetSoldier
BTW, do you have any firm source that says Ershad is behind the killing of Zia? I'm confused, Ershad continued everything initiated by Zia. During Ershad era our relation with China, Saudi Arab and Pakistan got a new height (initiated by Zia). Maybe there was 7 times state level visit by Ershad to China. Pakistan that time gifted 1/2 squadron of F-6 fighters to Bangladesh. If Ershad were influenced by india, how China, Pakistan relation got warmer then?
PlanetSoldier, Ershd's continuation of Zia's legacy could be dubbed as cunning fox killing chicken then nurturing her hens by its (fox's) term, understand? Ershd went to train in Dehradun, IND and came back around the same time of Hasian's return from the same country. Now, notorious Dehradun is known as the production facility of RAW's brain children thus Ershd is rightly called the 2nd worst RAW agent in BD. People tell me that even his utensils in kitchen are bought by RAW's money.
Again, please connect the dots on why Manjur, JMB's leaders weren't made public and let die hurriedly with all the secrets? Then find out the reason for Ershd, MUA, FUA's unconditional RAWamy leaning over true nationalists to set the correct investigative track. Later do some research on both Ersh, MUA/FUA's endeavors on making fake nationalists by breaking BNP up but not harming RAWamys? Hope you will get the lead from there on to draw the conclusion, thanks.
http://www.defence.pk/forums/bangla...as-death-anniversary-today-2.html#post2993327))
..I just wanted to know the position of JI in current Pakistan as a political party....that's all...is it popular in Pakistan now?
