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The HJ-12 appearance has been one of my favorite reveals at Zhuhai along with the Y-20, and the FC-31. 2016 show will be better, the appearance of the H-XX(H-20) is what I'm eager to see, won't be at Zhuhai though.
 
The HJ-12 appearance has been one of my favorite reveals at Zhuhai along with the Y-20, and the FC-31. 2016 show will be better, the appearance of the H-XX(H-20) is what I'm eager to see, won't be at Zhuhai though.
It will be HJ-12 for PLA and Poly's TQ-01 ATM for export ...
 
It will be HJ-12 for PLA and Poly's TQ-01 ATM for export ...

Hey man this might be a dumb question but I am a bit confused, is the FC31 a different bird than the J31? I ask because a lot of different articles online are giving different info, some are making it seem like they are actually the same exact bird just an alternate name but then others are saying it is a different platform based on the J31. So which is it exactly?
 
Hey man this might be a dumb question but I am a bit confused, is the FC31 a different bird than the J31? I ask because a lot of different articles online are giving different info, some are making it seem like they are actually the same exact bird just an alternate name but then others are saying it is a different platform based on the J31. So which is it exactly?
J-31 named by military fans not official name, in 2014 ZhuHai Air Show China AVIC gave the formal official name: FC-31.

They r the same stealth fighter prototype N.o30001, just different name by non-official & official.
 
J-31 named by military fans not official name, in 2014 ZhuHai Air Show China AVIC gave the formal official name: FC-31.

They r the same stealth fighter prototype N.o30001, just different name by non-official & official.

Oh alright thanks for clearing that up. :enjoy:
 
It will be HJ-12 for PLA and Poly's TQ-01 ATM for export ...
HJ-12 is a game changer. In world market, there is only 2 sources you can get. Israel spike and US Javelin. Even the Russian struggling many years still cannot produce a FnF ATGM.

With HJ-12, those who are not friendly to western has finally have a new source to get FnF ATGM.
 
Has HJ 12 been deployed? Is there any video?

When are these systems being deployed? Especially the UAVs?
 
Has HJ 12 been deployed? Is there any video?

When are these systems being deployed? Especially the UAVs?
"HJ-XXX" and "HQ-XXX" missile they r only PLA's formal name, when u see these names, it means missiles had served in PLA Army now.

The " Attack-I " attack UAV (here in former post) is PLA serving UAV.

My answer is they all equiped by PLA Army, mature tech weapons in China military force.



 
J-31 named by military fans not official name, in 2014 ZhuHai Air Show China AVIC gave the formal official name: FC-31.

They r the same stealth fighter prototype N.o30001, just different name by non-official & official.

China's J-31 Stealth Fighter: Then and Now


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J-31's Debut
The J-31 "31001" technology demonstrator flies past in a public demonstration at the Zhuhai 2014 Airshow. In addition to generating export interest, Shenyang Aircraft Corporation is looking to get J-31 business from the PLAAF.
Hunter Chen
Much has been made of China’s J-31 stealth fighter making an appearance at the 2014 Zhuhai Airshow. (Too much in fact; for example Foreign Policy magazine tried to tie the news to Obama’s visit this week, despite the fact that the airshow has been going on since 1996 and the plane flying since 2012.) But what can we learn from its appearance?

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J-31 Lands
The J-31 "31001" makes another approach at Zhuhai. The J-31 is still a tech demonstrator at this point, and lacks extras like electro-optical and missile launch warning sensors, as well as likely using a preexisting radar (J-10) at this point.
Flyer via Weibo
Made by the Shenyang Aircraft Corporation (SAC), it is highly likely that the J-31 will be China's version of the Joint Strike Fighter; its development is expected to spiral into both PLAAF and PLANAF variants. However, the J-31’s primary mission at Zhuhai has been to hunt for export customers. Beyond Chinese sales, likely customers for the J-31 include nations that have operated earlier generation Chinese export fighters like the F-7 and JF-17 (such as Pakistan and Egypt), as well as those looking for less expensive or non-U.S. alternatives.

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J-31
The J-31 differs from the F-35 in that it has two engines, which in turn reduces its area ruling, making for more efficient supersonic flight, including future supercruise once the J-31 obtains more powerful engines.
Hunter Chen
Currently, "31001" is a technology demonstrator for SAC's stealth fighter technology. Hence it uses preexisting systems, like the Russian RD-93 engines found on the FC-1 fighter, as well as having an older two piece canopy over the cockpit. "31001" was stated at the Zhuhai 2012 airshow to have a combat weight of 17.6 tons; like the transition from the X-35 to the F-35, production variants of the J-31 are likely to be heavier than the demonstrator.

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FC-31
This up to date scale model of the FC-31 (the J-31's export designation) at Zhuhai 2014 shows several important upgrades from "31001", including the installation of a Electro Optical Targeting Sensor (EOTS) pod under the nose (shiny gold fairing).
Blitzo at Sinodefense Forum
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Stealthines
The updated FC-31 design has several radar cross section reduction measures, such as clipped wing edges, and revised vertical stabilizers, to reduce reflected radar waves.
Andreas Rupprecht via China Defense Forum
While "31001" flew crowd pleasing maneuvers at Zhuhai, a new and updated scale model of the J-31, or FC-31 in its export designation, on display shows changes that would come to any likely final plane. The new model has redesigned wings, clipped at the corners to enhance stealth, and all new vertical stabilizers, which have been enhanced for stealth. The new model also has an Infrared Search and Track sensor installed on the underside of its nose, to enable the J-31 to track the heat signatures of enemy aircraft. It also has redesigned, stealth optimized engine nozzles, which suggest that a Chinese 10- to 11-ton thrust engine will ultimately replace the Russian RD-93. Notably, such future engines could allow the J-31 to supercruise, a feature that the F-35 does not have.

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New Engines
The stealthy new engine nozzles on the FC-31 model indicate that SAC looks to replace the current RD-93 turbofans. The yet unnamed turbofan engines will each generate about 10-11 tons of afterburning thrust, which could enable the J-31 to supercruise.
mil.ifeng.com
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Next Gen Display
This flight simulator/cockpit avionics display shows state of the art pilot/cockpit interface technology, including a holographic Heads Up Display (HUD), a built in helmet wide display, and multi-functional display screens (not shown) that would show and fuse sensor data, managed communications, as well as firing and controlling weapons.
china.com
The J-31 is clearly intended to be a true “fifth-generation” fighter, not only in stealth but also in sensor fusion and flight avionics. To its advantage, the J-31 does not have the difficult challenge of producing a design that allows both traditional flight and a STVOL variant like the F-35B. However, the great challenges in producing a multi-role fifth-generation fighter and high-performance engines means that SAC has its work cut out if the J-31 is going to enter service in 2022, a decade after its first flight.

China's J-31 Stealth Fighter: Then and Now | Popular Science
 
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The 400 kg CM-400AKG (derivative from YJ-12) ...

Why do You think the CM-400AKG is a derivate of the YJ-12 ??? As far as I know it is most likely based on or has evolved from the earlier SY-400 SRBM. The YJ-12 in contrast is a completely different "beast" much larger an heavier to be carried on the JF-17.

Deino
 
Exactly, meaning if we don't want Chinese products made by Chinese workers, other countries can replace China with cheap goods made for American consumers like perhaps Vietnam or Bangladesh.

U.S. economy is based on majority on services not manufacturing, you can look it up.

Just love the sheer stupidity whenever I see it. :omghaha: The cow has already gone home for years and you still come up with this crap as some sort of noverty...

U.S. economy is based on majority on services not manufacturing, you can look it up.

Exactly, that's why you've fucked up, kiddo. :lol: You can easily and rightly replace some individual low value-added products, but you can't replace the whole industrial value chain which China dominates.
 
China's J-31 Stealth Fighter: Then and Now

J-31%20Zhuhai%20Flight.jpg

J-31's Debut
The J-31 "31001" technology demonstrator flies past in a public demonstration at the Zhuhai 2014 Airshow. In addition to generating export interest, Shenyang Aircraft Corporation is looking to get J-31 business from the PLAAF.
Hunter Chen
Much has been made of China’s J-31 stealth fighter making an appearance at the 2014 Zhuhai Airshow. (Too much in fact; for example Foreign Policy magazine tried to tie the news to Obama’s visit this week, despite the fact that the airshow has been going on since 1996 and the plane flying since 2012.) But what can we learn from its appearance?

J-31%203%20Zhuhai.jpg

J-31 Lands
The J-31 "31001" makes another approach at Zhuhai. The J-31 is still a tech demonstrator at this point, and lacks extras like electro-optical and missile launch warning sensors, as well as likely using a preexisting radar (J-10) at this point.
Flyer via Weibo
Made by the Shenyang Aircraft Corporation (SAC), it is highly likely that the J-31 will be China's version of the Joint Strike Fighter; its development is expected to spiral into both PLAAF and PLANAF variants. However, the J-31’s primary mission at Zhuhai has been to hunt for export customers. Beyond Chinese sales, likely customers for the J-31 include nations that have operated earlier generation Chinese export fighters like the F-7 and JF-17 (such as Pakistan and Egypt), as well as those looking for less expensive or non-U.S. alternatives.

J-31%20Zhuhai%202014_0.jpg

J-31
The J-31 differs from the F-35 in that it has two engines, which in turn reduces its area ruling, making for more efficient supersonic flight, including future supercruise once the J-31 obtains more powerful engines.
Hunter Chen
Currently, "31001" is a technology demonstrator for SAC's stealth fighter technology. Hence it uses preexisting systems, like the Russian RD-93 engines found on the FC-1 fighter, as well as having an older two piece canopy over the cockpit. "31001" was stated at the Zhuhai 2012 airshow to have a combat weight of 17.6 tons; like the transition from the X-35 to the F-35, production variants of the J-31 are likely to be heavier than the demonstrator.

FC%2031%20Model.jpg

FC-31
This up to date scale model of the FC-31 (the J-31's export designation) at Zhuhai 2014 shows several important upgrades from "31001", including the installation of a Electro Optical Targeting Sensor (EOTS) pod under the nose (shiny gold fairing).
Blitzo at Sinodefense Forum
J-31%20Deino%20Zhuhai.jpg

Stealthines
The updated FC-31 design has several radar cross section reduction measures, such as clipped wing edges, and revised vertical stabilizers, to reduce reflected radar waves.
Andreas Rupprecht via China Defense Forum
While "31001" flew crowd pleasing maneuvers at Zhuhai, a new and updated scale model of the J-31, or FC-31 in its export designation, on display shows changes that would come to any likely final plane. The new model has redesigned wings, clipped at the corners to enhance stealth, and all new vertical stabilizers, which have been enhanced for stealth. The new model also has an Infrared Search and Track sensor installed on the underside of its nose, to enable the J-31 to track the heat signatures of enemy aircraft. It also has redesigned, stealth optimized engine nozzles, which suggest that a Chinese 10- to 11-ton thrust engine will ultimately replace the Russian RD-93. Notably, such future engines could allow the J-31 to supercruise, a feature that the F-35 does not have.

FC%2031%20Engine.jpg

New Engines
The stealthy new engine nozzles on the FC-31 model indicate that SAC looks to replace the current RD-93 turbofans. The yet unnamed turbofan engines will each generate about 10-11 tons of afterburning thrust, which could enable the J-31 to supercruise.
mil.ifeng.com
HUD%20Helmet%20Sinosoldier%20Zhuhai.jpg

Next Gen Display
This flight simulator/cockpit avionics display shows state of the art pilot/cockpit interface technology, including a holographic Heads Up Display (HUD), a built in helmet wide display, and multi-functional display screens (not shown) that would show and fuse sensor data, managed communications, as well as firing and controlling weapons.
china.com
The J-31 is clearly intended to be a true “fifth-generation” fighter, not only in stealth but also in sensor fusion and flight avionics. To its advantage, the J-31 does not have the difficult challenge of producing a design that allows both traditional flight and a STVOL variant like the F-35B. However, the great challenges in producing a multi-role fifth-generation fighter and high-performance engines means that SAC has its work cut out if the J-31 is going to enter service in 2022, a decade after its first flight.

China's J-31 Stealth Fighter: Then and Now | Popular Science
It's the PLA trandition only mass production version fighter can named "J-XXX" and equiped by PLAAF, those prototype only "XXX project" inside AVIC R&D team. So a stealth fighter prototype named by "J-31" it's only a non-official name gave by Chinese military fans since 2012 year J-31 N.o31001 photos on internet ... not a AVIC official name. In China we didn't read or see any J-31 name on China official media or newspaper, it was only called "some secret next-gen fighter".

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But this is 1st official formal name appear on 2014 ZhuHai Air Show: FC-31
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And that name FC-31 is for this one not for the prototype
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