Zardari, Haqqani knew about Abbottabad operation: Ijaz

[Leader]

nobody said it is; it's quite complicated......especially now with the judiciary and ever-boisterous media

but i don't believe Gen. Kayani reneged on his pledge to keep army out of politics; though i will confess army is sometimes forced to be engaged in work usually reserved for civilians ---- call it taking initiative which civvy govt. failed to tackle on their own (i'll be happy to see even 40% MNAs pay their taxes and stop mis-declaring their assets!)

and vigilant society. like Hasan Nisar say...

If Kiyani practically ever wanted depoliticizing army, it would have started with change in culture of military, but its business as usual.
The only thing Kiyani (the mindset) wants to prove to Nation is "hor chuppo", however complete tenure would probably ensure running of state of affairs without military interference, which seems a bit not acceptable.

do agree that its current politicians stature that gives advantage to a supposedly alternative.

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

it is true that the elements of "old ISI" did spread propaganda.......in early 1990s funds mysteriously ended up in the hands of Jamaat e Islami. They rented a single prop aircraft and were air-dropping pamphlets of BB (with her mother) wearing bathing suits. This was the level of our politics in those days --such a low blow.


actually, Hussain Haqqani (a man who claims to have loved Mohtarma and the PPP) used to be in the pockets of Nawaz Sharif and brothers......he was their man. A man of many coloured hats. In fact, Haqqani is said to have had at least tacit knowledge and role in an assasination plot against Bhutto herself! The plot never materialized, but it was existing.



(true story)

 

[true_indian]

Oh for gods sake, how is killing Osama against Pakistan National Security?

 

[mr42O]

I hate every one in this goverment and does not belive any of them BUT who they f*** is Ijaz Massod to know every thing. This person is fishy. I will not be suprised if goverment knew but how can this tratior know ? His father escaped to USA in 1970s to tell USA about Pakistani atombomb...

 

[patna_ke_presley]

I don't think Americans are this much fool to share the information with Zardari, Haqqani when they trust no one in Pakistan. Election are approaching in Pakistan and it seems the guy is doing some party politics to further malign PPP whose popularity already dipping in Pakistan.

 

[JanjaWeed]

Looks like this Ijaz guy has done a deal with Gen Pasha when he met him last time. It's not Zardari or Haqani's job to keep an eye on Pakistani air space or for that matter to operate the radar systems. It's the shortcomings of the army which allowed Americans to steal OBL under Pakistan's nose. Zardari & his govt is down on it's knees & while someone is down, might as well kick 'em & make sure that they stay that way!!

 

[salmakh84]

Mansoor Ijaz claims that Zardari and Haqqani had prior knowledge of Abbottabad operation.




Who to Believe & who not to Believe ?

However if this is true & Zardari & Company knew about Abbottabad operation They should be SHOT for compromising Pakistan's National Security .

As per eyewitness reports, it is even suggested (with considerably high probability) that OUR ARMY's TOP COMMAND was also aware of the operation but like Drone attacks, choose to close it eyes and pretend it doesnt know.

 

[F.O.X]

As per eyewitness reports, it is even suggested (with considerably high probability) that OUR ARMY's TOP COMMAND was also aware of the operation but like Drone attacks, choose to close it eyes and pretend it doesnt know.

Please provide me source of your information , i would very much like to see that COAS is lying to his own men I am waiting .. .

 

[iPhone]

actually, this isn't the first I heard of this that Zardari knew of the op beforehand and therefore knew of Osama's location. On a Pakistanitalk show somebody mentioned it and quoted Kiyani as saying, "at least the establishment wasn't aware of Osama's location." Now there is no official recognition of the quote the gentleman just said he heard Kiyani say it.

 

[iPhone]

An Act of precaution , to make Zardari & co scapegoat if things turned for worse.

very good point.

Also, US informing Zardari, does it mean that GOP has more power and more say than the 'fauj'. I mean it's gonna happen, and i'm expecting it to happen, too, once two or three democratically elected gov'ts come into power without any disruptions.

 

[salmakh84]

Please provide me source of your information , i would very much like to see that COAS is lying to his own men I am waiting .. .

Are you serious?

COAS wasn't lying about DRONES? Shamsi Airbase? They have been caught lying now!

As per Abbotabad operation, I'll find videos and articles and post it...

 

[F.O.X]

Are you serious?

COAS wasn't lying about DRONES? Shamsi Airbase? They have been caught lying now!

As per Abbotabad operation, I'll find videos and articles and post it...

When you will find the articles & videos that proves Army knew about operation i will believe it , until then your posts are nothing but Rants with no proof.

 

[OrionHunter]

Who to Believe & who not to Believe ?

According to Bruce Riedel, Presidential adviser on Middle East and South Asian issues, former CIA officer and bestselling author of five books which explore the critical situation in Pakistan, he categorically states that the info concerning Operation Neptune Spear to take out Osama who was hiding at Abottabad was NOT divulged either to the Pakistan Army nor to anyone in the government.

The CIA has also confirmed that it did not keep Pakistan informed in advance to avoid the mission being jeopardised.

Pakistan Govt was not informed of OBL raid in advance: White House

South Asian News Agency (SANA) ⋅ December 3, 2011 ⋅

WASHINGTON: US has refuted claims by Pakistani-American businessman, Mansoor Ijaz that Pakistani president Asif Ali Zardari, and former Ambassador Husain Haqqani had advance knowledge of a covert raid deep into Pakistan to capture or kill Osama bin Laden.

White House spokesperson Caitlin Hayden said: “There is no truth to the reports that Ambassador Haqqani or President Zardari had advance knowledge of the May 2 Abbottabad operation.” Hayden maintained that no one in Pakistan, or any other government was intimated in advance about a raid with stealth helicopters to kill the world’s most wanted man. “As we’ve said repeatedly, given the sensitivity of the operation, to protect our operators we did not inform the Pakistani government, or any other government, in advance.”

Pakistan Govt was not informed of OBL raid in advance: White House | latest | South Asian News Agency

 

[F.O.X]

According to Bruce Riedel, Presidential adviser on Middle East and South Asian issues, former CIA officer and bestselling author of five books which explore the critical situation in Pakistan, he categorically states that the info concerning Operation Neptune Spear to take out Osama who was hiding at Abottabad was NOT divulged either to the Pakistan Army nor to anyone in the government.

The CIA has also confirmed that it did not keep Pakistan informed in advance to avoid the mission being jeopardised.



Pakistan Govt was not informed of OBL raid in advance: White House | latest | South Asian News Agency

It has been a long time since we trusted someone of US or From US.

We don't trust them we will never trust them.

 

[Developereo]

Assalam alaikum

i have no sympathy for zardari or its govt. but i don't believe MI either and why would zardari or haqqani know about it?

armed forces r the one who can or could have done anything in this matter.

TARIQ

Exactly. It serves absolutely no purpose to tell Zardari or Haqqani.

In any case, whether we believe Mansoor Ijaz or not, the one thing we can absolutely positively believe is that he works for the benefit of
a) Mansoor Ijaz
b) US government

So, the question becomes, why has the US government turned against Zardari? Has he gone by his use-by date and the US has selected another "democratic" leader for Pakistan? Does creating tension and turmoil in the GoP and army serve any special purpose at this time?