Zaid Hamid commentary

[Spring Onion]

why Admins make one sticky thread for Mr Hamid. We have dozens of threads talking about samething

There is a sticky thread But seems Asim also has been swept away.

Asim paa jee dont make it an agenda also. There is a one sticky thread so better put all such posts there.

Kia pata ap log kal ko history hee create kar do

Mullas might come to award us (forum) hehehehe in the long run .

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[Spring Onion]

We do that now and then. ZH keeps popping up now and then. He has a movement of dumbasses, but its one heck of an organized movement.

Most of the anti-Z threads are opened by Indians or Pakistanis in disguise.

So dont blam the popping up of threads after threads on ZH.

 

[Awesome]

There is a sticky thread But seems Asim also has been swept away.

Asim paa jee dont make it an agenda also. There is a one sticky thread so better put all such posts there.

Kia pata ap log kal ko history hee create kar do

Mullas might come to award us (forum) hehehehe in the long run .

from this thread

I really don't understand why should Mullahs hate Zaid Hamid, other than he himself saying everything that Pakistans Mullahs say and do yet criticizing them.

On the threads mop up issue I agree and for your kind information we've merged like over 100 Zaid Hamid threads in the past 6 months . People are just too dheet.

 

[qsaark]

I really don't understand why should Mullahs hate Zaid Hamid, other than he himself saying everything that Pakistans Mullahs say and do yet criticizing them.

Fear of loosing monopoly I guess.

 

[Awesome]

Most of the anti-Z threads are opened by Indians or Pakistanis in disguise.

So dont blam the popping up of threads after threads on ZH.

On that I agree too... lol unka bhi number ayega. Har mulk dushman ki barabar se bajayenge.

 

[desiman]

I really don’t know what’s great about Zaid Hamid, all he can do is harm Pakistan by misguiding the youth, propagating military rule, glorifying the Taliban and coming up with useless conspiracy theories. He is just the kind of a guy my mom used to tell me to stay away from lol

 

[Spring Onion]

I really don't understand why should Mullahs hate Zaid Hamid, other than he himself saying everything that Pakistans Mullahs say and do yet criticizing them.

When was the last time Mullahs have spared anyone.

I think thekadari of mullahs has come to an end.

The time has gone when Mulla desiel and his Co used to fool people for votes by showing choosing the symbol of book

On the threads mop up issue I agree and for your kind information we've merged like over 100 Zaid Hamid threads in the past 6 months . People are just too dheet.

Then warn the dheets thats rule isnt it.

 

[sparklingway]

you don't really have to contact them. These poetries had already been widespread in Hindustan but for the ease of the peoples they were formed in a book so more peoples can read and understand his ideology.

As i said before i respect Carl Marx myself.... he was one of the best , i also respect RAM a lot because he was also one of the best of his time. There is nothing wrong in publishing his poetry. You have only mentioned 1-2 Poetries but these books involves hundreds of his poetries. Some his old work and some of his work was done in late 1920s etc. But in order understand Iqbal you have to thoroughly read about him, you can't pick one poetry of him and start talking about his ideology. His poetry is like a chain, don't break the chain, read the whole book to understand his message.

The point I was trying to make was only showing Mr. Ali that one can have blend of opinion. His narrow minded, youtube video inspired views do not allow room for debate. He spent 4 fricking pages labeling me an atheist lover, cia/raw agent and what not because in his opinion one cannot read different people and praise them b/cHazrat Zaid of course does not appreciate free thinking. He came up with fictional stories just like his murshid Zaid Hamd. He failed to debunk the claims I had posted earlier.

I just wanted to prove to him that Iqbal (for once atleast) had praised Marx and Lenin, and in my opinion no revolution is complete without a strain of socialism. That guy had nothing better than to spend 3 pages accusing me of first apostasy, then being a false flag member and other bullcrap as well.

You,clearly, are a sane and open minded person and are able to debate without going accusing me or anybody of crimes.

I have tried to read Iqbal as much as I can, and I happen to have covered nearly everything in this regard(atleast the Urdu poetry). The topic was not about Iqbal's message. The topic is about Zaid Hamid lying to everybody time and again. This thread got twisted by his blind followers.

PS:- Lenin came to power in 1917. The poem is most probably from after 1917 then. In addition to these poems, there are numerous other poems with socialist leanings from Iqbal. This discussion is totally off topic.

 

[sur]

Please Ban Zaid Hamid from this forum i am fed up reading about him. Give Supari to Chota Don and kill him if you wish to. We want peace not Ghazwa-e-Hind

We want peace too... the difference is that in ur kind of "peace",,, there'll be "pieces" of innocent bodies hanging on electricity poles every now & then... while in our kind of peace, only bad guys will be turned into "pieces" & innocent will sleep well... Our kind of long-lasting peace comes ONLY after wars.... search islamic history...

 

[Spring Onion]

Fear of loosing monopoly I guess.

very well said. I feel the time has come when mullas should face the reality. they had misled us for too long.


They are not thekadars of deen neither they understand it simple as that.

Everything is clearly stated in Quran. We do not need anyone to explain it to us. All we need to read the Quran with its meanings and translation correctly and check what is said.

 

[Spring Onion]

I really don’t know what’s great about Zaid Hamid, all he can do is harm Pakistan by misguiding the youth, propagating military rule, glorifying the Taliban and coming up with useless conspiracy theories. He is just the kind of a guy my mom used to tell me to stay away from lol

Lay off man.

You still do not understand what is great about your own leaders so better stick to your country.


Dont worry about Pakistan.


And go check the facts. UN said its time to talk to Taliban.


Your own Turbaned MM Singh office was quoted by Bharatiya orange media that India is ready to talk to ISI and TALIBAN

 

[qsaark]

I think thekadari of mullahs has come to an end.

The time has gone when Mulla desiel and his Co used to fool people for votes by showing choosing the symbol of book

I wish if that is true. Recently one of the JUI(F)'s candidate did win in Mansehra.

 

[desiman]

Lay off man.

You still do not understand what is great about your own leaders so better stick to your country.


Dont worry about Pakistan.


And go check the facts. UN said its time to talk to Taliban.


Your own Turbaned MM Singh office was quoted by Bharatiya orange media that India is ready to talk to ISI and TALIBAN

okkkkk im lost lol i wasnt taking a dig at Pakistan so i dont know why you had to say all this. well anyways please dont drag India into this argument, as that is what Mr.Hamid would want

 

[Hyde]

Lets, see the Taliban did. Saudi Arabia does, Iran does. It happened in Pakistan's Swat. What makes you think Khilafat-e-Rashideen of Zaid Hamid's would be any different?

Subhan'Allah SubhanAllah SubhanAllah

Very glad to hear your point of view.

None of the current regime is following Shariah Law. Only the punishment is given Islamically in Saudi Arabia. Rest is all against Islam

Like Qsaark said the concept of Islam is:

'Amr bil maroof, nahi anil munkir', that is, preach good things, and condemn bad (as per Islamic law)."

Freedom of speech? No.

You can't even imagine how much the freedom of Speech Islam allows. For example Hazrat Umar R.A. lost its case from Non-Muslim Jew while he was the Khalifa? (i think) can this happen in Pakistan?. One ordinary man stands and say to Umar R.A. that i won't obey your orders because we got a piece of Cloth from Bait-ul-Maal and we could not make our dress from it. But how did you manage to make it?

If you want to take a decision about something, gather the whole country (like what used to happen in Madina) and take their advise rather than few peoples who are sitting in Parliament.

Once Umar R.A. needed money for some reason so he went to his Finance minister and asked him to borrow a money for a day, and he replied saying oh Umar although u r a caliph but can you guarantee if you will remain alive until tomorrow to pay off this amount? and he was refused to borrow the money

I can give you plenty of examples how vast the freedom of speech Islam allows. You can go to your Caliph anytime and ask him a question and he will be held responsible if he is found guilty. But here you can't even ask a question to Mr Zardari because he is a President of Pakistan.

Music? No

I don't wanna disucss music

Dance? No.

We had a debate on Dance couple of days ago

Right to vote? No

Yes everybody will have the righ to vote

Women on TV? No

Nobody will stop women on tv if they are wearing appropriate dresses.

Fashion? No

Yes Fashion is allowed but within the limits of Islam

Freedom to preach religion? No

It is allowed too

For some people like Zaid Hamid Islam is making Muslims into sara hua pakora. Everything is a Kill joy. Kambakhti is good.

These Mullahs are very happy in turning everything about Pakistan into a kill joy.

I was/am never the fan of Mr Hamid.

 

[Spring Onion]

I wish if that is true. Recently one of the JUI(F)'s candidate did win in Mansehra.

Let me tell you. If you are talking about Mufti Kifayatullah then he won because he had done great development work in his constituency.

He even won when almost 99% of JUI lost in the last elections.