Z-10 & Z-19 Combat Helicopter News & Discussion

[Sasquatch]

Do you have a source that the WZ-16 turboshaft engines are in production ?

 

[Khaqan Humayun]

CH64 China

I saw some pic on google that China is making AH-64............after that I got this photo

 

[Luftwaffe]

I saw some pic on google that China is making AH-64............after that I got this photo

Fan Art, They have Z-10 which is being improved in Batches.

 

[Talha Mateen]

How much for Z-10? and can BDs and Sri Lanka able to get it? Also will China allow any Middle East or other Muslim country to join in the project to produce it in their own country like KSA, UAE, Jordan, Egypt, Algeria, Tunisia and etc

 

[cirr]

How much for Z-10? and can BDs and Sri Lanka able to get it? Also will China allow any Middle East or other Muslim country to join in the project to produce it in their own country like KSA, UAE, Jordan, Egypt, Algeria, Tunisia and etc

Why not？ All the above are brotherly countries。

And China has started on its next generation high-speed stealth attack chopper anyway。

 

[terranMarine]

Why not？ All the above are brotherly countries。

And China has started on its next generation high-speed stealth attack chopper anyway。

already?

 

[xhw1986]

China declassifies existence of WZ-10 attack helicopter’s pod radar

China has officially declassified the existence of a pod-mounted targeting radar for the WZ-10 attack helicopter.

According to the article, the radar was tested against a surface ship during an exercise by the Guangdong military region last month. The information was shared to all three helicopters using data-link.

武直-10：超视距攻击是一大特点 - 中国军网

 

[cirr]

already?

Who knows，we may get an inkling of the “thing” in a few months？

Your guess is as good as mine。

 

[terranMarine]

Who knows，we may get an inkling of the “thing” in a few months？

Your guess is as good as mine。

Chinese Commanche

 

[Khaqan Humayun]

 

[kuge]

Chinese Civil Helo’s Turboshaft Engine Makes First Run | Aviation International News

Chinese Civil Helo’s Turboshaft Engine Makes First Run
AINalerts » December 5, 2013
by Thierry Dubois


December 5, 2013, 3:30 PM
Helicopter engine manufacturer Turbomeca announced that the Ardiden 3C/WZ16, which was jointly developed with China’s Avic Engine, made its first run at the French firm’s test facility in Bordes in southwest France. The successful ground test confirmed the turboshaft engine’s aeromechanical behavior and performance, according to Turbomeca.

Some components of the new Ardiden derivative, the development of which is being conducted on a 50-50 basis, had gone through preliminary testing. Certification by the Civil Aviation Administration of China is expected in September 2015. The Ardiden 3C, understood to have a power close to 1,800 shp, features a modular design and a dual-channel Fadec.

The engine is expected to power the Avicopter AC352 medium-twin helicopter, the Chinese counterpart of the Pratt & Whitney Canada-powered Eurocopter EC175. The two airframers have shared the program on a 50-50 basis, too, with Avicopter responsible for the fuselage, among other subassemblies. However, the certification efforts, customer support networks and marketing areas are distinct. Turbomeca would not confirm whether the Ardiden 3C will power the first AC352 prototype.

 

[Beast]

Chinese Civil Helo’s Turboshaft Engine Makes First Run | Aviation International News

Chinese Civil Helo’s Turboshaft Engine Makes First Run
AINalerts » December 5, 2013
by Thierry Dubois


December 5, 2013, 3:30 PM
Helicopter engine manufacturer Turbomeca announced that the Ardiden 3C/WZ16, which was jointly developed with China’s Avic Engine, made its first run at the French firm’s test facility in Bordes in southwest France. The successful ground test confirmed the turboshaft engine’s aeromechanical behavior and performance, according to Turbomeca.

Some components of the new Ardiden derivative, the development of which is being conducted on a 50-50 basis, had gone through preliminary testing. Certification by the Civil Aviation Administration of China is expected in September 2015. The Ardiden 3C, understood to have a power close to 1,800 shp, features a modular design and a dual-channel Fadec.

The engine is expected to power the Avicopter AC352 medium-twin helicopter, the Chinese counterpart of the Pratt & Whitney Canada-powered Eurocopter EC175. The two airframers have shared the program on a 50-50 basis, too, with Avicopter responsible for the fuselage, among other subassemblies. However, the certification efforts, customer support networks and marketing areas are distinct. Turbomeca would not confirm whether the Ardiden 3C will power the first AC352 prototype.

It shall have completed the test by now since this new was in dec 2013.

 

[cirr]

More and more WZ-10s joining army aviation units：

 

[Beast]

More and more WZ-10s joining army aviation units：

Now to think of it, many critics of WZ-10 claim lack of IR suppression. Same as Apache which lack IR suppression too. Tiger help is equipped with IR suppression for its exhaust. But recent war of Syria demonstrated IR suppression are virtually useless against modern manpad like FN-6, newest stinger and Russian igla. The Iraq mi-35 gunship equipped with IR suppression failed to deal with FN-6 missile.

PLA is smart to discard IR supression to save more pounds for helo power. The most important thing is using better chaff/flares to shake off modern digital infra red missile seeker.

 

[Beast]

Why not China make a strategic move and sell Z-10s on cost to cost basis to Sri Lanka, BD and Pakistan.

It is still not approved for export yet.