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Although i have conducted chillas, manzils and went through turbulent azmaishes (spiritual tests), i find these spiritual tasks, the most difficult as my energy (mind) is drained at the end of the day.
We are poles apart when it comes to the paths we have undertaken ...... it may be I have issues understanding the mysticism properly or I find it nonconforming with my inner self (recommendation of any genuine book to understand the underlying concept would be appreciated) ...... couldn't ever understand why I have to submit to another human like me and go in isolation and cut off from the world of action to achieve something, like your mentioning of chilla, manzil right now doesn't make any sense to me, its like trying to unlock something that already exists ..... and how is it any different than Sadhus, Hindu Mystics and other non Muslim mystics? The basic practices and exercises are the same?
Sufism you can't understand without practicing it and if your heart, mind and soul not comfortable some ideas and believes practiced under Sufism then simply ignore it but denying it is total wrong thing.Some text would help ........
Sufism you can't understand without practicing it and if your heart, mind and soul not comfortable some ideas and believes practiced under Sufism then simply ignore it but denying it is total wrong thing.
We are poles apart when it comes to the paths we have undertaken ...... it may be I have issues understanding the mysticism properly or I find it nonconforming with my inner self (recommendation of any genuine book to understand the underlying concept would be appreciated) ...... couldn't ever understand why I have to submit to another human like me and go in isolation and cut off from the world of action to achieve something, like your mentioning of chilla, manzil right now doesn't make any sense to me, its like trying to unlock something that already exists ..... and how is it any different than Sadhus, Hindu Mystics and other non Muslim mystics? The basic practices and exercises are the same?
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So u do Reiki?
Age = 37, but i look a lot younger. People tell me, i look 28-29.
I think the reverse gear is due to my spiritual endeavours as my mentor once told me the more a spiritual person gets older, the younger he looks.
Profession= Many.
I am working and have worked as an engineer for leading telecom companies in different countries, as well as in security(leading teams for premises security, convoy security upto 30+ vehicles as well as body guard) and worked in Transport industry. I have also worked in manufacturing and IT industry.
I have conducted my own business also: Property + Transport + import/export from China to Pak.
I also have to do part time jobs in evening/night for my spiritual growth when told to do so by my mentor. These jobs are for humanitarian causes. Such jobs always include customer service where i interact with people and have to spiritually detect distressed people who interact with me during that job as clients for that business and then put them at ease through various means (listening ear, counselling, psychological therapy etc). These jobs may also include giving complimentary meals to people devoid of race, caste, creed, religion, nationality etc, prepared at my home.
The aim given to me for such part time jobs is that the person should go away smiling after interaction with me. So the job is not easy.
I have also worked in many different roles in spiritual world on spiritual duties, when required or ordered to do so. Although i have conducted chillas, manzils and went through turbulent azmaishes (spiritual tests), i find these spiritual tasks, the most difficult as my energy (mind) is drained at the end of the day.
So my profession is pretty much multi-dimensional.
Marital status= Confidential.
Marital status= Confidential.
i also wanted to give this smiley as reply as i spend my energies doing what i have to do rather than explain or defend spirituality, but then i saw the posts above with a smiley and though ok i will explain a bit .
If you think its not different, then ok i am a hindu, im a sadhu, im a non muslim. I don't really care, brand me anything.
Tho idont believe in the mystic practices done in pakistan but as of how different from sadhus etc then sadhus read their hindu text words etc but the muslim mediators recite Allahs names in their mediation sessions plus whatever wazaifs their peers assign. In some of the wazaifs there are things that atleast i am not comfortable with doing. Plus afaik in these chillas one needs to avoid eating some types of foods and during chilla period they might have to dress up very simply in plain white clothes, depends on type of chilla and what next u want out of it.We are poles apart when it comes to the paths we have undertaken ...... it may be I have issues understanding the mysticism properly or I find it nonconforming with my inner self (recommendation of any genuine book to understand the underlying concept would be appreciated) ...... couldn't ever understand why I have to submit to another human like me and go in isolation and cut off from the world of action to achieve something, like your mentioning of chilla, manzil right now doesn't make any sense to me, its like trying to unlock something that already exists ..... and how is it any different than Sadhus, Hindu Mystics and other non Muslim mystics? The basic practices and exercises are the same?
Also one major component that makes up for some spirtual healers treatment towards patient is tranfee of positive energies to the sufferer or patient. I dont know how it happens but generally those people who are friendly down to earth, patient, and who are patience in trials and azmaishain sent from Allah their aura becomes extremely positive and they always feel calm and this psoitve energy surrounds them and is felt by others.We are poles apart when it comes to the paths we have undertaken ...... it may be I have issues understanding the mysticism properly or I find it nonconforming with my inner self (recommendation of any genuine book to understand the underlying concept would be appreciated) ...... couldn't ever understand why I have to submit to another human like me and go in isolation and cut off from the world of action to achieve something, like your mentioning of chilla, manzil right now doesn't make any sense to me, its like trying to unlock something that already exists ..... and how is it any different than Sadhus, Hindu Mystics and other non Muslim mystics? The basic practices and exercises are the same?
I thought you were in Army Signal CorpsAge = 37, but i look a lot younger. People tell me, i look 28-29.
I think the reverse gear is due to my spiritual endeavours as my mentor once told me the more a spiritual person gets older, the younger he looks.
Profession= Many.
I am working and have worked as an engineer for leading telecom companies in different countries, as well as in security(leading teams for premises security, convoy security upto 30+ vehicles as well as body guard) and worked in Transport industry. I have also worked in manufacturing and IT industry.
I have conducted my own business also: Property + Transport + import/export from China to Pak.
I also have to do part time jobs in evening/night for my spiritual growth when told to do so by my mentor. These jobs are for humanitarian causes. Such jobs always include customer service where i interact with people and have to spiritually detect distressed people who interact with me during that job as clients for that business and then put them at ease through various means (listening ear, counselling, psychological therapy etc). These jobs may also include giving complimentary meals to people devoid of race, caste, creed, religion, nationality etc, prepared at my home.
The aim given to me for such part time jobs is that the person should go away smiling after interaction with me. So the job is not easy.
I have also worked in many different roles in spiritual world on spiritual duties, when required or ordered to do so. Although i have conducted chillas, manzils and went through turbulent azmaishes (spiritual tests), i find these spiritual tasks, the most difficult as my energy (mind) is drained at the end of the day.
So my profession is pretty much multi-dimensional.
Marital status= Confidential.