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Hafeez says the Israeli treatment stood in stark contrast to the racial abuse he had suffered as a tourist in Saudi Arabia a few years earlier, where people would pass him in line saying, “You’re Pakistani. You can wait.”

Standing in Jerusalem’s Mamilla shopping mall in a blue Chelsea soccer jersey and sunglasses on Monday, Kasim Hafeez could be your average Israeli, or Palestinian. But far from native, Hafeez is visiting Israel as part of a personal quest which is as emotional as it is unusual.

“I was just at the Wailing Wall and I broke down crying,” he says. “I realized the meaning of Jewish independence, and was saddened by the fact that no matter what, six million people will never get to experience it. Israel is an expression of the fact that the Jewish people simply do not want to be oppressed any more.”


Hafeez, 28, has indeed traveled a long way from his home in Nottingham, England, where he grew up in a tight-knit Pakistani Muslim community. Anti-Semitism was always in the background, he says, but Britain’s Muslims became politically mobilized following two seminal events: the publication of Salman Rushdie’s book “The Satanic Verses” in the UK in 1988, and the war in Bosnia.

‘We realized we were bullying them, but we justified it by the fact that Israel was oppressing the Palestinians’

“As a young boy of maybe six, I participated in a huge rally in London where Rushdie’s books were bought and burned, as well as his effigies,” he says.

But the radicalization of Britain’s Pakistani community reached its zenith at the terrorist attacks of 9/11. Hafeez says that hatred of the West got mixed in with conspiracy theories blaming Jews for the attacks, published in the main newspapers of the UK’s Pakistani community.

As a student at Nottingham University, Hafeez joined the Islamic Society, where, he says, images of death and destruction perpetrated by Israel against the Palestinians were regularly screened at meetings. The images were never contextualized or interpreted, serving merely to fuel preexisting hatred, he says.

Hafeez and his fellow students would harass students wearing overt Jewish symbols on campus, raising the issue of Palestine at every occasion, “even when the discussion was about oil in Antarctica.” He says the professors often went along with it.

“We realized we were bullying them, but we justified it by the fact that Israel was oppressing the Palestinians,” he says. “I told myself that they were ignoring us because they recognized our truth, when in fact they simply avoided us because there were 50 of us and only three of them.”

The turning point for Hafeez occurred when he came across Alan Dershowitz’s “The Case for Israel” in a bookshop.

‘Once, I circled a bus stop twice, looking for indications of racial segregation, a sign saying “Arabs only.” I couldn’t find any’

“I told myself that I would read his arguments, easily refute them, and that would be that,” he says. But refutation of Dershowitz’s arguments proved to be rather difficult for Hafeez. Following months of intensive research on the history of Israel and the conflict, he was so emotionally distraught that he had to leave his work and his studies.


“When I pulled myself together, I realized that the only way to resolve my questions would be to travel to Israel,” he says. And so he did, in 2007.

Upon arrival, Hafeez was detained for eight hours at Ben Gurion Airport. But rather than anger him, he says the conduct of the security interrogator left him with a deeply positive impression.

“The man kept apologizing for holding me up, saying that I must understand the security threats Israel faces. He kept offering me more and more cups of coffee and pastries.”

Hafeez says the Israeli treatment stood in stark contrast to the racial abuse he had suffered as a tourist in Saudi Arabia a few years earlier, where people would pass him in line saying, “You’re Pakistani. You can wait.”


Walking the streets of Israel, Hafeez says he realized that many of the stories he was told about Israel were simply lies.

Upon returning to the UK, Hafeez said he felt he had to convey his experiences to the broader public. He joined a Jewish organization, but left it after sensing he was preaching to the converted.

In 2011, he met representatives of Stand With Us, a pro-Israel advocacy group that works in campuses in the United States, Europe and Israel to educate students about Israel.

Today, he is serves on the advisory board of the organization, which has invited him to tell his story to Israeli students in Tel Aviv, Jerusalem and Beersheba. On Sunday, he met with Deputy Foreign Minister Danny Ayalon for a tête-à-tête.

“I don’t feel my story is that unusual. It’s just my life,” he says as he caresses a pendant with the Star of David that he bought at the end of his 2007 trip. “I hold this every time I miss Israel, which is every day. I know it sounds strange, but when I’m here I feel as though I have come home.”

The British Muslim who went from bullying for Palestine to crying at the Western Wall | The Times of Israel
 
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I lived in the Middle East for 12 years, in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia.

I have never experienced more racism in my life than I had living in Saudi Arabia.

Saudis and Arabs have inflated egos and Israel serves as a good humbling experience for them.
 
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Difference

when a poor person(arabs) get billions and become rich,he dnt knw what to do


how can one compare a
educated youth of israel vs arabs(who dnt knw what hairs are called in english personal experience
 
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I lived in the Middle East for 12 years, in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia.

I have never experienced more racism in my life than I had living in Saudi Arabia.

Saudis and Arabs have inflated egos and Israel serves as a good humbling experience for them.
Difference

when a poor person(arabs) get billions and become rich,he dnt knw what to do


how can one compare a
educated youth of israel vs arabs(who dnt knw what hairs are called in english personal experience
Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-affairs/185538-you-re-pakistani-you-can-wait.html#ixzz1x4GBWyQE
:cry::cry::cry:
 
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There are good and bad people everywhere. If Saudis treat Pakistanis so bad then why do over a million Pakistanis chose to live in Saudi Arabia. My parents also went to Saudi Arabia for Umrah and Hajj and they experienced no racism, they even praised the people of Medina for learning Urdu and being so kind to my parents.


And Israelis are the most racist people in the world. And they HATE Muslims. Look what they have done to the native Palestinians and their southern neighbors.

http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-...urn-down-apartment-lodged-black-africans.html


You people are living in fantasy world. Israelis hate Muslims, be it an Arab Muslim, Pakistani Muslim, or African Muslim.
 
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There are good and bad people everywhere. If Saudis treat Pakistanis so bad then why do over a million Pakistanis chose to live in Saudi Arabia. My parents also went to Saudi Arabia for Umrah and Hajj and they experienced no racism, they even praised the people of Medina for learning Urdu and being so kind to my parents.


And Israelis are the most racist people in the world. And they HATE Muslims. Look what they have done to the native Palestinians and their southern neighbors.

http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-...urn-down-apartment-lodged-black-africans.html


You people are living in fantasy world. Israelis hate Muslims, be it an Arab Muslim, Pakistani Muslim, or African Muslim.
first, you claim that good and bad people exist every where and thn you go ahead and call all the Israelies racists, wonderful :hitwall: Saudi Arabia is a sacred country and it has many religious sites, thats one of the main reason why many Pakistanis live there, current situation of Pakistan may also be the reason, other thn that, i dont see why any pakistani would want to live in KSA.
 
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first, you claim that good and bad people exist every where and thn you go ahead and call all the Israelies racists, wonderful :hitwall: Saudi Arabia is a sacred country and it has many religious sites, thats one of the main reason why many Pakistanis live there, current situation of Pakistan may also be the reason, other thn that, i dont see why any pakistani would want to live in KSA.

I do not believe Israelis will be kind and welcoming to any Muslim, be it a Pakistani Muslim or an African Muslim. There are numerous news on the net you can search where Israelis attack Muslims and immigrants.

And as for Saudi Arabia, why do those 1 MILLION Pakistanis live in Saudi Arabia. Its not for religious sites, they can visit for Umrah and Hajj anytime. The largest number of Pakistanis outside Pakistan are in Saudi Arabia and it has always been like that since independence.
 
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I do not believe Israelis will be kind and welcoming to any Muslim, be it a Pakistani Muslim or an African Muslim. There are numerous news on the net you can search where Israelis attack Muslims and immigrants.

And as for Saudi Arabia, why do those 1 MILLION Pakistanis live in Saudi Arabia. Its not for religious sites, they can visit for Umrah and Hajj anytime. The largest number of Pakistanis outside Pakistan are in Saudi Arabia and it has always been like that since independence.
what makes you say that? just a few youtube videos make your opinion a fact? Pakistanis heck even bangladeshis, indians, sri lanka muslims are treated like crap in Saudi Arabia, this has been my personal experience.
 
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The wailing wall of Israel- A tale of Pakistani visiting Israel

Perhaps we have all heard the oft repeated joke; when an American tourist came to Israel with the intention of visiting the Kotel (the Wailing Wall) but he forgot what it was called. When he stepped into a taxi, he said to the driver,

Can you please take me to the place where all Jews cry? Do you know where this is?

The taxi driver answered,

Beseder – I’ll take you there.

And he drove him straight to the taxation office!

When I stepped outside the Easy Jet terminal on Tel Aviv International Airport, I felt chills travelling down my spine. They were partly due to the baggage of history being a British Pakistani entering Israel, perhaps the most hated place on earth in Pakistan, its ideological twin; and mainly, it was the weather.

Tel Aviv was almost bordering zero degrees with strong winds that made it feel even worse; I had left London basking in glorious sunshine that resembled more of spring than fall.

However my racing heart started calming down when we entered the modern airport building. It all looked like the usual business day. There were passengers trolling their luggage and scurrying around. The airport staff was amicable and polite. We were showered with smiles, which was quite unusual for immigration staff at an international airport.

Quite importantly, there were no armed policemen around; compared to the British airport we flew from.

Gradually I noticed my group members, mostly senior British Pakistani businessmen, easing up which might sound a little odd, us being in Israel and all.

Our next few days in Israel were spent on a rollercoaster.

We had been travelling, attending meetings, speaking at receptions, engaging in discussions and waiting for the most coveted moment of our lives; offering Friday prayers at al Aqsa Mosque which is one of the three holiest places in Islam.

My trip to Israel was myth-shattering in several ways.

Israel was not the garrison state it was branded to be in the media. No scary atmosphere. No guns totting policemen. No siren-blazing police cars buzzing around; as commonly seen in London.

Surprisingly enough, Israeli chefs at the Grand Beech Hotel, when they figured out my Pakistani roots, knew how to prepare the big spicy mother of omelettes for the hectic day ahead.

Amongst many of my discoveries, I found out that Zionism had a separate existence from Judaism. This, I found out, when two orthodox Jews criticised Israeli atrocities on my flight from London to Tel Aviv. I was also kind of shocked when I heard from a senior retired air force officer ’what America blundered by creating a jihadi industry in Afghanistan and Pakistan; Israelis floundered by supporting Hamas against al Fatah’.

I met Israeli businessmen who whined about Israel’s isolation in the global fraternity due to its Zionist movers and shakers.

We were invited by the Federation of the Israeli Chamber of Commerce and Industry to look into its technologically advanced market economy.

Being the 24th largest economy in the world, and ranking 17th among 187 world nations on the UN Human Development Index, Israel’s economy also ranks 17th amongst the world’s most economically developed nations.

I was shocked when a senior Israeli businessman mentioned that the leading Israeli manufacturer of tankers, aircraft refuelers, fire fighting trucks, armoured vehicles and special purpose trailers, Hatehof Ltd., provided Pakistan’s Air Force with military equipment under a clandestine contract through Turkey; which was used in the much acclaimed JF Thunder aircraft. An Israeli press television aired a similar broadcast as well.

As the trip was organised from a business perspective, we missed the chance of visiting Palestinian areas, particularly the Gaza Strip. When I contrasted the developed State of Israel with underprivileged areas of the Palestinian territory, the Israelis claimed that they had handed control to Palestinian authorities who wanted to keep it as it is to showcase their miseries.

They also blamed rampant corruption in Palestinian authorities as another source of underdevelopment. The construction of the wall to isolate Palestinian areas from Israeli areas, an act of raising barriers, in the 21st century, in which humanity claims to have come a long way from since demolition of the Berlin Wall, however, does raise questions;

I roamed Jerusalem donning a keffiyeh; a traditional Arab headdress fashioned from square cotton; a scarf made popular by Yasser Arafat.

Past the Wailing Wall, I saw two fully armed Israeli soldiers in an alert position for the first time and stopped there to recollect ourselves. As a memento, we took a photograph of the contradictory scene that captured us.

The photograph shows the three faces cracking wide grins, holding guns with barrels that reached the ground; a weird mix of guns and roses.

It made me wonder if roses will have conquered guns by the time I make my next visit to the Holy Land; which, I thought, was definitely spacious enough to accommodate all Abrahamic faiths.
 
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There are good and bad people everywhere. If Saudis treat Pakistanis so bad then why do over a million Pakistanis chose to live in Saudi Arabia. My parents also went to Saudi Arabia for Umrah and Hajj and they experienced no racism, they even praised the people of Medina for learning Urdu and being so kind to my parents.


And Israelis are the most racist people in the world. And they HATE Muslims. Look what they have done to the native Palestinians and their southern neighbors.

http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-...urn-down-apartment-lodged-black-africans.html

You people are living in fantasy world. Israelis hate Muslims, be it an Arab Muslim, Pakistani Muslim, or African Muslim.

How many Israelis have you met?

I work with many Israelis and they are some of the most decent, hard working people I have ever met in my life. Never experienced any hostile intentions from them and they know I am Muslim and Pakistani.

Don't throw out such blatant stereotypes.
 
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