You cant fight india with a weak economy ...

[JonAsad]

Kashmir is a lost cause, we Pakistanis are not good Muslims to expect " ghayabana madad from Allah"
Our society, ikhlaq nothing extraordinary.
The way I see it we as a qoum will have to suffer extreme humiliation in order to unite and rise again..
Ghayabana Madad we have to earn it just because we are Muslims doesn't count.. Otherwise Palestine or Kashmir wouldn't have needed us to help them but just Allah..

 

[Mav3rick]

Which weapon India currently has that Pakistan cannot match pound for pound?

You mean you can match pound for pound with India despite the fact that their military is 2x and AF is 3x of Pakistan? What insane kind of pound for pound math is that?

What happens if IAF wipes out PAF and still has 1/3rd of its fleet available to bomb PA formations and strategic targets day in and day out; and I have given PAF the benefit of taking out 2/3rd of IAF before going down which in itself is a major achievement?

The only means and way to go to was is if we have enough Air Power to annihilate IAF and establish Air Superiority to assist PA against IA formations and thrusts into Pakistan. The way to do it is possibly to get some 10-12 squadrons of Fighters from China covertly along with deployment of multi layered BM/CM defense networks at our sensitive Military installations. It will also benefit China immensely as China would have no local competition after a decisive Pakistan & India war neutralizes India.

 

[jupiter2007]

West, India and other agencies have been planning to destabilize, denuclearize and disintegrate Pakistan for last 30 years. Current situation of Pakistan is because of this reason. West and Arab countries supported Zardari and Nawaz Sharif, destroying institutions, 18 amendment, TTP, extremism, suciede bombing is all part of the same plan.
Only way to fix it by bring strong anti-corruption, anti money laundering laws, fix the institutions and economy. Reduce government overhead by using technology, automation processes, biometric system to make sure no ghost employees.

 

[batmannow]

Reality of indian economy is here watch tht and stop promoting modi medias prapoganda tht india has the super economy and no one can fight with it?????

West, India and other agencies have been planning to destabilize, denuclearize and disintegrate Pakistan for last 30 years. Current situation of Pakistan is because of this reason. West and Arab countries supported Zardari and Nawaz Sharif, destroying institutions, 18 amendment, TTP, extremism, suciede bombing is all part of the same plan.
Only way to fix it by bring strong anti-corruption, anti money laundering laws, fix the institutions and economy. Reduce government overhead by using technology, automation processes, biometric system to make sure no ghost employees.

There is crap prapoganda goin on and on tht because of crouption this happned and tht happened while crouptors ruled pakistan with out any problem and then there wasn't tht much price hikes simple thing is PTI govt has no economic experience and thus it took a nose dive instaed of hiding behind tht, thy should bring a viable economic plans which at least give more economic power to a common men?
Cruntly it's not posible cause PTI govt without any economic experience has to follow IMF which will destroy the dying economy at a lighting speed collecting taxes from tea stalls won't solve any dam national growth, it will only worsen the situation while ppls will stop trading on even smaller level, and tht I'll bring manipulator with huge price hike cause thy ill be serving this govt with some taxes and the poor ppls will die under tht stress?
There is no country on earth where there is no crouption, small or high every dam country has it so don't make it, a justification of the failure of PTI govts economic policy?

 

[EpiiC]

Reality of indian economy is here watch tht and stop promoting modi medias prapoganda tht india has the super economy and no one can fight with it?????

Indian Economy is x10 bigger than Pakistans.... also Pakistan economy is 1.3% of US Economy....talk about humiliation ....

 

[batmannow]

Indian Economy is x10 bigger than Pakistans.... also Pakistan economy is 1.3% of US Economy....talk about humiliation ....

If u r goin too far thn frist listen the facts in tht Indian news video!
Thn when it comes competition of economies check how much the difference between China and India is it mean, Tht China can start a war with India and India will lose tht war, just because China has bigger economy?
Forget pakistan, compare Nkorea with usa?
Thn why not usa invaded North Korea untill now?
Cause north Korean economy means nothing to usa????
Evn forget tht, now look at Afghanistan, why dam NATO and USA with thier super economies can't win a war there????
It's all over educated, boring madness, which Jst bring some satisfaction bt in reality wars never happens because some country having larger economy?
War happens when some stupid, ppls like modi thinks tht its fakly projected economy can lead a successful win in a war, bt he forgets tht its not economy its about future, pride, and freedom of a nation for which it can stand and hit back and win against any stupid so called larger economy, cause soilders don't take orders from a bank manager to fight, thy use thier eyes, ears, and mind to fire a bullet when thy been told to do so?

 

[nahtanbob]

It wasn't during the Vietnam War with the US. I think you missed that completely.

Afghanistan being Afghanistan isn't exactly a coherent argument.

if Uncle Sam leaves Afghanistan it will still be Afghanistan - backward feudal society

Pakistan can and will sustain a conventional war. You folks keep on underestimating this fact. I am not calling for a war but I can tell you that Pakistan won't give a damn even if it has to default if need be. Countries have defaulted on far lesser pretexts than a war and in the overall scheme of things if a war begins, Pakistan's default won't be the headlines.

Also let's remember, Pakistan has never fought a war with ANYONE's backing, not Amreeki, nor Cheeni or Arabi.

And lastly, it won't be Pakistan that would initiate a war but it will respond with effect to what India does.

Tell us how long can Pakistan has fought a conventional war in the past against India

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

if Uncle Sam leaves Afghanistan it will still be Afghanistan - backward feudal society



Tell us how long can Pakistan has fought a conventional war in the past against India

Longer than indians claiming to have killed exactly 300 terrorists in Balakot and shooting down an F-16.................also longer than indians claiming that it is impossible for Pakistan to EVER become a nuclear weapons state with or without Chinese assistance...........

 

[Humble Analyst]

Allah needs no conditions. He awards who He likes

Allah likes faith good deeds and I do not think Allah likes cowardice or corruption.
Hijrat, Badar, Ohd Sulah e Hudabia all have lessons if want to learn.

 

[Wa Muhammada]

I agree that it will be near impossible to defeat India with our failing economy but our beloved Prophet Muhammad صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم ﷺ and the Sahaba e Ikram tied stones to their waists and went hungry for days when fighting the kuffar and digging the khundak and their perseverance and taqwa outnumbered the odds.

Allah ta’ala is the all giving and merciful, it’s just us insaan who have grown weak in imaan

 

[Arsalan 345]

Don't feel sad about this particular situation.there is a lesson to learn.learn something from enemy.look at indian economy and their diplomatic victory over us.after Mumbai blast,they decided to follow a path of success and in last 10 years,they have improved their economy.look at us! We have destroyed Pakistan in the last 10 years.corruption,weak economy, unjustified murders,we have seen everything even a war against ttp.there is no cricket in our country.we have destroyed ourselves.

We must take our time and build our economy.we can take revenge at some other time but not right now.i am sure everyone wants revenge.india used our weak economy as a chance to alter status of kashmir.i am more worried about our Kashmir because I don't think that India will give us time.if they give us 5 to 7 years,we can rebuild and we can destroy their army if we make right strategies.we need time.we should think with our mind.heart says go to war but it's not the right decision.

 

[nahtanbob]

Don't feel sad about this particular situation.there is a lesson to learn.learn something from enemy.look at indian economy and their diplomatic victory over us.after Mumbai blast,they decided to follow a path of success and in last 10 years,they have improved their economy.look at us! We have destroyed Pakistan in the last 10 years.corruption,weak economy, unjustified murders,we have seen everything even a war against ttp.there is no cricket in our country.we have destroyed ourselves.

We must take our time and build our economy.we can take revenge at some other time but not right now.i am sure everyone wants revenge.india used our weak economy as a chance to alter status of kashmir.i am more worried about our Kashmir because I don't think that India will give us time.if they give us 5 to 7 years,we can rebuild and we can destroy their army if we make right strategies.we need time.we should think with our mind.heart says go to war but it's not the right decision.

22 year old graduating during bad economic times cannot take solace at the faint hope the economy will be better 10 years down the road. you can argue there is little choice otherwise

 

[Genghis khan1]

If Pakistan (PAF, PN) is able to neutralize IAF bases in first 72 hrs. Then economy shouldn’t be the biggest issue. Infact PA can dictate the pace of the conflict. But if PA and PAF kept waiting for tit for tat responses, limited war or tug of war, than economy will be the deciding factor.

 

[ejaz007]

Don't feel sad about this particular situation.there is a lesson to learn.learn something from enemy.look at indian economy and their diplomatic victory over us.after Mumbai blast,they decided to follow a path of success and in last 10 years,they have improved their economy.look at us! We have destroyed Pakistan in the last 10 years.corruption,weak economy, unjustified murders,we have seen everything even a war against ttp.there is no cricket in our country.we have destroyed ourselves.

We must take our time and build our economy.we can take revenge at some other time but not right now.i am sure everyone wants revenge.india used our weak economy as a chance to alter status of kashmir.i am more worried about our Kashmir because I don't think that India will give us time.if they give us 5 to 7 years,we can rebuild and we can destroy their army if we make right strategies.we need time.we should think with our mind.heart says go to war but it's not the right decision.

Are you serious.

Indian economy under Modi has not improved rather stagnated.

Economy in Pakistan in the last ten years grew much better. The last government left the economy at roughly 6% growth rate and the genius invented by military brought it down to 3%.

Wars are not fought solely on economic strength. One needs will to fight an item missing on our side.

West, India and other agencies have been planning to destabilize, denuclearize and disintegrate Pakistan for last 30 years. Current situation of Pakistan is because of this reason. West and Arab countries supported Zardari and Nawaz Sharif, destroying institutions, 18 amendment, TTP, extremism, suciede bombing is all part of the same plan.
Only way to fix it by bring strong anti-corruption, anti money laundering laws, fix the institutions and economy. Reduce government overhead by using technology, automation processes, biometric system to make sure no ghost employees.

Wrong.

I guess you have not seen law minister press conference. All on board to curb NABs powers.

How easily people forget history. The first step IK took in KPK was to close NAB their then appoint a general to lead the anti corruption drive and when he went after PTI showed him the door.

Pakistan is at its weakest point because of the experiments being done by military with Pakistan's institutions.

 

[Genghis khan1]

Don't feel sad about this particular situation.there is a lesson to learn.learn something from enemy.look at indian economy and their diplomatic victory over us.after Mumbai blast,they decided to follow a path of success and in last 10 years,they have improved their economy.look at us! We have destroyed Pakistan in the last 10 years.corruption,weak economy, unjustified murders,we have seen everything even a war against ttp.there is no cricket in our country.we have destroyed ourselves.

We must take our time and build our economy.we can take revenge at some other time but not right now.i am sure everyone wants revenge.india used our weak economy as a chance to alter status of kashmir.i am more worried about our Kashmir because I don't think that India will give us time.if they give us 5 to 7 years,we can rebuild and we can destroy their army if we make right strategies.we need time.we should think with our mind.heart says go to war but it's not the right decision.

Realities for Pakistan is different from that of India. Pakistan was in the middle of WoT, followed by two incompetent and corrupt leaders. Additionally, west was favorable toward India in term of trade, visa and being chummy due to China situation. There is catching up to do for Pakistan but India is not the right example. Indian have there own situation and issues.