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You cant fight india with a weak economy ...

Very well said. However, do you really think we are 'Muslims', especially those whose calls are answered by Allah? and do you further believe that engaging India for Kashmir would be a holy war in our intentions?

Yes. We are the chosen Muslims.

Pakistanis did wage Jihad in Kashmir when Kashmiri Pandits were going through genocide under indian occupation in Jammu and Kashmir.

Allah likes faith good deeds and I do not think Allah likes cowardice or corruption.
Hijrat, Badar, Ohd Sulah e Hudabia all have lessons if want to learn.

and your point is?
 
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Yes. We are the chosen Muslims.

Pakistanis did wage Jihad in Kashmir when Kashmiri Pandits were going through genocide under indian occupation in Jammu and Kashmir.



and your point is?
Prepare in all aspects get ready. Get rid of corruption, cowardice and devise a plan a good plan not full of pure emotions and poor planning like in 65 and 99. When I refer to cowardice it is the cowardice of leaders not fighters.
 
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Prepare in all aspects get ready. Get rid of corruption, cowardice and devise a plan a good plan not full of pure emotions and poor planning like in 65 and 99. When I refer to cowardice it is the cowardice of leaders not fighters.

There is never a perfect plan of war. Be it 65 71 99 or 2019. Its all about on whose hands is written the Glory of it all.


Wassup Syed Bhayya PdfUddin?
 
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I haven's read all the posts. someone might have already pointed all this.

there was country named Vietnam. half of it was fighting with itself. Then largest civil war in asia. Then there was the largest superpower came at it with its full power, allies, and immence ruthlessness.

But they were Vietnamese, a nation that had a history of fighting from mangols to french with bravery outmatched only by chechen in recent times.

They went through tremendous destruction and they suffered more than any other in recent history. I mean chemical weapons were thrown at their babies.

They had no economy, or oil. They had very limited help from outsiders. Yet they send back the superpower, her many friends, and today they are far richer and developed than Pakistan who did not go all the way against a little power called india with full heart. Pakistan gave up in few weeks while they still had the resources, Vietnamese did not gave up in few years while they ran out of resources and were destroyed to the core.

This is because even we became freed from india, we continued to live with their primitive indian culture to varying degree. Indian culture creates cowards. It always did. May be its time let go that culture. May be it is times to cut emotional ties with indian muslims who are contrary to our wishful thinking, are genuinely loyal to india since they belong to various Indian races with their own strong ethnic attachments whether "certain segments of society" in Pakistan accept it or not.We must leave all things Indians beginning with Indian movies, music, sari, and so on. The inner lust and craving for "other brown people" have to go by those who have such "skin color based attachments. This idol of skin color has to go so that Allah can take its place so that we connect based on our and other's relationship with Allah rather then something else. We have to become secure enough regardless of our skin tones (since that varies widely in Pakistan from person to person) to connect with other muslims majority countries with confidence, respect yet assertiveness. SO that some of their positive cultural elements might replace our existing ones. For that indian cultural elements have to go including urdu as far as possible. Since such connection will keep us stuck in a south Asian culture that is most coward than any other. That's the real problem.

We might have to adopt the language of Quran as our mother tongue just like Lebanese and Berbers have done. NOT because it will make us brave, though it might due its barakah if
Allah permits but at least it will help us create a separate sense of self, of a truly independent nation which will then lay the seed of true separate nationalism of the kind that made Vietnamese face their vastly superior enemies.

We need to develop a separate unique Pakistani sense of self that is based on just Islam and nothing pre-islamic. Along with it unique Pakistani identity and nationalism like that of Turkey will help generate those behaviors which are referred to as as "the warriors ones" rather "man into lady making culture of india".

Free from indian ways and culture we will be able to better help all muslims including indian muslims should the need arises, with much better and independent sense of self and energy.

We have to become a new unique Pakistan within ourselvs so that we are truely free inside of us just like we are truely free outside from india.

Only free can fight since they are free to fight and win. They are free to take things to logical conclusions since they have values that tell them where to go rather than past created inner forces resulting from having a shared history with the very enemy we want to set ourselves free from.

Only free from india can free their nation from india. Freedom does not ends at borders, nor it starts there, it begins in our mind first, then it is enacted in our thinking, mannerism and eventually in behaviors. Or we stop doing the old behaviors such as leaving indian ways and things and then what we do will shape our mind into a new sense of self. We will then become something wonderful, something else entirely. Whatever works.
 
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You can't let the enemies rape your sisters and daughters and keep crying that you don't have a strong economy. The Mujahideens of Ghazw-e-badr were short in everything and ghazw-e-uhad and Khandak,.

If you study the fatah-makkah, it was basically a fight that started for a revenge for Hazrat Ali, and here instead of avenging our brothers and sisters we are waiting for a Strong economy.

Not only that, if we look back to 1947, our Great Quaid never waited for a stronger economy to stop the enemy in Kashmir. The forces were ordered to move in without considering the condition....

NOW PLZ STOP THIS BS of STRONG ECONOMY...
We are under attack and we need to answer the attack, Kashmir is Pakistan,.. Its just like they attacked Lahore or Sialkot,. so if they start attacking Lahore, we'll be waiting to get a stronger economy ???? You claim Kashmir then you have to act as if a part of PAkistan is attacked and if you don't claim Kashmir, well then let the Indians hunt the muslims there and never ask for Kashmir again.
 
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