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Quite possibly. The lack of initial naval blockade to the Area of Operations left the Iranians a lot of opportunities to sneak in arms ,ammunition and operatives.

What exactly were the Saudi's thinking, it will be a walk in the park, go there for breakfast and be back home for dinner with the puppet installed.

Even if they had blockaded the ports for months before the war started, hitting from sky or blockading the ports not going to win any war, no matter who is fighting who, just ask the Americans, Americans had both foot's on ground and air power, over a trillion dollars spend and 1000s of lives lost on both sides and they only menage to control only parts of Afghanistan.
 
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What exactly were the Saudi's thinking, it will be a walk in the park, go there for breakfast and be back home for dinner with the puppet installed.

Even if they had blockaded the ports for months before the war started, hitting from sky or blockading the ports not going to win any war, no matter who is fighting who, just ask the Americans, Americans had both foot's on ground and air power, over a trillion dollars spend and 1000s of lives lost on both sides and they only menage to control only parts of Afghanistan.
I cannot speak for the Saudis but the issue with Afghanistan is much more complicated than just the ineffectiveness of US power. Fighting through and occupying enemy territory is easy as pie for US forces; doing that with minimal collateral damage is what takes longer. Then , when you dont stay to clean up what is left..things will always revert back to what they were.
 
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If someone bombed your country America 24/7, and Iran completely supplied their weapons to kill your people then what would you say my friend?

If instead of the US that oppressed country be ' the poorest country in MENA ' where 99% are Muslims and they're getting killed by hands of Masonic Muslim killer saudis and americans directly and indirectly then what?!

Yes we play victim role as long as long tyrants live.

Suffice it to say we had WW2 where I live and we got bombed by both the bad and the good guys (Total deaths in the Netherlands 210,000, of which 16,000 by famine, 6,700 military (all causes of death) and 187,000 by war action and crimes against humanity (of which about 80,000 probably non-Jewish).

I said what I wanted to say to you already earlier on and will not be drawn into a pointless argument.
 
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Ok Guys! it is official. Noor missile is a shoulder-fired rocket. However, the only difference between this shoulder fired missile and the other normal ones is that it is mounted on the shoulder of a truck!

I'm speechless! :disagree:

US warships sent to area where Iran-backed rebels attacked Saudi-led coalition ship
By Lucas Tomlinson

Published October 03, 2016
FoxNews.com
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The USS Mason in 2011. (AP)

The U.S. Navy dispatched three warships near the southern coast of Yemen after four rockets hit and nearly sank a United Arab Emirates auxiliary ship Saturday, two U.S. defense officials told Fox News.

Iran-backed Houthi rebels in Yemen claimed responsibility for the attack. There were no reported injuries to the Emerati crew. Al Jazeera reported on video of the attack.

Iran supplied the Houthis with the “shoulder-fired rockets” that nearly destroyed the UAE ship, according to two U.S. officials. It was not immediately clear what type of rocket the rebels may have fired. The ship was formerly contracted to the U.S., two defense officials confirmed, and at one time an American company owned the vessel.

Military officials sent the Navy warships to the southern end of the Bab al-Mandab Strait, also known as the Mandab Strait, which connects the Red Sea to the Gulf of Aden. Two U.S. Navy guided-missile destroyers, USS Mason and USS Nitze, armed with Tomahawk cruise missiles, Harpoon anti-ship missiles and an assortment of deck-mounted high-caliber machine guns, joined USS Ponce, a floating staging ship which includes a compliment of special operations forces, according to one official.

Describing the U.S. response to the Houthis and their Iranian backers, one official said, “This is a show of force,” adding, “It’s concerning anytime this happens.”

The U.S. Navy keeps a high state of readiness in the Persian Gulf and nearby Gulf of Aden south of Yemen, according to the official. It was not immediately clear if any official guidance had been issued to raise that posture.

“Sending the warships to the area is a message that the primary goal of the Navy is to ensure that shipping continues unimpeded in the strait and the vicinity,” said a U.S. defense official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity.

The attacked vessel is an Australian built high-speed logistics ship leased to the UAE, Reuters reported.

The UAE is part of a Saudi Arabia-led Arab coalition in Yemen fighting the Houthis in a civil war that began in 2015. The United States has provided support to the Saudi-led coalition in the past, including intelligence support and mid-air refueling tankers.

Crews are towing the UAE ship to a port in nearby Eritrea, according to two U.S. defense officials.

The United States strongly condemned the “unprovoked attack” by the Houthis in a statement Sunday. “We call on the Houthi-Saleh groups to immediately cease attacks against all vessels. These provocative actions risk exacerbating the current conflict and narrow the prospects for a peaceful settlement,” State Department spokesman John Kirby said.

In April, the U.S. Navy intercepted a weapons shipment from Iran to Yemen to aid the Houthis ahead of President Obama’s visit to Saudi Arabia.

A year earlier, the U.S. Navy dispatched the aircraft carrier USS Theodore Roosevelt to shadow an Iranian convoy which had weapons displayed brazenly on its decks. The Iranian convoy turned around and returned home before it reached Yemen, U.S. defense officials said at the time.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/1...rebels-attacked-saudi-led-coalition-ship.html
 
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Foxnews ... enough said.

Nevertheless, some folks were close enough to the vessel to shoot the video footage. Technically, that places them within shooting range of a lot of different rocket propelled weapons. A Noor missile has a range of at least 35km in the shortest range version. It is a fact that since whoever was out on the water was able to catch the missile impact on video, so they knew when they had to be where to film the impact and the put their boat out there.. Personally, if I had a landbased truck mounted NOOR missile, near a small strait, I wouldn't want to risk being anywhere near my target vessel. But that's just me. They made a nice video, with footage shot by multiple camara teams (launch area, target area) at the same time and then editted together.

No one sends a high speed vessel for only 10 crates of food an aircraft can easily carry a lot more because food is light and the transpiration costs will be cheaper and faster!!!!

Swift HSV-2 cargo capacity:
  • Approximately 605 long tons (615 t)
  • Approximately 28,740 sq ft (2,670 m2) cargo deck
By comparison, C-130 Hercules
  • C-130E/H/J cargo hold: length, 40 feet (12.19 m); width, 119 inches (3.02 m); height, 9 feet (2.74 m). Rear ramp: length, 123 inches (3.12 m); width, 119 inches (3.02 m)
  • C-130J-30 cargo hold: length, 55 feet (16.76 m); width, 119 inches (3.02 m); height, 9 feet (2.74 m). Rear ramp: length, 123 inches (3.12 m); width, 119 inches (3.02 m)
  • Useful load: 72,000 lb (33,000 kg) for C130H)
So, that's 19 flights by weight or 74 flights by deck area (C-130H)

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http://rekaonafricamercy.blogspot.nl/2012/05/visit-to-hsv2-swift.html

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Visitors climb aboard an armored personnel carrier in the Swift's lower bay area. The ship is capable of loading and unloading an array of military vehicles, including the 60-ton M-A1 Abrams tank. Photo by Sgt. 1st Class Doug Sample
http://archive.defense.gov/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=26931

Good radar reflector with those slablike vertical sides
 
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And no casualties according to UAE! Whom are they kidding?

They probably should sell it as scrap metal!

@yavar @SOHEIL Isn't Noor supposed to hit its target at water level? It seems like it has hit the target almost 4m above water. Same was the case with that Israeli frigate. It is much easier to sink a ship if it hit the body at water level.
 
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And no casualties according to UAE! Whom are they kidding?

They probably should sell it as scrap metal!

@yavar @SOHEIL Isn't Noor supposed to hit its target at water level? It seems like it has hit the target almost 4m above water. Same was the case with that Israeli frigate. It is much easier to sink a ship if it hit the body at water level.
"The UAE government has detailed the crew size and makeup for the ship at the time of the attack. 24 civilians of six nationalities manned the vessel. These included ten Indians, seven Ukranians, four Egyptians, one Jordanian, one Filipino, and one Lithuanian. No official manifest of passengers onboard, or details as to exactly how many were injured, killed, rescued or lost, has been made publically available."
http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...hsv-2-swift-following-attack-off-yemeni-coast

Nothing of the bow area damage is bent outward from explosive force. Which suggests it is mainly fire damage (she's made of aluminium, not steel).


My area of interest would be amidship port side
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Current position
http://yemen.liveuamap.com/en/2016/5-october-uaes-highspeed-logistics-vessel-swift-after-it
 
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"The UAE government has detailed the crew size and makeup for the ship at the time of the attack. 24 civilians of six nationalities manned the vessel. These included ten Indians, seven Ukranians, four Egyptians, one Jordanian, one Filipino, and one Lithuanian. No official manifest of passengers onboard, or details as to exactly how many were injured, killed, rescued or lost, has been made publically available."
http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...hsv-2-swift-following-attack-off-yemeni-coast

Nothing of the bow area damage is bent outward from explosive force. Which suggests it is mainly fire damage (she's made of aluminium, not steel).


My area of interest would be amidship port side
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Current position
http://yemen.liveuamap.com/en/2016/5-october-uaes-highspeed-logistics-vessel-swift-after-it
And not even one UAE citizen?That's interesting.

What seem to be a damage on amidship seem to be present on the starboard side as well.
 
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I read 62 killed sailors & mercenaries
 
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"The UAE government has detailed the crew size and makeup for the ship at the time of the attack. 24 civilians of six nationalities manned the vessel. These included ten Indians, seven Ukranians, four Egyptians, one Jordanian, one Filipino, and one Lithuanian. No official manifest of passengers onboard, or details as to exactly how many were injured, killed, rescued or lost, has been made publically available."
http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...hsv-2-swift-following-attack-off-yemeni-coast

Nothing of the bow area damage is bent outward from explosive force. Which suggests it is mainly fire damage (she's made of aluminium, not steel).


My area of interest would be amidship port side
d445.jpg


Current position
http://yemen.liveuamap.com/en/2016/5-october-uaes-highspeed-logistics-vessel-swift-after-it
I wonder if the ship worth repairing (For UAE) ?

Iran stop destabilizing the region, sincerely the rest of the world.
What's the fun i that ?
 
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I read 62 killed sailors & mercenaries
Where do you read mercenaries (source)? The ship normally is government (but not navy) owned and civilian operated, so that explains the compisition of the crew of 24.

And no casualties according to UAE! Whom are they kidding?

They probably should sell it as scrap metal!

@yavar @SOHEIL Isn't Noor supposed to hit its target at water level? It seems like it has hit the target almost 4m above water. Same was the case with that Israeli frigate. It is much easier to sink a ship if it hit the body at water level.
As for sinking a catemaran: even if a missile did manage to cause a waterline breach on one side, then there is always the second hull or float that is intact. That is different from a conventional hulled ship. Think about how that works with e.g. Independence class LCS (=trimaran)

Besides, it was a sea skimming missile. Sea skimming anti-ship missiles try to fly as low as is practically achievable, which is almost always below 50 meters (150 ft), and is often down towards 5 meters (15 ft). You can't go much lower, not in the last place because at sea there are swells and waves.

Harpoon about to impact target ship. Main deck is at least 2 decks up from waterline > +4-5m from sea level.
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https://defencyclopedia.com/2014/10/18/how-to-shoot-down-anti-ship-missiles-part-1-introduction/

Naval Tomahawk hitting moving ship target.
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http://www.raytheon.com/news/feature/tomahawk_moving_target_sea.html

Mobile ship target hit by inert LRASM
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http://phys.org/news/2013-09-anti-ship-missile-prototype-successfully-solo.html

Russian target vessel hit by 2 (different) missiles in quick succession.
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http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/watch-these-russian-missiles-completely-tear-through-a-1636002082

Exocet hits target: Main deck is at least 2 decks up from waterline > +4-5m from sea level.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exocet

Perry class cross section: waterline to main deck = 2 decks.
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