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Deino, do u know what the last few sentence says? The Chinese 4 must for air combat. :enjoy:


Pardon ?? No, but I'm eager to learn with the help of some helpful guys ... Care to explain please?
 
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For air combat, it must be fast, deceptive, accurate and lethal. I think J-20 fulfilled all these criteria. Maybe song wencong taught him.


Ok. ... thanks. But back to this model: Am I wrong or does it indeed has WS-20s??
 
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Model of Y-20B mounted with the WS-20 engine
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The Y-20 will acquire a Chinese engine by 2018 at the earliest

By Henri Kenhmann - East Pendulum - 13 March 2017

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The Chinese military transport aircraft Y-20 will soon acquire a native engine, its chief engineer said on Friday, March 10. TANG Zhanghong (唐长红), also a member of the Political Consultative Conference, is currently attending the 5th session of the 12th National People's Congress in Beijing and revealed several details about the Y-20 program in an interview with the local media.

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TANG Zhanghong (唐长红), chief engineer of the Y-20 program.

"The Y-20 is still in the operational testing phase," TANG told reporters at Huaxi City Daily , "the first operational feedback shows that customers are very satisfied."

The first two Y-20s, registered as 11051 and 11052, were delivered to the Chinese Air Force on June 15, 2016 and were admitted to active duty a few weeks later in the 4th Transport Division based in Qionglai, Sichuan province.

This is the first time the Chinese Air Force has a locally designed 200-ton transport aircraft, with the sole "regret" that the aircraft is still equipped with a Russian D-30KP-2 engine, for lack of the Chinese equivalent.

The chief engineer of Y-20 specifies for this the schedule of the Chinese motorization endowment: "You will see Y-20 equipped with Chinese engine next year (2018) or the year after. Without going into further details"

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A Y-20, equipped with four Russian engines, was on demonstration flight at the last Zhuhai Air Show.

Two Chinese engines under development may however correspond to the next Y-20 propulsion.
The first is the WS-18, an unfavorable ("sinisée") version of D-30KP-2, which thus adopts a performance similar to 12,000 kgf of thrust. This engine that could eventually replace its Russian counterpart on the H-6K bomber, for example, was delivered in September 2014, but its latest status is not made public.

The second Chinese engine is the one targeted from the start by the Y-20 program, namely the WS-20 . It is a turbofan with a high dilution rate with a thrust estimated between 13,200 and 16,300 kgf, whose development would be based on the core-engine of WS-10.

It should be noted that according to Chinese sources, the WS-20 has just been dismantled from the 760 flight test bench of China Flight Test Establishment (CFTE) after a long testing campaign started in November 2012. It should therefore continue its flight tests on a new prototype of Y-20.

In terms of timing, the WS-20 appears to be more in line with an entry into service around 2018 or 2019, as indicated by Chief Engineer TANG. It is also known that Xi'an Aero-Engine Corporation, which is responsible for mass production of the engine, has been studying since 2015 the installation of a Pulse Line assembly line with the help of the North-West Polytechnic University.

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The WS-18 made its first flight on a flying test bench of CFTE in September 2014.

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A WS-20 mounted on a CFTE test rig.

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A Y-20 model with four WS-20 engines (Photo: AVIC)

One should however expect the institutional elements, or spotter photos, to know which of the two Chinese engines will equip the Y-20 first.

To be continued.

Henri K.

Appendix: Our articles on the Y-20 program can be found here .
 
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Newly produced Y-20
@OedoSoldier 2017.04.09

From Chinese site (video, cn): http://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/5yC7G8xnlsaMHZevqFeNUQ

Nice, but IMO overall the manufacturing rate in china is much too low !:undecided:

How many of them are operational? We know 11051 & 11052 confirmed + two more un-serialled ones from Zhuhai (however reportedly on of them the final prototype) ... so this would be the 5th delivered to the 4. Transport Division.

Similar the rate at CAC producing J-10s and J-20s is much too low and even worse is the rate at SAC.
 
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Nice, but IMO overall the manufacturing rate in china is much too low !:undecided:

How many of them are operational? We know 11051 & 11052 confirmed + two more un-serialled ones from Zhuhai (however reportedly on of them the final prototype) ... so this would be the 5th delivered to the 4. Transport Division.

Similar the rate at CAC producing J-10s and J-20s is much too low and even worse is the rate at SAC.
Some possibilities, simply conjecture:

(i) new products, so still adapting thus low rate
(ii) indeed still within the LRIP stage for various unknown reasons
(iii) build variety stuffs at the same time, so resources are not focused upon certain products
(iv) play quite safe, be very cautious over quality, to the extent principally is willing to trade off with the production speed; not in hurry for quantity
(v) all above are incorrect, for the actual quantity produced more than those made known

And for being slow or fast, in comparison to what? :D What's the benchmark?
 
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Over stretching the capacity for no reason is no good. China is in peace time and no foresee of mass invasion of others. Do we immediately need 20 Y-20? No.

Plus with delivery of almost 10 second hand IL-76 and many Y-9 enter service. PLAAF airborne is not as lack of transport as 5 years ago.
 
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