Y-20 heavy transport aircraft News & Discussions

[LKJ86]

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[Deino]

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Via @空军新闻 from Weixin

4th or 13th Transport Division?

 

[Figaro]

China's Yun-20 large transport aircraft holds great potential
(China Military Online) 15:54, July 01, 2020

BEIJING, June 30 -- Since the outbreak of the COVID-19 epidemic, China's domestically developed Yun-20 large transport aircraft has carried out missions abroad for many times, successively delivering anti-epidemic supplies to Pakistan, Thailand and other countries. Recently, it made its maiden flight to Russia to transport the PLA Guard of Honor to participate in the military parade staged in Moscow's Red Square. Military expert Chen Hong said that in the future, the Yun-20 transport aircraft is sure to significantly improve the combat capability of the PLA troops.

A solid backing to the PLA Air Force

In the modern warfare with wider war zones and faster war pace, countries all over the world are trying to strengthen the quick response and long-range delivery capabilities of their troops, to quickly transport their troops and weapons to areas in urgent need and save time for the reinforcement of follow-up troops. Under this situation, the armed forces of all countries are eager to equip large-scale heavy-duty transport aircraft.

According to the information from Tang Changhong, chief designer of the Yun-20, the maximum take-off weight of the aircraft is 220 tons, and the maximum loading capacity is 66 tons.

"To build up a modern PLA Air Force with strong combat capability, it is quite necessary to equip large transport aircraft like Yun-20, the speed of which is more than three times that of high-speed rail trains and more than 20 times that of marine transportation. It can get the whole combat units rallied in the shortest time, greatly contributing to the rapid deployment of troops and enhancing combat capability", said Chen Hong.

It still holds great development potential

"The Yun-20 transport aircraft is quite promising for future development." According to Chen Hong's introduction, the Yun-20 transport aircraft is currently powered by Russian D-30KP-2 engines, which is likely to be replaced by WS-20, the domestically developed new-generation large-scale jet engine, in the future. It can provide more than 15 tons of thrust.

"In recent years, China's fighter engine R&D technology has achieved leapfrog development, breaking through the unimaginable bottlenecks. New engines like WS-20 will also be used to equip China's large military transport aircraft in the near future and play a more prominent role", added Chen Hong.

In addition, the Yun-20 can also be adapted as an aerial tanker or an antisubmarine aircraft. With a payload of up to 66 tons, it can become an aerial gas station, which can cooperate with fighters skillfully in aerial refueling operations. As an antisubmarine aircraft, it can carry a variety of light and heavy antisubmarine equipment. With its advantages of heavy weight, long endurance and long range, its performance will be more powerful.

At present, China's Air Force is in urgent need of Yun-20 transport aircraft. Chen Hong said that in view of China's current goal of building up a strategic air force, several hundred Yun-20s are needed at least. "It marks a magnificent progress in the history of China's Air Force. I believe there will be even more advanced aircraft to equip China's Air Force in the future", added Chen.

http://en.people.cn/n3/2020/0701/c90000-9705950.html

 

[samsara]

China's Yun-20 large transport aircraft holds great potential
(China Military Online) 15:54, July 01, 2020

BEIJING, June 30 -- Since the outbreak of the COVID-19 epidemic, China's domestically developed Yun-20 large transport aircraft has carried out missions abroad for many times, successively delivering anti-epidemic supplies to Pakistan, Thailand and other countries. Recently, it made its maiden flight to Russia to transport the PLA Guard of Honor to participate in the military parade staged in Moscow's Red Square. Military expert Chen Hong said that in the future, the Yun-20 transport aircraft is sure to significantly improve the combat capability of the PLA troops.

A solid backing to the PLA Air Force

In the modern warfare with wider war zones and faster war pace, countries all over the world are trying to strengthen the quick response and long-range delivery capabilities of their troops, to quickly transport their troops and weapons to areas in urgent need and save time for the reinforcement of follow-up troops. Under this situation, the armed forces of all countries are eager to equip large-scale heavy-duty transport aircraft.

According to the information from Tang Changhong, chief designer of the Yun-20, the maximum take-off weight of the aircraft is 220 tons, and the maximum loading capacity is 66 tons.

"To build up a modern PLA Air Force with strong combat capability, it is quite necessary to equip large transport aircraft like Yun-20, the speed of which is more than three times that of high-speed rail trains and more than 20 times that of marine transportation. It can get the whole combat units rallied in the shortest time, greatly contributing to the rapid deployment of troops and enhancing combat capability", said Chen Hong.

It still holds great development potential

"The Yun-20 transport aircraft is quite promising for future development." According to Chen Hong's introduction, the Yun-20 transport aircraft is currently powered by Russian D-30KP-2 engines, which is likely to be replaced by WS-20, the domestically developed new-generation large-scale jet engine, in the future. It can provide more than 15 tons of thrust.

"In recent years, China's fighter engine R&D technology has achieved leapfrog development, breaking through the unimaginable bottlenecks. New engines like WS-20 will also be used to equip China's large military transport aircraft in the near future and play a more prominent role", added Chen Hong.

In addition, the Yun-20 can also be adapted as an aerial tanker or an antisubmarine aircraft. With a payload of up to 66 tons, it can become an aerial gas station, which can cooperate with fighters skillfully in aerial refueling operations. As an antisubmarine aircraft, it can carry a variety of light and heavy antisubmarine equipment. With its advantages of heavy weight, long endurance and long range, its performance will be more powerful.

At present, China's Air Force is in urgent need of Yun-20 transport aircraft. Chen Hong said that in view of China's current goal of building up a strategic air force, several hundred Yun-20s are needed at least. "It marks a magnificent progress in the history of China's Air Force. I believe there will be even more advanced aircraft to equip China's Air Force in the future", added Chen.

http://en.people.cn/n3/2020/0701/c90000-9705950.html

This paragraph should be put in BOLD and with COLOUR for an all-out highlight — and let one believe following his own faith as China won't provide all the hard proofs as many may demand!

"In recent years, China's fighter engine R&D technology has achieved leapfrog development, breaking through the unimaginable bottlenecks. New engines like WS-20 will also be used to equip China's large military transport aircraft in the near future and play a more prominent role", added Chen Hong.

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And some one should inform the webmaster at the “China Military” website that he needs to provide the better readability for use through the mobile devices such as mobile phone. The current format there is not pleasant for reading! But the People's Daily website has much better readibility!

Just compare the website readibility of above and below links to see on your own!

China's Yun-20 large transport aircraft holds great potential
http://eng.chinamil.com.cn/view/2020-06/30/content_9843756.htm

 

[Figaro]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1276554184255471617

Have we still not come to any conclusion on what type of engine this is?

 

[Deino]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1282241381444882433

 

[LKJ86]

From weibo, said to be taken yesterday on the way returning from Moscow. Bogda peak is part of Tian Shan(Heavenly mountain) range in XinJiang.

Via @zhangmx969 from Weibo

 

[Deino]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1284383975750991872

 

[Kingslayerr]

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I see this as the replacement of pakistans heavy weight lifter. How many Y20s has been delivered?

 

[SD 10]

I see this as the replacement of pakistans heavy weight lifter. How many Y20s has been delivered?

but will china export it?

 

[Figaro]

but will china export it?

I'm sure China will export it ... the Y-20 doesn't hold any strategic technology like the J-20.

I see this as the replacement of pakistans heavy weight lifter. How many Y20s has been delivered?

At least 17 ... http://chinese-military-aviation.blogspot.com/p/gallery-i.html#Y-20. Most likely a couple of times more.

 

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I'm sure China will export it ... the Y-20 doesn't hold any strategic technology like the J-20.

Personally I highly doubt that any Y-20 will be exported to anyone including Pakistan anytime soon.
Remember China wants to have a total of more than a 1000 of all the Y-20 variants.

"I can't tell you the exact time planned for delivery, but ... it will be carried out very soon," Zhu Qian, head of Aviation Industry Corp of China's Large Aircraft Development Office, said at a technology exhibition in Beijing.

"More than 1,000 Y-20s will be needed," he said, adding that the figure was calculated based on the experience of the United States and Russia. Both countries have used heavy-lifting transport aircraft for years.

Zhu said the military and many civilian sectors will benefit greatly from delivery of the Y-20.

http://europe.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2016-06/03/content_25600139.htm

I don't know what is China's production capacity of the Y-20 but I highly doubt that it's currently anywhere near enough to reach that number several years from now.

 

[Figaro]

Personally I highly doubt that any Y-20 will be exported to anyone including Pakistan anytime soon.
Remember China wants to have a total of more than a 1000 of all the Y-20 variants.

"I can't tell you the exact time planned for delivery, but ... it will be carried out very soon," Zhu Qian, head of Aviation Industry Corp of China's Large Aircraft Development Office, said at a technology exhibition in Beijing.

"More than 1,000 Y-20s will be needed," he said, adding that the figure was calculated based on the experience of the United States and Russia. Both countries have used heavy-lifting transport aircraft for years.

Zhu said the military and many civilian sectors will benefit greatly from delivery of the Y-20.

http://europe.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2016-06/03/content_25600139.htm

I don't know what is China's production capacity of the Y-20 but I highly doubt that it's currently anywhere near enough to reach that number several years from now.

I don't think production capacity is at all an issue with the Y-20 ... I think right now the production may not be very high because the PLAAF wants to replace the WS-18s with the WS-20. Either way, an export variant will feature the WS-20.

 

[Beast]

Personally I highly doubt that any Y-20 will be exported to anyone including Pakistan anytime soon.
Remember China wants to have a total of more than a 1000 of all the Y-20 variants.

"I can't tell you the exact time planned for delivery, but ... it will be carried out very soon," Zhu Qian, head of Aviation Industry Corp of China's Large Aircraft Development Office, said at a technology exhibition in Beijing.

"More than 1,000 Y-20s will be needed," he said, adding that the figure was calculated based on the experience of the United States and Russia. Both countries have used heavy-lifting transport aircraft for years.

Zhu said the military and many civilian sectors will benefit greatly from delivery of the Y-20.

http://europe.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2016-06/03/content_25600139.htm

I don't know what is China's production capacity of the Y-20 but I highly doubt that it's currently anywhere near enough to reach that number several years from now.

The 1000 target Includes export, commercial freight but mostly a exaggerate number. If PLAAF has 33 Y-20 now. It can easily beat any strategic lifting nation besides US and Russia.

Not even UK and France combined lifter can beat the Chinese. We shall all remember PLAAF has estimated at least 50-60 Y-8/Y-9 in it's current inventory. Each of it can lift 20-25tons cargo.

 

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mostly a exaggerate number.

Not exaggerated at all, that was not Minnie Chan that said "more than 1000 will be needed", that was the head of AVIC who said that, also he didn't include exports in this number:
"The manager expects that China will need at least 1,000 of the huge aircraft".

Frankly I will trust the words of the head of AVIC over the words of any one else including in this forum any day.
Now obviously as AVIC have said that number also includes civilian variants of the Y-20 but remember if needed these civilian transporters can be used to transport military cargo.

Not even UK and France combined lifter can beat the Chinese.

Honestly the UK and France are irrelevant , note that AVIC only compared to what the US & Russia have, that is what they are looking up to according to AVIC, I don't know what is the total lifting capacity of Russia, but the US military has a total of 900 aerial refuelers & large cargo transporters, I didn't include the civilian transporters of the US (if they have them).

Also remember since China is the number one trading nation , that means they need hundreds cargo transporters for civilian purposes, also several years from now some of the older cargo airplanes will have to be replaced by newer ones, it makes sense to replace any old airplane with the Y-20. So short term I don't think China will export it in any significant numbers , at best they would export maybe 10 or less, that is just a guess.