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Xi’s Submarine Sale Raises Indian Ocean Nuclear Clash Risk

China’s Xi in Pakistan to cement huge infrastructure projects, submarine sales

ISLAMABAD — Chinese President Xi Jinping arrives in Pakistan on Monday to seal deals for $46 billion in economy-transforming investments in the country’s crumbling infrastructure, a move that will extend Beijing’s commercial and military reach to the mouth of the Persian Gulf and allow China to supplant the United States as Pakistan biggest investor.

U.S. investment between 2010 and 2014 in Pakistan totaled $5 billion.

The lion’s share of China;s 15-year investment program, $34 billion, will be go commercial power generation projects that by 2018 could bring an end to the crippling electricity shortages that for the last five years have cost Pakistan about 2 per cent in annual gross domestic product growth.

A further $12 billion will be invested in the Pakistan-China Economic Corridor, a network of highways, railways and pipelines that would link the Chinese province of Xinjiang to a Chinese-financed and -operated commercial seaport at Gwadar, near Pakistan’s border with Iran.

The corridor is an extension of China’s $40 billion Silk Road initiative, a flagship project of President Xi’s administration intended to provide an overland link to Europe and to expand already existing sea lanes to Asia, Africa and the Middle East through Chinese-run ports already operating in Bangladesh, Burma and Sri Lanka. The initiative also aims to reduce China’s reliance on the Malacca Straits, near Singapore, as a conduit for its westbound trade, and make it less susceptible to a possible naval embargo on its Pacific coast.

China would use the pipelines to import crude oil and petroleum products from Persian Gulf producers. Prior to the 2011 imposition of U.S. and international sanctions on Iran, China was one of the largest importers of Iranian oil and is keen to reinvigorate energy trade with Tehran, in anticipation of the lifting of the sanctions as a result of a proposed deal on Iran’s nuclear program.

China has offered to finance the construction of Pakistan’s stretch of a pipeline to carry Iranian natural gas imports that would fuel the generation of 3,500 megawatts of electricity.

“It is difficult to overestimate what these planned Chinese investments and assistance mean to Pakistan. These are projects of truly strategic nature that serve both the interests of China and Pakistan,” said Arif Rafiq, president of Vizier Consulting, which offers advice on political and strategic risk in South Asia and the Middle East.

The planned Chinese investments dwarf American efforts, which included about $2 billion to help finance the installation of 1,500 megawatts of electricity generation capacity. China plans to invest $15.5 billion to supply 10,400 megawatts from mostly coal-fueled power generation projects by 2018, and a further $18.3 billion to add 6,600 megawatts capacity more after that.

“China is a filling a void left by a departing U.S., which never quite had the interest, aptitude, or political support at home to pursue projects of strategic significance in Pakistan,” said Rafiq, who’s also an adjunct scholar at the Middle East Institute, a Washington think tank.

Xi will also finalize the sale of eight conventionally powered Chinese submarines to Pakistan, at a cost of between $5 and $6 billion, and may sweeten the deal by offering to build a submarine refueling and maintenance station at Gwadar that would also be available to the Chinese submarines.

China has yet to approve Pakistan’s request last year to acquire four nuclear-powered submarines capable of launching ballistic missiles carrying nuclear and conventional warheads.

The Chinese investment in Pakistan is viewed with concern by neighboring India, which has fought wars with both countries.

“The submarine and Gwadar port deals are intended to contain India and help China project powers in the Indian Ocean, which is increasing critical for Chinese maritime ambitions. The close defense relationship with Pakistan not only constrains India’s options, but also allows China to achieve its strategic aim in the region,” said Harsh V. Pant, a professor of international relations at King’s College London, a British university.

India has begun trials of a domestically-developed, nuclear weapons-capable submarine, which would complete its triumvirate of air, land and sea-based strategic forces targeting China and Pakistan.

China is playing its cards cautiously, ahead of a May visit by Indian Prime Minister Nirenda Modi because “many in Beijing believe the Modi administration is their best bet to achieve a lasting solution to their vexed border disputes,” Pant said.

“Balancing its all-weather partnership with Pakistan with a stable major-power relationship with India will be a priority for Beijing,” he said.


ISLAMABAD: China’s Xi in Pakistan to cement huge infrastructure projects, submarine sales | Asia | McClatchy DC

Mind boggling article!
 
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China has yet to approve Pakistan’s request last year to acquire four nuclear-powered submarines capable of launching ballistic missiles carrying nuclear and conventional warheads.

Never heard of that Part ? :what::undecided:
 
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Off course not, they prefer to attack and maim non-hindus in their own country.. amateurs!..

Do they need submarines for that? :undecided:

those subs are no match for Indian navy ASW aircraft

ASW aircraft don't help much when a submarine is firing cruise missiles from hundreds of kilometers away.

What are you going to do, search the entire ocean?

That's why Pakistan is looking to use these submarines to build their second-strike capability, cruise missiles have huge range, and can carry nuclear warheads. And the submarines could be anywhere in the vast ocean.
 
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Beijing eyes bigger arms exports after Pakistan deal, experts say

by Angela Meng and Minnie Chan

PUBLISHED : Sunday, 26 April, 2015, 5:28am
UPDATED : Sunday, 26 April, 2015, 9:37am


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Vows by China and Pakistan to deepen security and defence ties will reinforce Beijing's ambitions to increase its arms exports, which could create unease among some countries in the region, especially India, security experts say.

President Xi Jinping made his first state visit to Pakistan last week and met Prime Minister, Nawaz Sharif, with the sides agreeing to boost their partnership to "all-weather levels".

The two nations also decided to step up dialogue between their armed forces, and expand cooperation in defence technology and production.

Three weeks before Xi departed for the trip, Sharif approved a US$5 billion deal to buy eight submarines from China, Reuters reported, quoting an unnamed Pakistani government official as saying, but added the deal had not been finalised. It would be China's largest single sale of submarines, experts say.

The deal would likely encourage Beijing to expand arms exports, said Mathieu Duchatel, head of the China and Global Security Project at the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute, which tracks global military spending and arms sales.

"With progress in its defence industry and strong government support for research and development, China has become a major player in weapons system," Duchatel said. "The success in the deals with Pakistan will make it easier for China to secure markets in the countries in which China has strong defence relationship, as it means that the weapon systems are already tested."

China was the third-largest arms exporter in 2012-13 but has since fallen to fifth place, behind Britain, France, Russia and the United States, according to the institute's research. But it remains the main supplier for Pakistan, delivering half of the country's arms from 2010-14.

Li Jie, a researcher at the PLA Navy's Military Academy, said the submarine deal likely involved the Type 039-class, a diesel-electric vessel that first went into operation in the 1990s. China had sold submarines overseas before, but the deal with Pakistan was the biggest, he said.

"The Type 039-class submarine is equipped with an advanced air-independent propulsion system, which would allow the warship to stay and operate underwater much longer and make it more difficult to be detected by its enemies," Li said.

"The Pakistan Navy will gain a competitive advantage in their underwater fighting capability."

China is pushing for deeper ties with Pakistan amid concerns over Islamabad's ability to maintain security within its own borders. Beijing wants a planned network of roads, railways and energy projects linking Pakistan's deepwater Gwadar port with the Xinjiang region on the mainland.

The corridor would shorten the route for energy imports, bypassing the Strait of Malacca, a bottleneck at risk of blockade in wartime.

Beijing has also expressed concerns about terrorists from Pakistan and Afghanistan entering Xinjiang, and has pledged to help broker talks between political factions in Afghanistan. Pakistan, for its part, is seeking a reliable supplier of advanced weapons amid tensions with India.

"This is a big step forward," said Imtiaz Gul, founder and political analyst for the Centre for Research and Security Studies in Islamabad. "Pakistan does not attract much foreign investment, or much defence and military cooperation from Western countries. Anything that comes Pakistan's way in terms of finance and military hardware helps end Pakistan's international isolation."

But the deal could stoke an already heated arms race in the region. "The proposed sale of eight Type 039 submarines by China to Pakistan is bound to result in India's need to retaliate," said D.S. Rajan, a former director of India's Chennai Centre for China Studies, adding Pakistan would likely equip the submarines with nuclear-tipped missiles.

"India still has no such subs with nuclear-tipped missiles," he said. "India may therefore feel more and more anxious to fill this gap."

Dr Rajeswari Rajagopalan, a defence analyst at the New Delhi-based Observer Research Foundation think tank, agreed the deal would have serious consequences for the region but said it was unlikely to result in increased arms spending on both sides.

"Nevertheless, India has been paying adequate attention in recent years to the acquisition of naval capabilities, including submarines. This is something India has to do irrespective of the China-Pakistan deal," he said.

"If India does not replenish the dwindling submarine force, it will end up having the same number of submarines as Pakistan. And now if this deal goes through, that number will be heavily skewed in favour of Pakistan."

Additional reporting by Teddy Ng


This article appeared in the South China Morning Post print edition as Beijing eyes 'bigger arms exports'


Beijing eyes bigger arms exports after Pakistan deal, experts say | South China Morning Post
 
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What's so funny?

You didn't help them get nukes, even when we gave Pakistan nukes (and missiles/submarines) or when we were destroying you in the Sino-Indian War.

You didn't do it during those times, but you want to do it now. Alright, go ahead. :enjoy:
 
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What's so funny?
As if you produce nukes, go to sleep.

You didn't help them get nukes, even when we gave Pakistan nukes (and missiles/submarines) or when we were destroying you in the Sino-Indian War.

You didn't do it during those times, but you want to do it now. Alright, go ahead. :enjoy:
what Idia has, Pakistan shall have too.
 
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You didn't help them get nukes, even when we gave Pakistan nukes (and missiles/submarines) or when we were destroying you in the Sino-Indian War.

You didn't do it during those times, but you want to do it now. Alright, go ahead. :enjoy:
You see, That is called being responsible not giving Nuke tech like freebies. If we had you'd be stuck negotiating all those SCS issues with those small countries there, not bullying them. So Thank Us.

As for your gloating about destroying us, I expect a TTA to read history before stating crap.
 
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we are helping Pakistan build minimal deterrence abiity, why Indians so angry?
 
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You didn't help them get nukes, even when we gave Pakistan nukes (and missiles/submarines) or when we were destroying you in the Sino-Indian War.

You didn't do it during those times, but you want to do it now. Alright, go ahead. :enjoy:
Because unlike China we are responsible nation. But if china continues to hurt our interests we are free to do same.
 
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You see, That is called being responsible not giving Nuke tech like freebies. If we had you'd be stuck negotiating all those SCS issues with those small countries there, not bullying them. So Thank Us.

As for your gloating about destroying us, I expect a TTA to read history before stating crap.

Yet we are one of the only 5 NPT recognized nuclear powers in the world. :rofl: (Along with the rest of the UNSC P5 members).

We signed the NPT in 1992, anything before that was forgiven. Great isn't it, you say China gave Pakistan nukes, yet we are officially recognized by the UN and the NPT as recognized nuclear power. :azn:

Because unlike China we are responsible nation. But if china continues to hurt our interests we are free to do same.

So shall Vietnam. :D

Go ahead and do it then instead of boasting. :lol:

Or is it worthless boasting as usual?
 
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Yet we are one of the only 5 NPT recognized nuclear powers in the world. :rofl: (Along with the rest of the UNSC P5 members).

We signed the NPT in 1992, anything before that was forgiven. Great isn't it, you say China gave Pakistan nukes, yet we are officially recognized by the UN and the NPT as recognized nuclear power. :azn:





Go ahead and do it then instead of boasting. :lol:

Or is it worthless boasting as usual?
You must be joking. So you are saying that you gave Nukes to Pakistan after '92 and it took them 7 more years to test it?
Could it be because of famous Chinese technology?

Either you are trying hard at trolling and failing OR you do not know about History.
 
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