Xinjiang Province: News & Discussions

[Rasengan]

'mumbai' might just turn out to be a 'Shanghai', we'll see if you're as smug then

Did Kiss_of_ the_ Dragon speak on a sore subject....then next time be a good little boy and mind your own business and play twiddledum with your fingers, instead of seeking attention.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

In the relationship with China and Pakistan which I already have said is firmly entrenched in self interest and geopolitics.

As time agoes on those Pakistani's who put Pakistan first will be fine with China but those who puts Muslims first will collide with China because they will start jumping up and down about the Uigyhur who trust me are going to be taught the meaning of "China First" or they will be snapped by China like dry twigs .....

In the long run all the Uighurs will be singing "China First" and I know all the Chinese members here support this policy even if for sake of diplomacy they don't say it.

@jamahir I am a socialist as well, through and through.

 

[IR-TR]

pakistan is in a state of specific emergency so i understand what you say.

on my part, since i am a socialist, i don't ascribe to the notion of nationalism... to me, humanity first, where ever it might be.

That is the final goal indeed, and it might come faster than some people think. Nationalism, borders etc, are a thing of the past. That being said, developing/growing nations indeed need to have nationalist (economic/industrial) policies first, before opening up.

Anyway, why are people cheering terrorist attacks in each other's countries? That's pathetic. Whatever their beliefs.

 

[haviZsultan]

Double standards! Hypocrites!

So you mean there is a link? Are you pointing at RAW, India's intelligence wing supporting the uighers to cause havoc in china as punishment for blocking this Lakhvi thing?

 

[VCheng]

As time agoes on those Pakistani's who put Pakistan first will be fine with China but those who puts Muslims first will collide with China because they will start jumping up and down about the Uigyhur who trust me are going to be taught the meaning of "China First" or they will be snapped by China like dry twigs .....

The percentage of the first category is falling while that of the second is rising. These trends make the collision more likely with the third category as times goes by.

 

[jamahir]

@jamahir I am a socialist as well, through and through.

you are certainly a progressive but are you serious about what you said ??

 

[Indus Pakistan]

China First Pakistan First


China First Muslim First

The above sums up the reality and our Chinese members know this. Next few decades is going to be interesting. I know which group in Pakistan the Chinese will support - secularists ....

 

[VCheng]

China First Pakistan First


China First Muslim First

The above sums up the reality and our Chinese members know this. Next few decades is going to be interesting. I know which group in Pakistan the Chinese will support - secularists ....

Like this?

Chinese academic defends beer festival in Muslim region | Page 6

 

[Indos]

Lool interesting debate going on here.

As many know I already said it before, Pakistan will have a hard time maintaining its alliance with China, WHY? Simple answer : RELIGION.
Most Middle Eastern /Muslim countries always put religion first (especially the people) so obviously there are many Pakistani who sympathise with their 'oppressed ' Muslim uygurs brothers , just like Pakistan's best friend Turkey does as well. religion to most of these people comes first before even their own country much less national interests.
So China as i said before ought to be very careful in it's dealings with these countries.

I think by seeing Palestinian-Israel conflict in relation with Muslim nations foreign policy, it has become the evidence that sometime national interest of Muslim nations will collide with their people feeling. In any democratic country it is even so normal. Just take example European nations, they are quite different in dealing with Palestinian-Israel issue compared to how USA dealing with this one. There is more pro Palestinian foreign policy as well in the European side, which is not a weird one as European people favorabillity toward Israel is much lower than in USA.

Furthermore, most of PDF members are not government high rank official, so I think it is also normal if there is a heat debate going on here between Pakistanis and Chinese regarding a particular issue.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

you are certainly a progressive but are you serious about what you said ??

Why would I say otherwise. Did you not notice how I supported the BISP program in Pakistan as sterling example of how well Pakistan is doing to repudiate the failed rubbish despite allegations of fraud etc....

Pakistan Failed state?

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

what will happen to Gwadar route then

it's not gonna affect our relation or any of our current project such Gwadar, our relation are very mature...that why we call "all weather friends". It's not the first thread nor last thread, I have seen so many threads that you guys want to dragg some Pakistanis over this religious issue and inflame Chinese Pakistanis relation, you guys can alway try but we all know your intentions but hope that you Indians wont get counter-attack both by Chineses and Pakistanis friends at the same time and then cry like no end.

 

[Rasengan]

but I thought this thread was about a jihadist terror attack in China ?

Then simply don't bring India or Mumbai into the thread, because like you have clearly stipulated the terrorists event occurred in China.

 

[gau8av]

Then simply don't bring India or Mumbai into the thread, because like you have clearly stipulated the terrorists event occurred in China.

why not, this kind of religious fanaticism/terror is a threat to both India and China.

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

if you saved him for Mumbai 2.0 then you should worry about Shanghai 1.0 also

USA used to tell us the same until 9/11 happened

What we have to woory about Shanghai 1.0. but If Mumbai 2.0 happened again, please dont beg us in UN over and over again...LMAO

 

[Indus Pakistan]

it's not gonna affect our relation or any of our current project such Gwadar, our relation are very mature...that why we call "all weather friends". It's not the first thread nor last thread, I have seen so many threads that you guys want to dragg some Pakistanis over this religious issue and inflame Chinese Pakistanis relation, you guys can alway try but we all know your intentions but hope that you Indians wont get counter-attack both by Chineses and Pakistanis friends at the same time and then cry like no end.

I already made it abundantly clear China/Pak relationship is strategic reality and nothing is going to change that. This issue is subservient to that. I already made that clear.