Xi Jinping to UN General Assembly: "Democracy is not special right reserved for an individual country"

[nang2]

That is how modern governance systems are setup. A person who has money and power can easily find his way into top office. This has not always been the case with democracy. Originally people who strived for a democratic setup were lower to middle class people with representatives from same class. Now that is not the case as the entire process has been made so expensive that a normal person cant even fathom to contest. No one can contest an election unless they has few million dollars to throw around in campaigns.

There is always a question. Why would he, with all the money and power, WANT to find his way into top office? Has anyone really thought this question through? Once you know the answer, you would know what kind of government you want.

 

[Novus ordu seclorum]

And I regard it as wishful thinking.

Honestly, don't know what you are saying. Sounds like you are saying it for the sake of it.

 

[American Pakistani]

Democracy is obsolete honestly. It is based on idea by higher ups to control the fools. Give free welfare to bunch of fools and have them vote for you.

If majority wants destruction, go for it instead of going for justice.

 

[chinasun]

China’s political system is unique and largely misunderstood by outsiders, in large part because of misinformation. It has also changed considerable over time, since the Mao era.
1- China is a Republic and under China's constitution - Article 3 The State organs of the People’s Republic of China apply the principle of democratic centralism.
The National People’s Congress (parliament equivalent) and the local people’s congresses at various levels are constituted through elections. They are responsible to the people and subject to their supervision. All administrative, judicial and procuratorial organs of the State are created by the people’s congresses to which they are responsible and by which they are supervised.
Article 34 All citizens of the People’s Republic of China who have reached the age of 18 have the right to vote and stand for election, regardless of ethnic status, race, sex, occupation, family background, religious belief, education, property status or length of residence, except persons deprived of political rights according to law.
Democracy, where by the people have input into how they are governed, is a desired ideal that lives within a structure and a process, but not predefined ones. Democracy is not defined by one input or outcome. There are many variations of what democratic elements can look like.
2- Are there democratic elements in how China is governed ?
Absolutely. The system for electing is bottom-up hierarchical approach with each lower tier of government electing members to the next higher tier. Similar to a pyramid beginning with a very broad base and ending with a very few positions at the top.
The bottom tier of governance begins by according all adult villagers the right to vote for members to their village congress. Candidates can be from any of the 6 or 7 different recognized political parties or run as an independent. This is direct election by the people of their representative.
Beyond the first tier we have “in-direct” election by the people’s representatives. In other words - the people’s representative votes for their representatives to the next higher tier and so on and so on. This goes on until the level of the National People’s Congress, of which at last election, about 30% are not members of the CPC.
The government has established term limits and age limits to positions within the pyramid to allow for constant turn over of leadership and a system of regular elections, avoiding personal dynasties.
3- Is the Premier of China or The President of China elected - yes. Are they elected directly by the people - no.
They are elected by the People’s National Congress.
On the other hand, neither is the President of the US, the Prime Ministers of Canada or the UK elected directly by the people. One is chosen by the Electoral College and the others through their party having the most seats in a general election.
4- How does the central government function?
The central government with input from it’s technical experts, National Party Congress, the CPC and various standing committees ….. establishes high level national goals and policies (economic and social) to be achieved. These are then passed downward for each Province to achieve, with a lot of discretion for implementation. Provincial leaders will cascade down these requirements to their lower ranks.
5- How do people rise within government roles?
China operates a meritocracy system. (1) They are elected to that position by peers, (2) they must have experience at lower levels, (3) they must have succeeded in prior roles, (4) leaders are not politicians, they are technocrats, with university education.
No one reaches the top ranks until they have served many decades of success in governing people.
To be elected by peers one must be well liked as well as competent. One developers strong personal relationships.
6- Summary
The system functions as a unique blend of various governing ideology, including drawing a lot from Confucianism on how one should govern, their responsibilities and the importance of a stable society. Without being elected directly by the people, senior leaders can concentrate on what is best for the country as a whole.
In general governance has progressively responded over decades to serve the interests of majority of the people in giving them a secure and stable society, with a positive outlook for the future
What is China's political system?author：Ray Comeau

What is the political structure of the Chinese government?

Answer (1 of 34): A2A. (Sorry for the delay been traveling.) China’s political system is unique and largely misunderstood by outsiders, in large part because of misinformation. It has also changed considerable over time, since the Mao era. 1- China is a Republic and under China's constitution -...

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[fallstuff]

You see, you don't know anything about China.
The National People's Congress is not elected by the Communist Party, but by all citizens. Only 20.54% of NPC deputies are communists.
Secondly, social credits is only related to financial records. Only those who do not repay their debts will be on the social credits blacklist and are prohibited from high consumption.

You see, almost all the information your media tell you is lies. Now do you understand why the Chinese despise your so-called democracy?


BTW: China has 90 million Communists, 80 million members of the Communist Youth League and 140 million young pioneers. With a population of 1.4 billion, China has 310 million Communist parties at all levels. So not every building has a Communist Party, but every family has a Communist Party.

Now you are spreading half-truths. You are being dishonest. Its not always about financials unlike USA where it is about finances and court Judgements.

The following is from CCP mouthpiece, Global Times,

Beijing also released revisions on its code of conduct for subway passengers, proposing that "uncivilized" behavior, including eating on the train, would be added to individual credit information.

People in Zhejiang who frequently change jobs with "malicious intent" might be included in the social credit report, according to the Zhejiang Province Human Resources and Social Security Department.

Social credit system to restore morality - Global Times

www.globaltimes.cn

If someone needs tp travel even for a family emergency , that would not be allowed to fly or buy HSR tickets even with cash.

Suzhou, East China's Jiangsu Province, is now the subject of heated public debate after the local government launched a civil behavior scoring system that is supposed to monitor and evaluate people's behaviors in daily lives.

With concerns ranging from violation of human rights to a possible abuse of power, many have taken to the internet to question the rationale behind this launch, while Suzhou authorities have been reassuring the public that the system is only being run on a trial basis and will not be as intrusive as perceived.

Suzhou's controversial behavior scoring system triggers heated debate

news.cgtn.com

The above links are Chinese which destroys your false information.
Give it up comrade, you lost !

 

[MH.Yang]

Now you are spreading half-truths. You are being dishonest. Its not always about financials unlike USA where it is about finances and court Judgements.

The following is from CCP mouthpiece, Global Times,

Social credit system to restore morality - Global Times

www.globaltimes.cn

If someone needs tp travel even for a family emergency , that would not be allowed to fly or buy HSR tickets even with cash.

Suzhou's controversial behavior scoring system triggers heated debate

news.cgtn.com

The above links are Chinese which destroys your false information.
Give it up comrade, you lost !

Do you understand what the word "proposing" and "may"means??

Now that you know that the global times is a newspaper like FOX , It say "proposing" and "may", then you take it as a fact?


The so-called Suzhou point system, first of all, Suzhou is only a city in China, not the whole of China. Secondly, have you read your article clearly? This point system is not mandatory, and only rewards, no punishment.

 

[fallstuff]

Do you understand what the word "proposing" and "may"means??

Now that you know that the global times is a newspaper like FOX , It say "proposing" and "may", then you take it as a fact?


The so-called Suzhou point system, first of all, Suzhou is only a city in China, not the whole of China. Secondly, have you read your article clearly? This point system is not mandatory, and only rewards, no punishment.
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Large integrated software programs are complex to build. You spend lots of money to integrate features in a software not to take them off. You will want to have the ability to turn on or off certain features at will.

A democratic system needs a circuit breaker so certain issues as in the case of Cultural Revolution do not go out of control. In a single party system, sycophancy runs at an extreme level. As you and I exchange these posts thousands of Chinese are investing close to a $1 million to get EB5 immigrant Visa in the USA, no one is doing the same in China. People with money in China do not trusts the whims of CCP.

 

[MH.Yang]

Large integrated software programs are complex to build. You spend lots of money to integrate features in a software not to take them off. You will want to have the ability to turn on or off certain features at will.

A democratic system needs a circuit breaker so certain issues as in the case of Cultural Revolution do not go out of control. In a single party system, sycophancy runs at an extreme level. As you and I exchange these posts thousands of Chinese are investing close to a $1 million to get EB5 immigrant Visa in the USA, no one is doing the same in China. People with money in China do not trusts the whims of CCP.

Indians, not Chinese, want American citizenship. At most, Chinese people want a green card to facilitate entry and exit.
China has 600k students studying abroad every year, and almost all of them have returned home. You can confirm it with Google.

As for the American circuit breaker, you must be tickly me. Isn't this year's White House comedy wonderful enough? And isn't there enough orange flatterer?

I will repeat it:
Democracy means that people control their rights through govt. Instead of Wall Street controlling power through the govt.
The country is the tool of the ruling group to rule the ruled group. Democracy means that the ruling group is the people, not Wall Street.

 

[khansaheeb]

There is no bigger meme than democracy.
But I do believe China is more democratic because factionalism in China is stronger than the US, US is literally two puppet parties.

The only democracy in the western world is the right to walk to the polling booth and cast a vote. After that the elected officials do what they want and when they want. The British people are sick of the Zionophiles pumping tax payer money and weapons into Israel and the continuous interference in overseas countries but the Gov persists nevertheless. Then the British bullsh!t company (BBC) spreads spin after spin with mix of fact and fiction , omissions and half truths together with Fox News pumping the white supremacy warrior class BS with 24 hours a day of repetitive brainwashing creating couch potato slobs who exhale bitterness and white privilege and who create a work culture for minorities a step above slavery. China was built on a cultural and agricultural revolution and not on the backs of slavery. Unfortunately President Xi's speech is going to fall on deaf ears , the colonialists are well engrossed in world domination and economic supremacy that they have no time for words of wisdom until their glass castles come crashing down.

Surprising that there are was no direct reference to absorb Taiwan in to mainland China and for arms control and reduction to make the world a safer place.

 

[aziqbal]

There is no bigger meme than democracy.
But I do believe China is more democratic because factionalism in China is stronger than the US, US is literally two puppet parties.

until China doesn't give full independence to Ughurs the situation cannot be settled

China has shown its a 1 party state who will kill its own citizens if they have different opinions

look at HK and Tibet

then they did Genocide against Ughurs and the World has recognised it as such and rightly so

Ughurs have been made refugees in all the country's around China

in Turkey Ughurs are now living in excel in the tens of thousands

 

[REhorror]

until China doesn't give full independence to Ughurs the situation cannot be settled

China has shown its a 1 party state who will kill its own citizens if they have different opinions

look at HK and Tibet

then they did Genocide against Ughurs and the World has recognised it as such and rightly so

Ughurs have been made refugees in all the country's around China

in Turkey Ughurs are now living in excel in the tens of thousands

I believe the Uighur problems are solving itself anyway since their population is growing, unlike Han.
It's going to end up like the Tang dynasty vs An Lushan, Xin Jiang has always been bad news for China.
The HK/Guangdong situation is so so, but as long as the americans lead the anti-China faction, they cannot be trusted.

America is the snake of snakes.

At the moment, it's best to sit your comfy *ss in the mountain and watch tigers fight.

 

[retaxis]

I believe the Uighur problems are solving itself anyway since their population is growing, unlike Han.
It's going to end up like the Tang dynasty vs An Lushan, Xin Jiang has always been bad news for China.
The HK/Guangdong situation is so so, but as long as the americans lead the anti-China faction, they cannot be trusted.

America is the snake of snakes.

At the moment, it's best to sit your comfy *ss in the mountain and watch tigers fight.

Xinjiang is going to be like Inner mongolia. 80% Han and 20% other in a few years time. if you go by the past is Mongolia still a superpower lol?

 

[REhorror]

Xinjiang is going to be like Inner mongolia. 80% Han and 20% other in a few years time. if you go by the past is Mongolia still a superpower lol?

Han population isn't growing anymore, in fact, it's all the rural minorities that are growing.
In fact, Inner Mongolia might get into trouble if Beijing gets weakened, just as the Manchu before with the Ming.

But honestly, I won't touch much into chinese internal politics, I don't think anybody here knows the situation on the ground.

 

[retaxis]

Han population isn't growing anymore, in fact, it's all the rural minorities that are growing.
In fact, Inner Mongolia might get into trouble if Beijing gets weakened, just as the Manchu before with the Ming.

But honestly, I won't touch much into chinese internal politics, I don't think anybody here knows the situation on the ground.

Han population can grow if China wants it to grow. It doesn't grow because of the 1 child policy which is now reversed. if China wants Chinas population to be 3billion it can in a short period of time. Xinjiang will end up like Inner Mongolia overnight if China wants it to be that way.

 

[MH.Yang]

Xinjiang is going to be like Inner mongolia. 80% Han and 20% other in a few years time. if you go by the past is Mongolia still a superpower lol?

The Vietnamese is right. The population growth rate of Uighurs is much higher than that of Han people.
Now it is not the Han people who have migrated to Xinjiang, Instead, Uighurs migrated to Han provinces.

But the Vietnamese underestimated the assimilation ability of Chinese civilization. The Hui people in China are also Muslims, their population is similar to that of the Uighur people, and they are descendants of Arabs, but there is no difference between Hui and Han. One hundred years later, Uighurs will also be assimilated.