WZ-19 being tested by Pakistan ?

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

For light Seek and destroy missions , or patrolling border zones where you may encounter occasional armed resistance
WZ-19 offers a nice , easy to fly machine , loaded with rockets and machine gun to neutralize the enemy quickly

Really a 1 to 1 replacement for Cobra Helicopters in Pakistan Aviation corps (due to old age and lack of replacement parts)

It also is a good option for inner city escalations

 

[Zarvan]

For light Seek and destroy missions , or patrolling border zones where you may encounter occasional armed resistance
WZ-19 offers a nice , easy to fly machine , loaded with rockets and machine gun to neutralize the enemy quickly

Really a 1 to 1 replacement for Cobra Helicopters in Pakistan Aviation corps (due to old age and lack of replacement parts)

It also is a good option for inner city escalations

WZ-19 if being tested should be given to Para Military Forces.

 

[Arsalan]

Sir,the one thing which i am pretty sure about is that the chopper we are talking about here is currently NOT in PAA inventory and is being currenly tested.

Yes,I don't know the number of platforms being looked at right now but i am sure it won't be a big number.
P.S.You may have more info about this.So feel free to share anything which you think can be 'leaked' on this forum.

Well i will say no more for now but will like to advise you to hold your horses as well, there are some serious confusions here and people will just go crazy based on such half cooked stories. It is best to keep zip up, there MUST be some reason ISPR do not talk like this right? i do not believe we are more intelligent or smarter then the ones who are in this profession. Better follow there lead.

I have a feeling helicopter is Italian ? Am I right ?

We already have AW139 in service sir. You think it is something Italian and yet not AW139 that is now being looked

WZ-19 if being tested should be given to Para Military Forces.

Exactly HOW MANY different types of helicopters you think PAA should be operating? a couple of dozen different types? That will be quite stupid of them. Operating 8 10 helicopters of some 14 15 different kinds?

Hold your Horses for NOW!!
DO NOT MISGUIDE YOUR FELLOW MEMBERS HERE.

 

[Zarvan]

Well i will say no more for now but will like to advise you to hold your horses as well, there are some serious confusions here and people will just go crazy based on such half cooked stories. It is best to keep zip up, there MUST be some reason ISPR do not talk like this right? i do not believe we are more intelligent or smarter then the ones who are in this profession. Better follow there lead.


We already have AW139 in service sir. You think it is something Italian and yet not AW139 that is now being looked


Exactly HOW MANY different types of helicopters you think PAA should be operating? a couple of dozen different types? That will be quite stupid of them. Operating 8 10 helicopters of some 14 15 different kinds?

Hold your Horses for NOW!!
DO NOT MISGUIDE YOUR FELLOW MEMBERS HERE.

I am in favor of turning Para Military into National Guards just like KSA has. Off course with some slight changes. They should have Medium weight Tanks and Anti Tank Destroyers and Attack Helicopters. They can defend the border while Army can go on total offence

 

[Arsalan]

I am in favor of turning Para Military into National Guards just like KSA has. Off course with some slight changes. They should have Medium weight Tanks and Anti Tank Destroyers and Attack Helicopters. They can defend the border while Army can go on total offence

The question remains:

Exactly HOW MANY different types of helicopters you think PAA should be operating? a couple of dozen different types? That will be quite stupid of them. Operating 8 10 helicopters of some 14 15 different kinds?

Even IF this wild dream comes true and we somehow get the economic power to support such changes, don't you think similarity of platform between these National guard, army and air force will be more logical and will make much more sense rather then operating dozens of different kind of platforms?

That said, i pray to Allah that nothing like Saudia ever happens to us, except for the oil off-course.

 

[Zarvan]

The question remains:

Even IF this wild dream comes true and we somehow get the economic power to support such changes, don't you think similarity of platform between these National guard, army and air force will be more logical and will make much more sense rather then operating dozens of different kind of platforms?

That said, i pray to Allah that nothing like Saudia ever happens to us, except for the oil off-course.

Equipping them with heavy helicopters is not great idea but can be discussed

 

[Arsalan]

Equipping them with heavy helicopters is not great idea but can be discussed

For the third time, my question is very simple and all i ask is a simple answer. I never asked your views about equipping them with a heavy helicopter now did i?

My question is:

Exactly HOW MANY different types of helicopters you think PAA should be operating? a couple of dozen different types? That will be quite stupid of them. Operating 8 10 helicopters of some 14 15 different kinds?

What is so difficult to understand here sir?

here, see the post again please and see if you can reply to this?

Even IF this wild dream comes true and we somehow get the economic power to support such changes, don't you think similarity of platform between these National guard, army and air force will be more logical and will make much more sense rather then operating dozens of different kind of platforms?

.

 

[Zarvan]

For the third time, my question is very simple and all i ask is a simple answer. I never asked your views about equipping them with a heavy helicopter now did i?

My question is:


What is so difficult to understand here sir?

here, see the post again please and see if you can reply to this?

Attack Helicopters should not of more than three types but for Para Military I am talking about total change of status with separate budget.

 

[Arsalan]

Attack Helicopters should not of more than three types but for Para Military I am talking about total change of status with separate budget.

Thank you for replying at least a part of my question.
You are suggesting for:

1. Three different kind of attack helicopters.

As for the paramilitary you say "total change of status". What is meant by that?

My point is don't you think that the paramilitary forces or the the national guard or whatever we call it, it will be BETTER for them if they use similar platforms as well. Don't you think that having similar platforms across all the forces will be beneficial? like black hawk is in service with all US military arms (just as example, do not read too much into it, i hope i have made my question clear).

I ask you think because i will like to have you views on this as well. Personally i feel that no matter what the new force name is, it is much better if all the arms are using similar platforms. It makes logistics and maintenance much easier. The weapon production and storage is helped. So if they can all perform there job well, why not keep the types of platforms to a minimum. Surely the military decisions are not to be made by fanboys who will like to get all the toys in the market. These decision are to be made keeping in view the best value for money deal and also the needs and requirements even if there are no financial restrains. What you think about this sir?

 

[IHK_PK]

The diversity in helicopter inventory in Pakistan armed forces is the result of the Chinese both helicopter are in Pakistan for testing and it's our inputs which can help China to make them more useful and lethal. As we r currently using more type of helicopters of different nations which China don't have.
So every thing have its merits and demerits.

 

[Zarvan]

The diversity in helicopter inventory in Pakistan armed forces is the result of the Chinese both helicopter are in Pakistan for testing and it's our inputs which can help China to make them more useful and lethal. As we r currently using more type of helicopters of different nations which China don't have.
So every thing have its merits and demerits.

I haven't seen any proof of Z-19 being tested by Pakistan. What is your source ? Although I think Z-19 can be good option for our para military forces. I am big supporter of changing the role of Para Military Forces and also their equipment

 

[Incog_nito]

Still there are issues with Chinese ones as PAA and PN have placed orders for EU choppers.

 

[PakGuns]

So we Are Gonna induct

Mi-35 for Anti Narcotics = 4 Confirm
AH-1Z Zulu = 15 Confirm
WZ-10= 25 (rough guess)
WZ-19= 20 (rough guess)

to replace 60 Cobras or we are looking to induct more then 60

Which one is Wz-19??? to me it looks like all 3 are Wz-10

Let me guess.. I think they put z-10s tail on one of Z-19

 

[IHK_PK]

No n

Let me guess.. I think they put z-10s tail on one of Z-19

No sir, both are totally different helicopters.

 

[PakGuns]

No n


No sir, both are totally different helicopters.

Well, thanks for info also what is sarcasm??