Will Russia ever have its own aircraft carrier?

[shuntmaster]

Russia has heavy aircraft carrying missile cruiser Admiral Kuznetsov.

 

[Oldman1]

may be you have less units, but they become much more powerful, so that no reduction was not. If you were building a defense against the "aggressive" USSR - your military budget would not exceed the budgets of all other nations combined.
And even more, you would not attack Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya and other countries.
But it is possible if you were a peaceful country concerned about self-protecting, not killing, robing and spying the whole world, including your own citizens.

As if the Russians never done something like that before. Especially spying on the world and on your own people.

 

[gambit]

As if the Russians never done something like that before. Especially spying on the world and on your own people.

Naaaah...He probably believes that the Soviet Union 'liberated' people from US 'capitalist running dogs'.

 

[sovcomflot]

Naaaah...He probably believes that the Soviet Union 'liberated' people from US 'capitalist running dogs'.

Looking at what USA has done in Syria,Libya,Iraq and other nations, probably ,russians look like much better choice any day.

 

[vostok]

As if the Russians never done something like that before. Especially spying on the world and on your own people.

You know, with the military budget as the rest of the world, and ideas like "this is normal, because to us it's someone somewhere has already done" - you will go far. Prior to fascism, for example.

 

[sovcomflot]

You know, with the military budget as the rest of the world, and ideas like "this is normal, because to us it's someone somewhere has already done" - you will go far. Prior to fascism, for example.

check the NDAA law that enables indefinite detention and torture of american citizens without warrant. NDAA 2012 declared USA a warzone also.

 

[vostok]

Naaaah...He probably believes that the Soviet Union 'liberated' people from US 'capitalist running dogs'.

In most cases, the Soviet Union helped people free themselves from British and French colonialism - Africa, Asia. But sometimes, from American capitalists, like Cuba.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

In most cases, the Soviet Union helped people free themselves from British and French colonialism - Africa, Asia. But sometimes, from American capitalists, like Cuba.

Add Poland, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, the Baltic Republics(Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania) etc etc etc....right?

 

[sovcomflot]

It won't really matter since the U.S. has multiple warheads that can destroy cities and bunkers many times over. As well a deep underground bunkers. Even if any survived govt. collapse, destruction of food sources and transportation of food as well as radiation tends to mitigate survival. Imagine trying to feed more than a billion people if any survived.

really ?There are 12000 nuclear shelter bunkers in Moscow itself capable of holding 1500 people each.4873 in St.Petersburg.

the U.S. has multiple warheads that can destroy cities and bunkers many times over. As well a deep underground bunkers. Even if any survived govt. collapse, destruction of food sources and transportation of food as well as radiation tends to mitigate survival.

Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/milita...its-own-aircraft-carrier-3.html#ixzz2iQftDhAO

Massive underground Food and grain storage facilities for feeding population for 3 years exist in Russia.

Imagine trying to feed more than a billion people if any survived.

Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/milita...its-own-aircraft-carrier-3.html#ixzz2iQg64ud6

Russian population is 140 million. Plus they were believed to have an illegal nationwide ABM system armed with nuclear warheads.

Add Poland, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, the Baltic Republics(Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania) etc etc etc....right?

Like the brahmins who imposed some of the most racial and sexually perverted laws on the lower castes?

 

[SarthakGanguly]

really ?There are 12000 nuclear shelter bunkers in Moscow itself capable of holding 1500 people each.4873 in St.Petersburg.



Massive underground Food and grain storage facilities for feeding population for 3 years exist in Russia.



Russian population is 140 million. Plus they were believed to have an illegal nationwide ABM system armed with nuclear warheads.



Like the brahmins who imposed some of the most racial and sexually perverted laws on the lower castes?

Lets stick to Soviet Union, shall we?

 

[sovcomflot]

Lets stick to Soviet Union, shall we?

Why ? Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones on others.

 

[vostok]

Add Poland, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, the Baltic Republics(Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania) etc etc etc....right?

The Soviet Union helped the Communists come to power in these countries, but it would be hard to say that the Soviet Union liberated the countries from capitalism. While USSR supported the legitimate governments of these countries during the paid-West rebellion attempts.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

That is not the point.
Open a separate thread, I can strip your argument piece by piece. But not here.

Why ? Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones on others.

 

[sovcomflot]

The Soviet Union helped the Communists come to power in these countries, but it would be hard to say that the Soviet Union liberated the countries from capitalism. While USSR supported the legitimate governments of these countries during the paid-West rebellion attempts.

Exception of Poland ,Almost all the other countries were better off under communism .To be frank ,I too was against the anti-religious policies and the overboard controlling tendencies of USSR on eastern europe ,but what the state of eastern europe now is,its a total disaster.A lot of people do want back a socialist system ,but without the anti-religious practices or controlling tendencies of communist govts like fining the people for anti-political statements or temporarily detaining them .

 

[sovcomflot]

That is not the point.
Open a separate thread, I can strip your argument piece by piece. But not here.

Strip my arguement?

The only thing that will happen is that a lot more will be more known about types the brahmins were and their monstrous crimes against humanity which dwarfs many mass genocides in history .

Raceandhistory.com - Apartheid Varna System

Ajit Vadakayil: THE WORST RACISTS ON PLANET EARTH- CAPT AJIT VADAKAYIL

There have been estimates that death toll of lower castes like shudras due to Brahminical genocide is 400-600 million . Should we debate on Manu Smriti ,.the brahmin law book that advocated genocide on shudras?
@vostok, just read the manu smriti,you will understand.Like I said ,perpertrators of apartheid ,genocide,poverty should not throw stones on others.