Will accept Modi if he apologises: UP Muslims

[Nalwa]

hmm not so bad among the bigger states.

Yeah, just about lower than Maharshtra, WB, TN and the troubled J&K. Not a big deal I guess.

And what has size got to do with resources and implementation, anyway?

 

[SpArK]

Yeah, just about lower than Maharshtra, WB, TN and the troubled J&K. Not a big deal I guess.

And what has size got to do with resources and implementation, anyway?

Yup the social mindset needs to be changed on par with the reforms it seems.

 

[Riaz Mohammed]

shameful....

 

[LaBong]

Yup the social mindset needs to be changed on par with the reforms it seems.

That's okay Spark, but what I don't understand, what extraordinary has Modi done to deserve the fanfare as opposed to people like Shila Dixit, Nitish Kumar and Tamil Nadu/Andhra politicians? He is good administrator, granted, but that's not the sole quality one seek in a prime minister nor there is severe crunch of it in India.

 

[SpArK]

That's okay Spark, but what I don't understand, what extraordinary has Modi done to deserve the fanfare as opposed to people like Shila Dixit, Nitish Kumar and Tamil Nadu/Andhra politicians? He is good administrator, granted, but that's not the sole quality one seek in a prime minister nor there is severe crunch of it in India.

I never proposed him ever for PM post. would rather see him as an industry's,commerce or anything similar.

Regarding the child mortality issue. Here is an article.

Health First for Gujarat

Health details of about 85 lakh families in the entire state covering more than 80 percent of the population have been entered so far in the software's database and system generated unique Health IDs have been provided to all

With the goal of improving the Human Development Index, the Government of Gujarat is celebrating the current year as its Golden/Swarnim year. The Millennium Development Goals 4 and 5 of reducing maternal and child mortality are the Swarnim Gujarat goals. Reduction in child mortality includes under five mortality, infant mortality and proportion of children immunised against measles, whereas maternal mortality reduction is possible through an enhanced emphasis on institutionalisation of deliveries. The focus of the Health and Family Welfare Department is to bring down the infant mortality and maternal mortality rates as envisioned by the National Rural Health Mission (NRHM).

e-Mamta – Mother and child tracking application

As a major initiative in this regard, the Health and Family Welfare Department of the Government of Gujarat, has introduced a mother and child name-based tracking information management system called 'e-Mamta' in collaboration with the NIC, Gujarat. This is the first-of-its-kind system, that has been conceptualised and developed by Gujarat and the Government of India has adopted it for replication in all other states.

A web-based software application accessed through www.e-mamta.guj.nic.in, the system covers the entire population of Gujarat with special emphasis on rural, urban slum and slum-like population. Health details of about 85 lakh families in the entire state consisting of about 4.30 crore individuals covering more than 80 percent of the population have thus been entered so far in the software's database and system generated unique Health IDs have been provided to all.

The system provides a management tool to the service providers at the grassroot level to determine the potential recipients of the services along with their details, through comprehensive work plans

The system aims at registering individual pregnant mothers and children in the age group of 0-6 and adolescents along with their full details to ensure complete service delivery of antenatal care (ANC), child birth, post natal care (PNC), immunisation, nutrition and adolescent services and to track the left outs, if any. It also provides a management tool to the service providers at the grassroot level to determine the potential recipients of the services along with their details, through comprehensive work plans. Finally, the services are aggregated to generate reports that are reliable and valid. The approach is therefore to plan, deliver and monitor, which is proactive rather than reactive.

What makes e-Mamta unique?

Certain salient features of the e-Mamta application include:

• Generation of work plans for the health workers for comprehensive health service delivery
• Real-time reports of the due and delivered services to mothers and children
• Instant analysis of the data through dashborad
• SMS alerts to beneficiaries and service providers for better service delivery, improved coverage and follow up
• Details of various incentives paid to all cadres of health workers individual records for the benefits of JSY, BSY and CY schemes
• Online health record/immunisation card of all individuals of Gujarat will be available in the software and will be generated from any DH/CHC/PHC or e-Gram center
• The programme is integrated with the HMIS and various reports (Form No 6, 7, 8, 9, etc.) and registers (Register No. 2 , etc.) will automatically get generated from it
• UID compatibility
• Interdepartmental coordination – ICDS, Education Department, RSBY, etc. will be integrated in this programme
• All other National Health Programmes to be integrated with e-Mamta
• The application is already in place in 26 districts (including private healthcare providers) of Gujarat and announced for National Rollout in June 2010 at the NRHM Review meeting in Bhopal.

Future plans

Future plans involve completely covering the gamut to provide comprehensive healthcare delivery to the rural population, mainly including the following:

• Use of Mobile-based technology for more efficient implementation
• Integration with National Programmes
• Complete Health Record
• Integration with e-Sewa and e-Gram
• Basis for ICDs, primary education, school health programme.

Health First for Gujarat



Thats why i commented on change in social mindset in tandem with the reforms will only bring benefits in all sectors.

 

[LiberalAtheist]

look Modi f'd up in the Gujarat fiasco by not acting thats all you can blame for you guys are acting like he murdered people himself there is a difference between inaction and active involvement the saffron terrorists who murdered the innocent Muslims should be tortured to death imho same with the Muslims who killed innocent Hindus

its disgusting how we have so much religious violence and no justice is delivered in case of 84 (Sikhs) 2002 (Hindus/Muslims) 2008 (Christians) this why we need tough minority protection legislation sometime i wonder should we vote for the mainly agnostic/atheist communist party?

its time for a agnostic/atheist political party in India that lies on the centre-left advocating these kind of policies

Social liberalism
Social democracy
Indian nationalism
Economic liberalism
libertarianism
Fiscal liberalism
Gandhian socialism
Progressivism
Populsim

it should be called the Nationalist party or the Secular party i hate the Congress because they are corrupt and for what they did to my people i like BJP because they are not as corrupt as Congress (but has corrupt members) but they're social conservative policies i do not agree with one is a Sikh killer the other is a protector of right wing Saffron terror we need a new political party i take APUSH and have learned politics along the way maybe Jeffersonian democracy is needed in India?

the bottom line is though Modi's role in the riots was limited to inaction nothing else.

 

[Developereo]

Prove plz- i hate blunt lies-

The ones involve in Bangladesh we despise them- we dont consider them as heroes- unlike you-

Let's not feed the diversion into Pakistan, Bangladesh, etc.

In any case, the Indian Muslims need to find resolution, with the help of moderate Hindus, Sikhs, and others in India. Secular and moderate Hindus need to ask themselves how they can ever excuse, let alone support, a bigoted monster like Modi.

Gujarat elections: BJP chief minister reverts to Muslim-baiting

13 December 2007

The Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) Chief Minister of Gujarat, Narendra Modi, has reverted to stoking up anti-Muslim sentiment in a transparent attempt to polarize the west Indian state on communal lines and thereby cling to power in the state assembly elections that are being held in two phases this week.

Modi attacks Congress for appeasement of Muslims

April 8, 2011

Playing the Bangladeshi card, Gujarat chief minister and BJP leader Narendra Modi today launched a scathing attack on the Tarun Gogoi led Congress government for appeasement of Muslims and its failure to stop illegal infiltration from across the border.

Muslim cleric, who offered cap to Modi, seeks security cover | The CSF

As far as harmony is concerned Modi’s refusal to wear Muslim skullcap but happily wear pagri offered by others, has spoiled his claimed exercise for communal harmony.

Muslim community not ready to forgive Narendra Modi for 2002 riots - India - DNA

Muslims in Lucknow, Uttar Pradesh, on Saturday said the 'harmony' fast being observed by Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi is a political stunt.

 

[JonAsad]

Sure!

Karachi targeted killings claimed 748 lives last year: HRCP | Metropolitan | DAWN.COM

Go take out those target killers first you brave muslim of Pakistan.

It's the official number and includes only data for target killing.

Gujarat riots toll to go up from 952 to 1,180 - Times Of India

you are comparing 700+ deaths in a year- to thousands of death within days?- nice scale you got-

No you hate them because they lost to what in your parlance "Hindu India". Not a single one has been punished for the hate crime the perpetrated! Heck you didn't even apologize to Bangladeshis.

Apologize?- Did modi apologized?- why should we?-
its the general opinion that matters- we as people sympathize with Bangladeshis- you on other hand defend modi- elect him again- think highly of him- thats just sick-

 

[LiberalAtheist]

i like how Pakistanis are quick to castigate Modi on Gujarat yet everyday Hindus and other minorities in Pakistan face persecution Banya has become a slang term with a negative connotation to describe Hindus

 

[JonAsad]

i like how Pakistanis are quick to castigate Modi on Gujarat yet everyday Hindus and other minorities in Pakistan face persecution Banya has become a slang term with a negative connotation to describe Hindus

you are comparing prosecution with mass genocide?- seriously?-

 

[fd24]

i like how Pakistanis are quick to castigate Modi on Gujarat yet everyday Hindus and other minorities in Pakistan face persecution Banya has become a slang term with a negative connotation to describe Hindus

Modi was a minister and was in charge and had authority to protect and serve. Why cant you see you are comparing apples and pears? He COULD have stopped or at least try stopping what was going on.Its not a matter of Hindu Christian or Muslim - Its about a MINISTER not doing his job for all Indian citizens. You say secular India - not when he was in charge.

 

[LiberalAtheist]

you are comparing prosecution with mass genocide?- seriously?-

its still bad and you know it. i am just saying you guys do not have the right to castigate others on situation of minorities as we do not either

mass genocide is a bit of hyperbole to describe the Gujarat riots 1,000+ people is not a mass genocide what happened in Cambodia,Auschwitz, Rwanda, Bangladesh is a mass genocide btw how can you call it a genocide if it was not a planned thing?

 

[LiberalAtheist]

Modi was a minister and was in charge and had authority to protect and serve. Why cant you see you are comparing apples and pears? He COULD have stopped or at least try stopping what was going on.Its not a matter of Hindu Christian or Muslim - Its about a MINISTER not doing his job for all Indian citizens. You say secular India - not when he was in charge.

i agree that he should have responded to the situation had he done so 1,000 people may still be alive noone deserved to die be the person Hindu,Muslim etc

 

[Developereo]

Modi was a minister and was in charge and had authority to protect and serve. Why cant you see you are comparing apples and pears? He COULD have stopped or at least try stopping what was going on.Its not a matter of Hindu Christian or Muslim - Its about a MINISTER not doing his job for all Indian citizens. You say secular India - not when he was in charge.

More imporantly, as the links I posted in post #62 show, he hasn't reformed or repented. He continues to stoke anti-Muslim sentiments even in 2007 and 2011.

The 2002 riots weren't a temporary lapse of administration on his part; they were condoned by him.

 

[AkhandIndia]

its good to see how pakistanis hijacked the thread??