Will accept Modi if he apologises: UP Muslims

[Abhishek_]

Like I said, "lesson learned". To behave, or else.

lessons are taught by dictatorships, you of all should be familiar with that concept

 

[Infinity]

Is he proven guilty by any court of the land ?

I think No! then STFU!

Is Raja, Kamaldi etc........ Proved Guilty by court...............
But we call them Chor................

So he cannot wash his hands of Genocide committed...........

 

[SpArK]

Or else??

What "or else" in 9+ years since the riot happened?

Well there was a riot ignited by communitie's clash which went out of hand of any authorities still going strong round here to argue on Modi's intolerance..

Well whatever ... if it provides relief for a distressed lot to argue on it in pdf.. so be it.

 

[Nalwa]

inaction during a internal crisis is different from a planned out genocide of more than 3k people did you see Modi leading mobs? did you see him open up prisons so criminals could have there way with the "targeted people" did you see Modi handing out voter lists of people circling "target" names? no while i agree Modi should have acted swiftly that was his only mistake inaction

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True he didnt lead mobs but the lower cadre did and with ever bit of understanding that they will be allowed to do all that they want to do. His fault was allowing them to do it. He is as guilty as the man leading the mobs.

please provide me a credible source indicating Modi's involvement in the riots? if you do not have one then please shut up and stop talking crap about Modi the guy literally brought Gujarat up from its knees and this is how you pay him back? we need Modi in south block we need Modi to establish much needed reforms in the country

Gal sun aadi, aiven online forum te chaurha na ho. Tere warge chatti vekhe aa. Aiven ni koi post karke star ban janda. Try and maintain your composure while debating.

And whatever Modi has done he has just continued Gujarat's development. Gujarat was never a poor state. It always had good infrastructure, ports, industries and enterprising people. The development figures for Gujarat are the same as other states that are doing well in India. In fact, for some health related statistics like infant mortality rates, its is lower than the national average. Read up on stuff before forming opinion and sounding like an economics expert online. Gal samajh aayi?

Modi is a pupil of the country's greatest prime minister AB Vajpayee imagine what he did in Gujarat happening to India mass socio-economic development and a leader with a spine. we lack either of the former today.

We lack a lot of things, much less a communal and right-wing guy. What use is development if he cannot stop a carnage in his own state?

 

[Abhishek_]

@nalwa, lets agree to disagree. when election time comes, feel free to vote as per your beliefs.
Isn't that the beauty of democracy. let the best man win

 

[Abhishek_]

Jon, read the article once more. UP muslims' opinion have no bearing on Modi's CM career.

 

[JonAsad]

@nalwa, lets agree to disagree. when election time comes, feel free to vote as per your beliefs.
Isn't that the beauty of democracy. let the best man win

thats the negative point of democracy- no matter how bad mass murderer a person is- if he happen to belong to majority religion- he will be elected again- thats just plain stupid-

84 sikhs were mass murdered-
2002 muslims were mass murdered-

the murderers gets away because the culprits happen to belong to the same majority in a democratic india-

 

[Nalwa]

@nalwa, lets agree to disagree. when election time comes, feel free to vote as per your beliefs.
Isn't that the beauty of democracy. let the best man win

Of course, thats what we are all here to do. Share our opinions and views while the real decisions are taken during elections.

And democracy as its practiced is flawed in itself. The majority - of a particular community, group, motivation etc will influence the result. If that hadn't been the case, we would have always elected the right person for the job. How many time has that happened?

 

[LaBong]

Nalwa was right Gujrat was never a poor state to belong with, infact it has grown at double digit rate in 90s. Gujrat fares rather low in social stats and only major investment was TATA Nano, thanks to Mamata didi.

 

[Nalwa]

Nalwa was right Gujrat was never a poor state to belong with, infact it has grown at double digit rate in 90s. Gujrat fares rather low in social stats and only major investment was TATA Nano, thanks to Mamata didi.

Most people seem to have been brain-washed into thinking that Gujarat was Bihar earlier and is Switzerland now!

 

[takeiteasy]

Modi will pay a price, today or tomorrow. In any case Indian Muslims are much better off than living in Pakistan.

no the Hindu Gujarat is Completely in support of Him. Clear cut case of religious polarization.

Rightwingers wants Modi in Centre. afterall he is "NaMo" of his beloved followers. They want to spread his style of Hindutva Agenda forced on Whole Nation. They will argue that Narindra modi has no role in muslim massacre. We no he is the Pilate who lead the bloody massacre.whatever way he tries washing his hands to prove he is not..it won't. Hope We can See Him Punished by the Judiciary. Hindutva Fascists.. what happened in Godhra CANNOT be justified. the Rightwing Hindu Organizations most of them have Hands in it.

Some says, Muslims incited violence against Kar Sevaks travelling in Train. Ok, Agreed it is true. BUT..the fact is Kar Sevaks are the Mujahideen of Rightwing Hinduism...That too has to be understood.

I cannot believe what this Uttar Pradeshi musulman are asking to Modi. such a shame. No One can make peace with a religious fundamentalist.

 

[DarK-LorD]

While it's true that Gujarat has grown at astonishingly high rates in the past few years,there are still large numbers of development issues which needs to be taken care off.

 

[JonAsad]

As opposed to brave Muslims of Pakistan who's genocide on Bengali Muslims pales pot pol regime? Heck number of people killed in Karachi alone in last years pales Gujrat where Hindus too were killed.

Prove plz- i hate blunt lies-

The ones involve in Bangladesh we despise them- we dont consider them as heroes- unlike you-

 

[Nalwa]

Here's Infant mortality data from the 2009-10 economic survey. Gujarat is 21st in a list of 35 states and UTs
This info isnt hard to access. One just has to search the internet rather than believe everything that the right-wingers say.

States/Union Territorries 1961 2007 2008
No .
Male Female Person Male Female Person Male Female Person
1. Kerala 55 48 52 14 10 13 10 13 12
2. Puducherry 77 68 73 31 22 25 22 27 25
3. Mizoram 73 65 69 27 16 23 37 38 37
4. Manipur 31 33 32 13 9 12 13 15 14
5. Andaman & Nicobar Islands 78 66 77 38 23 34 29 32 31
6. Lakshadweep 124 88 118 25 23 24 29 34 31
7. Chandigarh 53 53 53 25 28 27 27 29 28
8. Goa 60 56 57 11 13 13 10 11 10
9. Arunachal Pradesh 141 111 126 41 15 37 30 34 32
10. Jammu & Kashmir 78 78 78 53 38 51 48 51 49
11. Maharashtra 96 89 92 41 24 34 33 33 33
12. Tripura 106 116 111 40 32 39 34 35 34
13. Delhi 66 70 67 41 35 36 34 37 35
14. Meghalaya 81 76 79 57 46 56 58 58 58
15. Sikkim 105 87 96 36 20 34 34 32 33
16. Tamil Nadu 89 82 86 38 31 35 30 33 31
17. West Bengal 103 57 95 39 29 37 34 37 35
18. Punjab 74 79 77 47 35 43 39 43 41
19. Karnataka 87 74 81 52 35 47 44 46 45
20. Dadra & Nagar Haveli 102 93 98 38 18 34 33 35 34
21. Gujarat 81 84 84 60 36 52 49 51 50

 

[SpArK]

Here's Infant mortality data from the 2009-10 economic survey. Gujarat is 21st in a list of 35 states and UTs
This info isnt hard to access. One just has to search the internet rather than believe everything that the right-wingers say.

States/Union Territorries 1961 2007 2008
No .
Male Female Person Male Female Person Male Female Person
1. Kerala 55 48 52 14 10 13 10 13 12
2. Puducherry 77 68 73 31 22 25 22 27 25
3. Mizoram 73 65 69 27 16 23 37 38 37
4. Manipur 31 33 32 13 9 12 13 15 14
5. Andaman & Nicobar Islands 78 66 77 38 23 34 29 32 31
6. Lakshadweep 124 88 118 25 23 24 29 34 31
7. Chandigarh 53 53 53 25 28 27 27 29 28
8. Goa 60 56 57 11 13 13 10 11 10
9. Arunachal Pradesh 141 111 126 41 15 37 30 34 32
10. Jammu & Kashmir 78 78 78 53 38 51 48 51 49
11. Maharashtra 96 89 92 41 24 34 33 33 33
12. Tripura 106 116 111 40 32 39 34 35 34
13. Delhi 66 70 67 41 35 36 34 37 35
14. Meghalaya 81 76 79 57 46 56 58 58 58
15. Sikkim 105 87 96 36 20 34 34 32 33
16. Tamil Nadu 89 82 86 38 31 35 30 33 31
17. West Bengal 103 57 95 39 29 37 34 37 35
18. Punjab 74 79 77 47 35 43 39 43 41
19. Karnataka 87 74 81 52 35 47 44 46 45
20. Dadra & Nagar Haveli 102 93 98 38 18 34 33 35 34
21. Gujarat 81 84 84 60 36 52 49 51 50

hmm not so bad among the bigger states.