Wikileaks:Saudi-funded Madrassas in Punjab providing recruits for militants

[Solomon2]

Religion is for sale in our country and no religious party is actually serving Pakistan...be very sure of that!

Your country is for sale because there never was a shared consensus about what Pakistan is for by its inhabitants. Thus, your institutions are unusually open to foreign influence and domestic corruption.

The fix is for YOU to take up the battle for identity, to strive with and against others, gathering support in the contest for democratic leadership. Otherwise the door is left open for others to push you around as they wish - generals, mullahs, foreigners, etc.

 

[RazorMC]

... If you recall there was a recent killing of a Saudi consulate officer in Karachi.
While a most unfortunate event and worth strong condemnation; i could not help but notice that a major religious organization protested this action in Pakistan by coming in the streets and burning tires on the road...

Who were protesting ?

 

[ghamai]

I'm wondering now, is there any country left which hasnt been involved in interference with Pakistan ?? 'cuz this is gettin' very ridiculous

 

[All-Green]

Who were protesting ?

Dear,

While there was strong condemnation from Jamaat Islami as well, the group protesting while burning tires on the road in Karachi was the Jamiat Ahle Hadith.
They follow the Salafi school of thought and are one of the biggest beneficiaries of some supporters in KSA.

I wish our countrymen get rid of these paid goons and try to understand Islam by seeking peace in it, rather than delegating it to some twisted and violent Mullahs who cannot help but manipulate people by promoting negative emotions.

 

[muse]

Roots of terrorism
By Muhammad Amir Rana


THE assault by terrorists on a naval aviation base in Karachi has once again demonstrated the extent of the roots of terrorism in the country.

Even if the attackers did not have sympathisers and informants inside, the way they carried out the assault shows they had an active network in neighbouring areas and an operational cell through which they managed to procure heavy weapons and carry them into the naval base. The same can be said of other high-profile terrorist attacks targeting security forces throughout the country, including the October 2009 attack on GHQ in Rawalpindi.

The spread and reach of terrorists in Pakistan has become a critical challenge for the state. The attacks that they have launched have shown that they are capable of striking anywhere in the country. And yet ambiguity remains pervasive in society on the issue of terrorism. The collective mindset reflects a state of out-and-out denial.

The conventional approach to threat perception in Pakistan is a major obstacle to understanding the gravity of the situation. Whether they publicly admit it or not, Pakistani security officials and policymakers consider madressahs and religiously inclined communities to be more receptive or vulnerable to absorbing violent tendencies. That approach is also reflected in the country’s counter-terrorism strategies and is on display everyday at security checkpoints, where every bearded man is seen as a suspect. The madressahs indeed have a significant share in the ongoing wave of violence, and many analysts believe that between 10 and 15 per cent of them have direct or indirect links with terrorist organisations. But focusing on them alone amounts to taking a simplistic view of a wider problem.

A closer look at the cadre of militant organisations involved in Kashmir and Afghanistan finds mainly youth educated at formal educational institutions. Student wings of religious political parties as well as sectarian, charity, radical and militant organisations remain active in colleges and universities. Other wings of such organisations seek to influence various segments of society.

Almost every religious organisation, whether its ambitions are political, sectarian or militant, maintains wings with a specific focus on women, traders, lawyers, doctors and teachers, among others. These wings play a considerable role in promoting radicalisation and have an array of tools at their disposal to increase their influence. They consistently rely on radical literature and publications and disseminate the message not only through the usual printed word but also through CDs and DVDs. Militant organisations in Pakistan are increasingly using the Internet as an instrument to promote radicalisation and spur recruitment, with the youth as their specific target.

International terrorist organisations, such as Al Qaeda, have also benefited from this level of radicalisation, by generating financial and human resources as well as cultivating favourable perceptions among the populace in some parts of the country. According to an Asia Online report, several hundred students from Karachi affiliated with the student wing of an offshoot of a religious political party have joined Al Qaeda training camps in North Waziristan Agency in Fata. The report described that as a more dangerous development for Pakistan than any previous Al Qaeda alliance, as student wings can boast Al Qaeda’s recruitment drive and enhance its political influence.

One of the most critical segments of society in the country includes government departments, mainly security institutions, where the infiltration of terrorists and extremists is increasing by all accounts. Former president Gen Pervez Musharraf admitted in 2004 that some junior officials of the Pakistan Army and Pakistan Air Force (PAF) had links with terrorist organisations. Later, 57 PAF employees were arrested in connection with an assassination attempt on Gen Musharraf. At least some of the arrested PAF employees have also been convicted on the charge. Dr Usman, the mastermind of the October 2009 GHQ attack, was a deserter from the army’s medical corps.

The terrorists have also penetrated other government institutions besides the security agencies. According to the Pakistan Security Report 2010 by the Islamabad-based think tank Pak Institute for Peace Studies (PIPS), the Khyber Pakhtunkhwa government had constituted a committee to sack government employees found guilty of supporting militants. As many as 165 government employees were sacked on that ground.

The former divisional commissioner of Malakand, Syed Muhammad Jawed, who was taken into custody for suspected links with terrorists, may be one example of the terrorists’ influence in high places. There are many more, which shows the vulnerability of state institutions. Last year, police in Islamabad arrested an employee of the Council of Islamic Ideology, who had allegedly helped Faisal Shahzad, the New York bomb plot suspect who was convicted on terrorism charges.

The challenge is considerable by all means but it has become graver still because a coherent counter-terrorism and counter-militancy policy and the requisite vigilance by government agencies continue to remain absent. Accurate threat perception is the key to an effective response to terrorist threats. A clear approach that does not make distinctions on dubious grounds of good and bad militants is required. Vetting and security clearance of government officials, mainly in law-enforcement departments, is more crucial than ever.

Better policing and coordination among law-enforcement agencies must be the obvious first steps, but it is also abundantly clear by now that a one-size-fits-all security approach would not work in Pakistan anymore simply because of the dissimilar security challenges. For instance, security threats in the tribal areas and parts of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa are inherently different from those in Punjab and urban Sindh. The tribal areas are in the throes of an extremist militancy, which has a local and regional context and the militants have resorted to violent terrorism as a tactic against the security forces.

In mainland Pakistan, however, terrorism has its roots in the ideological, political and sectarian narratives developed by the religious parties, militant groups and, at times, by the state itself. The disparate nature of threats calls for an equally diverse and imaginative approach to counter them.

The writer is editor of the quarterly research journal Conflict and Peace Studies.

mamirrana@yahoo.com

 

[TalibanSwatter]

Roots of terrorism
By Muhammad Amir Rana


THE assault by terrorists on a naval aviation base in Karachi has once again demonstrated the extent of the roots of terrorism in the country.

Even if the attackers did not have sympathisers and informants inside, the way they carried out the assault shows they had an active network in neighbouring areas and an operational cell through which they managed to procure heavy weapons and carry them into the naval base. The same can be said of other high-profile terrorist attacks targeting security forces throughout the country, including the October 2009 attack on GHQ in Rawalpindi.

The spread and reach of terrorists in Pakistan has become a critical challenge for the state. The attacks that they have launched have shown that they are capable of striking anywhere in the country. And yet ambiguity remains pervasive in society on the issue of terrorism. The collective mindset reflects a state of out-and-out denial.

The conventional approach to threat perception in Pakistan is a major obstacle to understanding the gravity of the situation. Whether they publicly admit it or not, Pakistani security officials and policymakers consider madressahs and religiously inclined communities to be more receptive or vulnerable to absorbing violent tendencies. That approach is also reflected in the country’s counter-terrorism strategies and is on display everyday at security checkpoints, where every bearded man is seen as a suspect. The madressahs indeed have a significant share in the ongoing wave of violence, and many analysts believe that between 10 and 15 per cent of them have direct or indirect links with terrorist organisations. But focusing on them alone amounts to taking a simplistic view of a wider problem.

A closer look at the cadre of militant organisations involved in Kashmir and Afghanistan finds mainly youth educated at formal educational institutions. Student wings of religious political parties as well as sectarian, charity, radical and militant organisations remain active in colleges and universities. Other wings of such organisations seek to influence various segments of society.

Almost every religious organisation, whether its ambitions are political, sectarian or militant, maintains wings with a specific focus on women, traders, lawyers, doctors and teachers, among others. These wings play a considerable role in promoting radicalisation and have an array of tools at their disposal to increase their influence. They consistently rely on radical literature and publications and disseminate the message not only through the usual printed word but also through CDs and DVDs. Militant organisations in Pakistan are increasingly using the Internet as an instrument to promote radicalisation and spur recruitment, with the youth as their specific target.

International terrorist organisations, such as Al Qaeda, have also benefited from this level of radicalisation, by generating financial and human resources as well as cultivating favourable perceptions among the populace in some parts of the country. According to an Asia Online report, several hundred students from Karachi affiliated with the student wing of an offshoot of a religious political party have joined Al Qaeda training camps in North Waziristan Agency in Fata. The report described that as a more dangerous development for Pakistan than any previous Al Qaeda alliance, as student wings can boast Al Qaeda’s recruitment drive and enhance its political influence.

One of the most critical segments of society in the country includes government departments, mainly security institutions, where the infiltration of terrorists and extremists is increasing by all accounts. Former president Gen Pervez Musharraf admitted in 2004 that some junior officials of the Pakistan Army and Pakistan Air Force (PAF) had links with terrorist organisations. Later, 57 PAF employees were arrested in connection with an assassination attempt on Gen Musharraf. At least some of the arrested PAF employees have also been convicted on the charge. Dr Usman, the mastermind of the October 2009 GHQ attack, was a deserter from the army’s medical corps.

The terrorists have also penetrated other government institutions besides the security agencies. According to the Pakistan Security Report 2010 by the Islamabad-based think tank Pak Institute for Peace Studies (PIPS), the Khyber Pakhtunkhwa government had constituted a committee to sack government employees found guilty of supporting militants. As many as 165 government employees were sacked on that ground.

The former divisional commissioner of Malakand, Syed Muhammad Jawed, who was taken into custody for suspected links with terrorists, may be one example of the terrorists’ influence in high places. There are many more, which shows the vulnerability of state institutions. Last year, police in Islamabad arrested an employee of the Council of Islamic Ideology, who had allegedly helped Faisal Shahzad, the New York bomb plot suspect who was convicted on terrorism charges.

The challenge is considerable by all means but it has become graver still because a coherent counter-terrorism and counter-militancy policy and the requisite vigilance by government agencies continue to remain absent. Accurate threat perception is the key to an effective response to terrorist threats. A clear approach that does not make distinctions on dubious grounds of good and bad militants is required. Vetting and security clearance of government officials, mainly in law-enforcement departments, is more crucial than ever.

Better policing and coordination among law-enforcement agencies must be the obvious first steps, but it is also abundantly clear by now that a one-size-fits-all security approach would not work in Pakistan anymore simply because of the dissimilar security challenges. For instance, security threats in the tribal areas and parts of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa are inherently different from those in Punjab and urban Sindh. The tribal areas are in the throes of an extremist militancy, which has a local and regional context and the militants have resorted to violent terrorism as a tactic against the security forces.

In mainland Pakistan, however, terrorism has its roots in the ideological, political and sectarian narratives developed by the religious parties, militant groups and, at times, by the state itself. The disparate nature of threats calls for an equally diverse and imaginative approach to counter them.

The writer is editor of the quarterly research journal Conflict and Peace Studies.

mamirrana@yahoo.com

A clear and present danger for the nation.

 

[Mavrick]

taht's not what the wikileaks cables suggest -- anyway I do recall Musharraf tryijng to reason with the emerati and saying that it would while bombs go off in Karachi seemigly eveery other day, it would be bad for buisiness if the same started happening in the Emrates.

But please don't believe us or wikileaks -- arbis love pakistines.

Arabs love Pakis? Obviously u hav never been to the Gulf. They treat all their employees like salves/animals.

They call u Hindi over there which means Indian. Dont even consider u a separate nation

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Dear,

While there was strong condemnation from Jamaat Islami as well, the group protesting while burning tires on the road in Karachi was the Jamiat Ahle Hadith.
They follow the Salafi school of thought and are one of the biggest beneficiaries of some supporters in KSA.

I wish our countrymen get rid of these paid goons and try to understand Islam by seeking peace in it, rather than delegating it to some twisted and violent Mullahs who cannot help but manipulate people by promoting negative emotions.

Agreed!!!

---------- Post added at 04:56 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:54 PM ----------

again wikileaks oh sorry CIALEAKS these leaks are getting dumber and dumber by the day

You are an idiot. US was the one that was harmed since it was their messages that got leaked OK.

 

[Mavrick]

Ahl-e-Hadith -- maybe.
But why would KSA send money to Deobandi groups ?

Deobandi is the subcontinent form of Salfi/wahabi Islam so it makes sense. Basically same thing different name

 

[Mavrick]

On the dot!.. but one needs to explain to Muslims and Non-Muslims alike that what is being enforced as Islam by these terrorists is NOT the real Islam, Real Islam is what is in Qur'an and Sunnah..

We have allowed people to just bad mouth our religion without even knowing what it is..

Just my two cents..

That is the form of Islam dominant in the Gulf. SHAME ON SAUDIS FOR USING RELIGION IN THIS MANNER

 

[Mavrick]

All news channels asking same question. all these terrorism are funded by saudi oil money but there is no terrorism in saudi. these ###### used pakistan as their tool against others.

In Saudi-Arabia anybody that gets out of line they chop their head off or hand or lash. Here in Pakistan they have the freedom to basically do anything and get away with it.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

In Saudi-Arabia anybody that gets out of line they chop their head off or hand or lash. Here in Pakistan they have the freedom to basically do anything and get away with it.

sorry correction

here such peopel are hailed as heros and pelted with rose petals and praises
glowing examples

Malik Ishaq
Molana Abdul Aziz
Mumtaaz Qadri and many more

and because they are at odds with the security forces, our Lawyers also decide to side with them for the sake of hatred towards the Army or security agencies.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

A clear and present danger for the nation.

yet it seems that its acceptible to get the chairty from these "brothers" who are actually funding one group to spill the blood of other faiths and religions but only ciriticise the charity from the Americans.

 

[Donatello]

Saudis man...what a vicious society they have. May Allah give them the correct guidance.

 

[Tshering22]

This was always there. Pakistan is still yet to realize the danger of not being able to hold itself strong and ideologically independent from Middle East like Turkey does.

 

[alphamale]

This was always there. Pakistan is still yet to realize the danger of not being able to hold itself strong and ideologically independent from Middle East like Turkey does.

it is difficult for pakistan to develop ideology which has no influence of arab world because most Pakistanis look towards arab world for everything. majority of them blindly believe or follow arab world. i do not want to offend anyone but sometimes Pakistanis project Arabs as superior to them. they always say only good things abt arabs, they can't hear anything bad abt arabs, which unfortunately is not vice versa.