Wikileaks:India, Iran Supported TTP

[unicorn]

I accept that point to a fair degree, you know what the say. You reap what you ...

Don't jump to the conclusion so early my friend.If you are intermixing Talibans with the TTP then you will never reach a fair conclusion.Make one thing very clear Taliban are the people of Afghanistan.

 

[CaptainJackSparrow]

Ahh Indians are questioning wikileaks when India is mentioned as a state carrying out terrorism in Pakistans But you are ready to accept wikileaks as authentic when it come to blaming Pakistan and ISI and even Kiyani lolzz who is the most apolitical person in the history of Pakistani top brass officers.


So lets first clear it once of all

A. Either wikileaks are true entirely and there should be NO denial from any country

B. Or wikileaks are Lies entirely and NO one should believe it.



So come up with your stand first and i will debate this believing and non-believing later

READ THIS:

Let's not rush into posting before reading the OP, shall we?

ISLAMABAD: UAE's security officials believed that India along with Iran had supported the Pakistani Taliban and Pushtun separatists, even as US suggested that UAE was a source of funding for the militants, a diplomatic cable released by WikiLeaks discloses.

The strange allegation by UAE officials is noted in a State Department cable which reports the details of a meeting between officials of the US Treasury Department and those of UAE's State Security Department (SSD) and Dubai's General Department of State Security (GDSS) to discuss suspected Taliban-related financial activity in the UAE.

Read carefully without prejudice.

This actually is a blame game going on between UAE and US diplomats.

BTW, the country friendly to India (UAE) says India is supporting the TTP and the country friendly to you (US) says UAE, and not India, is supporting the TTP.

 

[GentlemanObserver]

Don't jump to the conclusion so early my friend.If you are intermixing Talibans with the TTP then you will never reach a fair conclusion.Make one thing very clear Taliban are the people of Afghanistan.

Ohh but i was referring to uncle sam. TTP is well shall we say a different breed of animal and i know that very well, the Taliban, well we all know how that started and why?

And now the spawn of their own loins has come back to stab them in the back, can you blame them?

As for the TTP, rest assured i know the threat they pose the forces behind them....

 

[mayankmatador]

ISLAMABAD: UAE's security officials believed that India along with Iran had supported the Pakistani Taliban and Pushtun separatists, even as US suggested that UAE was a source of funding for the militants, a diplomatic cable released by WikiLeaks discloses.



India, Iran supported Pak Taliban: leaks - GEO.tv

its clearly said UAE officials believed,,, did they had any proof..


I also believe pakistan hand behind 9/11 now have a discussion.

 

[unicorn]

Ohh but i was referring to uncle sam. TTP is well shall we say a different breed of animal and i know that very well, the Taliban, well we all know how that started and why?

And now the spawn of their own loins has come back to stab them in the back, can you blame them?

No I don't blame them.Anyone can stab you in the back.

As for the TTP, rest assured i know the threat they pose the forces behind them....

Yes TTP has to be eliminated if some one is providing financial backing.If there is no financial backing which possibly don't seems to be because SWAT operation gives us very clear cut directions.That is the same reason why Paksiatan army is not considering operation in the NW and they are doing exactly the right thing.Because they have now figured out how to defeat these kinds of threats.The solution is the Local support there.The day before yesterday batch of IDP's go back to their homes in wazirstan.We are also seeing pictures today of a school opening and other developments done directly by the Army.

Now let me make you understand why they are not directly taking option of operation.First reason is we know their is a financial backing which is confirmed.Second thing is that this time the conditions will be different because they (the TTP) should have improvised from their mistakes from SWAT operations and there are chances with strong support from other sources they can inflict severe damage this time.

These are the two most fundamental reasons why army is not taking the option of direct Operation.

Instead Army being wise enough they can play the same trick which work in SWAT operation.Army is currently giving a sense that it will take targeted operations which is wise enough.

The equation is simple enough with our foes here............

 

[Irfan Baloch]

@Unicorn

dont start the flame..

we understand that UAE is trying to counter the allegations about its support of the religous extremist organisations and their political wings like Jamiat Islami
....

 

[Omar1984]

clam down bro. calm down !!

this is the real face of Iran... Iran was/is supporting pkk terrorists since 1984 against Turkiye...

That's why nobody likes Iran at this area !! So we don't want it has nukes and this is the biggest reason for Saudis to beside of US .... You cant believe and trust to Iran !!!

You're right brother.


Pakistan's only real friends are Turkey and China.

 

[unicorn]

@Unicorn

dont start the flame..

we understand that UAE is trying to counter the allegations about its support of the religous extremist organisations and their political wings like Jamiat Islami
....

You are pathetically predictable.I understand it from your first post.In which direction you take the matter.

 

[Screambowl]

I dont understand, where does it say that India is involved? They believed that MAY BE Indians were Involved.
If they have proof then just show us.

Tomorrow if UAE says or some other country says that Pakistan was behind 9/11 who supported Osama Bin Laden and funded the attacks, how far it's going to be correct without the proofs?

There is no Indian interest in supporting TTP. This is a Useless Thread. A few days Back, I read it in some leak That these militants are Arab, Afghani and Khazikistani as told by ISI chief.

Suddenly UAE started allegations on India??

This is complete Absurd!!!! Double minded Leakss. I see no reality.

 

[humanfirst]

I think india should demand an explanation from UAE.btw does anyone here have copy of that cable?

 

[Irfan Baloch]

I think india should demand an explanation from UAE.btw does anyone here have copy of that cable?

this is a simple trick played by them.. UAE is being blamed for terror funding across the globe along with Saudi Arabia.
so they throw in the name of Iran whom they have regional disputes.
looks like their trick worked, my fellow members are huffed and puffed up to teach Iran a lesson.. an only neighbour were we dont have any tensions along the border.

if Pakistan and Iran move their forces along the border then UAE wont even give a flying fart.. they will just build another beach resort or an F1 track.

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

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So lets first clear it once of all

A. Either wikileaks are true entirely and there should be NO denial from any country
B. Or wikileaks are Lies entirely and NO one should believe it.

o come up with your stand first and i will debate this believing and non-believing later

I don't know why the question of authenticity comes here?

If its the authenticity of the opinion,then that person who gave it should be questioned.

Wikileaks is merely a medium of getting these opinions ,which were diplomatically not overt.

Just like we use google to travese through the net.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Yes but they are taken as opinion only, not as prove.

---------- Post added at 11:49 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:48 AM ----------

Anyone has seen the actual cable as yet? :s

Why are we debating this when the original transcript is not available at all and the only source seems to be weird Pakistani sources. Even Dawn is not covering this shyt!

You should read through the posts in the thread before commenting. A link to the Guardian that has the text of the original cable was posted back in post 68. It was also pointed out that Arab and Indian newspapers (Hindustan Times etc.) had also carried the same story with the same headline.

US embassy cables: Afghan Taliban and Haqqani Network using United Arab Emirates as funding base | World news | guardian.co.uk

 

[flameboard]

Wake up call for some Pakistanis who consider iran as our "friends and brothers"

Some of you are so gullible. Persons within the Governmetns of the Arabian Peninsula have been making stuff up about Iran for long time, many will say anything to get rid of iran's influence. Plus much of the Arabian governments are full of Wahabis so they have a sentiment to do away with Iran due to its Shia majority, since the Wahabis hate Shia and openly attack them, Iran would never support the Taliban because it has been against the extremists from the beginning, since the time of Zia-Ul-Haq.

Iran has also been fighting the Taliban longer than Pakistan its just more successful at keeping them out, which is why we rarely hear anything about Taliban inside Iran and more about encounters at the border.


Its gullible persons like the ones I find on here that makes me worried about the future of Pakistan. Always do research, a country won't just throw money away because some other country is doing it too. You have to see the goals and views of every side, examine if what is being said fits into logic.

UAE is more likely to support Taliban than Iran, because UAE has a Wahabis in its government who openly support the actions of the Taliban.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Some of you are so gullible. Persons within the Governmetns of the Arabian Peninsula have been making stuff up about Iran for long time, many will say anything to get rid of iran's influence.

whats more.. these reported meetings are a year old according to the link provided..
but my question is .. why didnt our Arabian "brothers" bothered to inform our goverment.

and why did they only brought this up when the Americans confronted them to explain the fund raising events in UAE by the pro Al qaeda elements?
why only after being held to answer a terror related question did they mention Iranian and Indian support of Pakistani Taliban?

so, if true.. would this meeting have stayed in the dark unless it was leaked?

Iran has openly supported Nothern Alliance during their fight with Taliban.. but the allegation of supporting its mortal enemy is shocking and mind bogling.

Taliban execute Iranian Diplomats


another link from wikipedia
1998 Iranian diplomats assassination in Afghanistan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I know that people would say that Pakistani and Afghan taliban are different and there is a chance that Iran is helping them then I will yet again point them to look at the Siphah Sahabah's attacks and killings of Iranian Diplomats and staff in Khana Furhangs (cultrual centres)

Pakistan happens to be the only country with a big border with Iran that has no hostility towards it.. while other Arabain brothers are begging America and praying Israel to attack Iran.. Pakistan has no such wishes.


in comes a "leaked" story that is almost a year old where Americans confront UAE for its terror funding that is helping Taliban to attack NATO in Afghanistan.. and they respond with Iranian and Indian hand in Pakistani terrorist activities..

really confused.. even if this absurd answer was allowed.. why didnt any of the parties in the said meeting decided to inform the victim country? i.e. Pakistan?

they are one smart bunch.. I was so wrong.. they might succeed in making the only silent border that Pakistan and Iran have (and that too among themselves) into a war fevered one.