Wife's consent for man's second marriage not needed: Pakistan body

[karan.1970]

why you are hitting your head to walls.. Its their country, their religion and theirs laws ..it will not be applicable to you or any american out there

I am not an american.. these morons exist in my country too and hence I am hitting my head against the wall since some of the members here seem to be defending them.

 

[Sugarcane]

I know polygamy is rare in our society and its not compulsory in Islam either but What are your understanding of this law?

Do Muslim men need consent/permission of first wife to go for second?

I think no women will give permission of second marrige even if her husband can do justice to all his wives..

If she don't agree than don't go or tell the first one before marriage that you may go for 3 more marriages, so that she can think about marrying you.

 

[RAMPAGE]

If she don't agree than don't go or tell the first one before marriage that you may go for 3 more marriages, so that she can think about marrying you.

Exactly.

I think if there's an agreement before the marriage between the two then the husband can't break it.

 

[Raja.Pakistani]

I agree about the objectification but do you think it doesn't happen in Muslim societies? For example one man marrying multiple women could be seen as objectification under any reason. I can post a documentary from Iran in which the Mullah himself talks about women as some sex objects to have fun and then dump.

I never said all Muslims are innocent and dont do wrong things in the name of religion. I have given reasons why polygamy was allowed in the first place. Men used to be killed in wars and left their women and kids behind them who had no body to look after them. Now people go for second marriage for sexual gratification but marriage is responsibility and its not for fun or adventure. You take this responsibility when you have ability to fulfill all the responsibilities come with it . Have you ever thought why people in UK run away from taking this responsibility? they prefer to live as gf/bfs and keep changing them like clothes. They will prefer to live in temporary relationship for years but will never marry to each others because its some sort of burden to them so they both are selfish in this sense that they both use each others for limited period and then move on leaving many singles mums behind them.

If she don't agree than don't go or tell the first one before marriage that you may go for 3 more marriages, so that she can think about marrying you.

I was not asking about feelings of women but whether her permission is must or not as per your understanding of Islam..off course no women will feel good to share her husband even if God allow it

 

[BATMAN]

Either you should agree that Islam can be interpreted as per current age and is flexible OR everything and interpretation of 7th century should be taken word by word. You can't jump from one position to other as per wish.

Sorry what you quoted was not suppose to release.... i quit writing it.
I will go back and delete it.

I have a broken key board and mouse.... i'm suffering due to it, while editing and typing.

 

[joekrish]

Do these people making this law get beaten up by their wives daily?

 

[BATMAN]

Wife's permission is indeed not needed... when she is unfit, mentally or physically. Now, use the provision as you deem rate your wife...

 

[Sliver]

Dont judge Islamic laws based on american laws. Women are not free to do because we had no DNA test in past to find out who is the daddy of baby if women keep two husband at the same time.. second marriage was not for fun/sex either just like some Arab sheikh misuse this permission these days ..It was there to marry with widows whose husband got killed in wars and it was more like giving them security and taking the financial responsibilities of these women and their kids..Hijab is also for men not just for women. We don't believe that treating women as sex object is some sort of honor to them

treat them as humans - give them education - they can take care of themselves. they do not need to be "taken care of". You underestimate that and forget that women also have the same amount of brain power as men and can compete with men in pretty much most intellect based economic opportunities.
Marriage is an institution with equal participation between two humans. If you allow a guy to marry without his wife knowing about it, why not allow a woman to marry without her husband knowing as well? How can you (being a male) decide for a woman's right?

Pakistani people should rise against these molvis for whom women are comfort materails and can be owned like cattles. new generation of Pakistanis should shut them up.

can you please help me get a condemnation of the law from @Raja.Pakistani ? he has not condmned it and ranting about western laws and eastern laws (off topic). It will help in educating people about what they should do when such horrible events take place

 

[notsuperstitious]

second marriage was not for fun/sex either just like some Arab sheikh misuse this permission these days ..

Could you tell me the year from which this provision started getting misused?

 

[Raja.Pakistani]

treat them as humans - give them education - they can take care of themselves. they do not need to be "taken care of". You underestimate that and forget that women also have the same amount of brain power as men and can compete with men in pretty much most intellect based economic opportunities.
Marriage is an institution with equal participation between two humans. If you allow a guy to marry without his wife knowing about it, why not allow a woman to marry without her husband knowing as well? How can you (being a male) decide for a woman's right?

Hey silver i gave you advice that don't compare Islamic laws and gender roles with that of american society because you will confuse yourself Muslim women can get education and can even work but guess what its still responsibility of husband to support his wives and children without taking a single penny from wives and thats where we differ to western society who expect from women to contribute equally in everything. Btw how many women have been president of United state of America?

To take permission from wife for second marriage is one thing and to marry without your first wife knowing about it is another. I don't know which one you are talking about but topic is about first one

can you please help me get a condemnation of the law from @Raja.Pakistani ? he has not condmned it and ranting about western laws and eastern laws (off topic). It will help in educating people about what they should do when such horrible events take place

Why you want me to condemned it? Its not me but God(of Muslims) who made it clear that men can have more than one wife under certain rules and regulation while women cannot keep two husband at same time..Its not me or any mullah who written it. If you follow your religion then you follow its teaching even if it don't make sense to those who dont follow this religion

 

[jatt+gutts]

can a molvi allow his wife to b shared with three other men..

 

[livingdead]

only osama could do justice to all his wives.. but then he watched awful lot of porns and was probably doing yoga and shit.

 

[friendly_troll96]

Somebody chop off this molvi's souda.

 

[araz]

Pakistan's constitutional body which gives legal advice to the government on religious issues has said a man does not need his wife's consent for a second marriage, prompting angry reactions on social media.
The Council of Islamic Ideology, known as CII, said the Pakistani laws regarding second marriage of a man in the presence of first wife were against religious principles. "Sharia allows men to have more than one wife and we demanded that the government should amend the law," Council's chairman Maulana Mohammad Khan Sheerani told reporters yesterday after a meeting on the issue.

Sheerani said seeking permission from one's wife before entering into another marriage is not necessary. The council met in Islamabad and analysed the existing family laws in Pakistan.

Sheerani said Islamic Sharia law does not require permission from a wife before a man enters into another marriage, while according to the Muslim Family Law 1961, permission from any existing wives is mandatory. He said this was contrary to Islamic Sharia law. "We urge the government to formulate Sharia-compliant laws related to nikah, divorce, adulthood and 'will'," Sheerani said.

Pakistani documentary maker Sharmeen Obaid-Chinoy, whose film on acid attack victims won an Oscar in 2012, tweeted, "The council of Islamic ideology making us proud yet again! Wife's consent not needed for another marriage". Zahid Hussain, one of Pakistan's leading analysts, tweeted, "Seems the Taliban have already taken over. Wife's consent unnecessary for another marriage". Nilofer Afridi Qazi, an activist, tweeted, "CII disempowers women. Pak is just getting better & better.

Why not just drop the bomb on ourselves? save the hassle". Facebook was also buzzing with similar outbursts.

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[Raja.Pakistani]

only osama could do justice to all his wives.. but then he watched awful lot of porns and was probably doing yoga and shit.

Hinduguy is ok to shag as much women as he like but if he take only three of them as wives and take their responsibility as a husband and stick to them then he will become bad guy...These days girls and guys cannot even count how many people they have been slept with but a shreef guy who only keep three women (not for one night stand) but as wives considered evil

its easy to take pleasure from women and leave them than taking pain of keeping this headache for rest of the life ..what you say?