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22 October 2012 Last updated at 17:21 GMT


Why would you leave the West for India?



Rising numbers of people of Indian origin born in the West are moving "back" to the country their parents left decades ago. With India's economy growing faster than America or Britain's, the BBC's Rajini Vaidyanathan has been speaking to some of the new wave of "reverse migrants" who are seeking opportunities as well as a cultural connection.

I am more Indian than my parents. Officially, anyway.

To me this is more than an irony. Mum and dad were born in India, speak the languages, cook the food properly, and know all the customs and cultures.

I, on the other hand, was born in Aylesbury in the UK, raised in Milton Keynes, and spent the best part of a decade living in London. I have a very British sense of humour, can just about tie a sari and have still never managed to roll a decent chappati.

But in the eyes of the law, I'm now the more "Indian" one.

While my parents gave up their Indian passports many years back, last October I became an "Overseas Citizen of India" - also known as an OCI card holder. Those with one retain their nationality, but are also issued a lifelong visa for India, allowing them to work and live in the country indefinitely.

The scheme, which began in 2005, is open to the grandchildren and children of people born in India as well as former Indian nationals. Since its inception, it has been taken up by more than a million people and is just one sign of a growing reverse trend, where the children of those who left their country decades ago, are moving to India.

Rajiv Khatri is one such example. He moved to the southern city of Bangalore from America. I meet him and his three friends, all OCI card holders from the US, as they tuck into French fries and nachos.


Rajiv Khatri now calls India home When Rajiv packed his bags for India four years ago, his parents were less than impressed.

"They were very stressed out and frustrated at me moving here. Even now, they're still praying that I go back to the US."

Rajiv's father left India in 1972, his mother followed in 1978, building a successful and stable life in the US. That their children, (Rajiv's brother has also moved to India) are chasing opportunity on the other side of the globe, is a fact hard to comprehend.


They're not alone, so many of the generation who left India in the 1960s and 1970s (my parents included) find it hard to understand why their children would give up the so-called American or British dream, in search of the opposite, the Indian dream.

Rajiv says he cannot imagine moving back to America anytime soon. As an entrepreneur, he runs a health and wellness start-up - 360living.in - with two other bright and articulate Indian Americans who moved to India, Rahul Thadani and Raj Chinai.

Rajiv says that he, his wife Sarah and their three children have a better lifestyle than they had Stateside, but the real pull was being able to connect to the India he had heard about, but never really knew.

"I was always seen as different in the US, and I always had cultural and ancestral roots to India - so for me coming back to India is a bit like coming 'home' - in so many ways it's where I come from. I wanted to have a greater impact from where my roots are and I think for a lot of people who are of Indian origin that's one of the driving factors."

Being able to straddle American and Indian sensibilities makes the move far easier for movers of Indian origin, as they're already familiar with customs, traditions and language.

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I think every British Indian has it - it's that question of 'where do I come from?'”
Rahul Bathija
"A lot of non-Indians coming here might not be able to relate to Indians as well, I feel like I'm almost a liaison between the US and India," says Rahul Thadani, who relocated from New York to Bangalore seven years ago.

"The talent and education in the US is very strong and people are bringing those skills and applying them here."

I meet Rajiv and his friends in the Bangalore branch of the Hard Rock Cafe. With soft rock piping from the speakers and David Bowie and Hendrix pictures hanging on the walls, it feels like we could be anywhere in the world.

The increasing Westernisation of India has made it much easier and more comfortable for people to move here. It is a far cry from the the India this group of thirty-somethings visited on family holidays in the 1980s.

Valerie, 29, from the US. "India is not for the faint-hearted. But the opportunities are so exciting. No market is saturated, and there's a lot of room to innovate." Rahul, 37, from the US. "My parents had anticipated that I'd go back to the States, but five years on, I'm still here."
Elise, 30, from UK. "India has an exciting arts scene, and I'm working on the kinds of projects that wouldn't be possible back home."
Marco, 25, from Italy. "There is very little globally-focused work in Italy. The economy isn't doing well. Mumbai was very tough to start with but I've acclimatised and I now love it."
Igor, 23, from Brazil. "I wanted to work in another Brics country to broaden my knowledge and take that home with me. Whenever I tell anyone where I'm from, their eyes light up."
Sean, from the US, and Archana. "For us the Indian dream is the chance to bear witness to the incredible transformation happening in modern India and hopefully nudge it for the better."
Vir, from the US, and Malika, from Canada. "Our dream is to embark upon exciting opportunities and positively impact society. The difference is that in India right now, across many levels, it's possible."


The big change in India came in 1991, when it opened up its economy to the world after years of protectionism and an economic crisis. As governments subsequently slashed tariffs, a middle class emerged and poverty plummeted at the fastest rate in the country's history.

Today's India still has many problems - grinding poverty and malnutrition, corruption, poor infrastructure, inordinate amounts of bureaucracy - but it also has new wealth and opportunity, which is attracting entrepreneurial talent from around the world. The latest figures for the UK, for example, show that a record 30,000 people left Britain to make a life in India in 2010, a figure which is likely to have risen since.

A decade ago, maybe even less, if you told someone you were moving to India, you would be met with a raised eyebrow. One of my university friends told me I'd be "setting my career back" when I once discussed my dream of living in India.

'Money to be made'
For those who moved some time ago, like Rahul Bathija, the shift in attitudes has been apparent.

Born and raised in Birmingham in the English Midlands, Rahul moved to India in 1996, and was one of the few expats in Mumbai, which was then still called Bombay.

"India was a very slow developing economy at that point, and people looked at it and said 'What are you doing in India?'. Whereas now people say, 'Wow, you're in India'.

"Back then, we didn't have the fast food that was here... There weren't a variety of restaurants... Dress codes have changed, the country is less conservative than before and business dealings have become a lot more professional."

Today, Rahul Bathija is an entrepreneur at the helm of a successful mobile phone company, Bling Accessories, which makes cases and screen guards. He saw opportunity in an expanding but nascent mobile phone market in India. But, setting up a company in India is anything but plain sailing, he says stressing that his first few attempts at business in India failed.


Sid Shah swapped LA for Mumbai to make money The rewards for those who can navigate the hurdles and frustrations can be extremely lucrative. India's economy might be growing at a slower pace than previous years, but it still is expanding at a rate around the 5% mark, compared with Western economies which are stagnating. This is becoming a magnet for some of the brightest graduates, looking for lucrative markets. It's what lured Sid Shah, 35, from Los Angeles to Mumbai - Hollywood to Bollywood.

A hip Californian, who went to a prestigious business school in the US, Shah's company The Wild East works with big celebrities to build brands. He was already doing a similar thing in LA, but decided it made better business sense to move operations to India. The Wild East name reflects the untamed nature of the market here.

"The biggest reason I'm here is because of the opportunity plain and simple. That's the only reason you'd leave a relatively very highly paid job in Los Angeles to move to a place that doesn't quite understand what you're doing... and to a place that is also quite uncertain," says Sid.

The equation for him is straightforward: "I'm here because there's 1.2bn people and a lot of ways to service them, and at the end of the day I think there's a lot of money to be made," he says, adding that even a small dent in the vast Indian market has the potential to be larger than the US population.



'Burning question'
There are other reasons why the children of Indian migrants are heading east - a better quality of life, where domestic help means you avoid cooking and cleaning and spend more time with the family, and a lower cost of living are also commonly cited.


Much has changed since the first wave of Indian immigrants arrived in Britain
But there is another which is harder to define, which Rahul Bathija describes as the "burning question".

"I think every British Indian has it - it's that question of 'where do I come from?'

"Being born and brought up in England you have many questions about your culture - I think you can only answer those when you come here and you realise what's happening in India."

For others like Savitha Vij, who moved to Mumbai with her husband Vikas and their children, living in India means no longer being a visible minority. Savitha says she experienced racism while growing up in the UK, and hopes the move will mean her children aren't subjected to the same.

"In the UK I'm second generation, yet I still get asked, 'Where are you from?'. There's always a question mark that you're not from there.

"What I love about being here in India is that we get looked at as one of our own, for me that's something important I can give to the children."

For so many Indians from overseas who move here, however, there's still a sense of not quite belonging in India either. I still have very British sensibilities, and friends of mine have also been told they're "not Indian enough".

What this new trend is creating is in many ways is a new culture - perhaps like the immigrant culture which has helped to change so much of British and American life - where growing numbers of "reverse migrants" are redefining what the phrase "British Indian" or "Indian American" means.
Almost every day my mother asks me when I'm going back to the UK, but like many of the thousands who have moved here, I'm not sure of the answer.

For now, at least, India is just as much my home.

BBC News - Why would you leave the West for India?
 
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^ Thanks buddy for this article. Hope posters like you interact with us more often.
 
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The question is, why stay in the West and contribute your efforts towards improving Western countries?

They are already rich, they don't need anyone's help. Your productivity and capital is more needed at home.
 
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My mother and father came to America just like any other immigrant, in pursuit for greater opportunities. However I was born here and am an American citizen. But my parents still hold Indian citizenships. Now that me and brothers are old enough to live on our own, my parents are moving back to India in a few years time. I've been to India only a few times and that only during vacation or a wedding. However I will be doing my schooling here for a bit, but eventually will be settling down in NE India. Somehow after the Mumbai attacks I and most other Indians that I have met throughout that period have grown a somewhat attachment to our ancestral land. Must have been in the stars.. who knows.
 
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The question is, why stay in the West and contribute your efforts towards improving Western countries?

They are already rich, they don't need anyone's help. Your productivity and capital is more needed at home.

i always wondered why many people spend their entire life abroad despite having huge amount of earning they dont take chances to invest it in their own country and come back.

Its the best thing the new generation of Indians are doing to their country.

i wish we have the same
 
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i know so many people who came to india from california and NY after getting US citizeship. they come to india beating drums and say that they are returing to their roots. but 100% of the time they go back after 8 months to 2 years, citing some lame excuse or the other.
no one will invest their hard earned cash in a corrupt society. the real test is if they are willing to give up citizenship and Green card and willing to sever ties permanently with US. No. they wont do that.
 
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i know so many people who came to india from california and NY after getting US citizeship. they come to india beating drums and say that they are returing to their roots. but 100% of the time they go back after 8 months to 2 years, citing some lame excuse or the other.
no one will invest their hard earned cash in a corrupt society. the real test is if they are willing to give up citizenship and Green card and willing to sever ties permanently with US. No. they wont do that.

The article would disagree with you negative Nancy. Besides what part of Cali?
 
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Article is a really a very true to my knowledge & assures the positive changes in perspective of All ASIAN countries that can be seen these days.

Not only this but trend of technical skilled people going to middle-east is reduced in last few years because of the blooming job market available in India itself.

The question is, why stay in the West and contribute your efforts towards improving Western countries?

They are already rich, they don't need anyone's help. Your productivity and capital is more needed at home.

Brain drain hype or cry is just a mask. I think every individual is patriotic, if he gets a suitable oppurtunity on his own he can leave all the luxury & comforts which job oppurtunities in foreign land gaurantees.

I remember, when i graduated from engineering college & was selected in campus by a major Indian automotive company in Pune & was living there with many fresh engineering graduates from IITS/RECs, there were dozens of friends who had overseas job offers but they prefered to stay in India at comparatively less salary packages & rite now are at high positions in various industrail sectors including some foreign MNCs.
 
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Brain drain hype or cry is just a mask. I think every individual is patriotic, if he gets a suitable oppurtunity on his own he can leave all the luxury & comforts which job oppurtunities in foreign land gaurantees.

I remember, when i graduated from engineering college & was selected in campus by a major Indian automotive company in Pune & was living there with many fresh engineering graduates from IITS/RECs, there were dozens of friends who had overseas job offers but they prefered to stay in India at comparatively less salary packages & rite now are at high positions in various industrail sectors including some foreign embassies.

True. I think overseas Asians are more patriotic then we usually give them credit for.

All they really need is a reason and an opportunity to return.

Those overseas Chinese who return to China are called "Haigui" or "Guiqiao". Interestingly, Haigui sounds almost exactly the same as the word for "sea turtle".

And sea turtles always return to the place they were born, no matter how far they travel. :azn:
 
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mostlhy from bay area but I also know some from NY and some from Boston who tried to come back but ran away real soon.

Hmm.. must have been private investors.

I forgot to mention my fiance who is an American citizen as well who has been supportive enough to even go for an Indian citizenship. However she is of pakistani background her parents still hold citizenship in pakistan. Would that be a problem? Or would it not matter as she is an American citizen?
 
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Hmm.. must have been private investors.

I forgot to mention my fiance who is an American citizen as well who has been supportive enough to even go for an Indian citizenship. However she is of pakistani background her parents still hold citizenship in pakistan. Would that be a problem? Or would it not matter as she is an American citizen?
Big problem.. she will not find it easy to enter india because her parents are pakistani.

btw, non are pvt investors.. the people i know are not such big shots
 
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True. I think overseas Asians are more patriotic then we usually give them credit for.

All they really need is a reason and an opportunity to return.

Thats because we have centuries old ancient culture, rituals, languages & cultural values which WEST world lacks.

Hmm.. must have been private investors.

I forgot to mention my fiance who is an American citizen as well who has been supportive enough to even go for an Indian citizenship. However she is of pakistani background her parents still hold citizenship in pakistan. Would that be a problem? Or would it not matter as she is an American citizen?

If she surrenders her Pakistani citizenship & apply with her american identity to indian embassy I dont think she will have any problems. Even if she has good academic records or certain excellence in art/science stuff she can easily get into india even with her Pakistani identity.

Big problem.. she will not find it easy to enter india because her parents are pakistani.

btw, non are pvt investors.. the people i know are not such big shots

Hi Miss.... baryaach diwas nantar. Nice to see you
 
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