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The exact same reason why most Sindhi Hindus stayed back as well.

It was all about the munny hunny.

Years back I once ended up apologizing to a Pakistani Parsi friend of mine when I watched the grainy pirated VHS copy of the Bollywood movie "Khatta Meetha "

When I discussed the movie he snapped back at me .
" That's India ...No Parsi here works in a factory on daily wage hours ..don't stereotype, We are not babus, railway clerks, petty officials, We are not employed by anyone. We employ others. "

So it appears that Pakistani Parsis visiting India are city folks visiting their country cousins.
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Sania Mirza is an Indian tennis player she holds an Indian passport and plays under the Indian flag thus no need for your permission to travel.

Cricket is a bilateral affair, and Pakistanis come to play in India (or vice versa), make revenue, if the government decided that Pakistanis shouldn't make revenue off the India-Pak series, then it's our prerogative.
I know full well that she is permitted by virtue of her passport. You once again failed to understand my rhetoric.

My point is: why should she be allowed for an innocuous reason as visiting relatives but her husband not for an equally innocuous reason as playing sports?

It is your prerogative to throw your toys out of your pram every day if you people like. It's only yourselves you make look stupid with your constant jihads against everything and everyone Pakistani.

So Indians need to stop Pakistanis making money now? Like we said, you filth have always sought to damage Pakistan well beyond any military encounter for legitimate reasons.

Also like we said, you will do yoga and ram ram to our faces but hide this knife to use against us constantly and consistently, whether it is our economy, our rivers, our history or anything else perfectly innocuous.

There is no longer any need to pretend you want "peace as long as terrorism stops" because you yourself happily admit it is your "prerogative" to harm Pakistan regardless of context. Indeed, it always was your prerogative and objective. The creation of Pakistan was a painful event for Indians.

Carry on. We enjoy your pathetic Freudian slips.
 
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I am not saying that kidney racket is not a problem in India, but it is a problem in Pakistan too.

its even a problem in the US, question is where you can get it cheaper and easily. Kidney replacement is not a rocket science that one needs superior medical services like the one available in India, even the primitive medical system in Pakistan can accomplish it albeit with lot of difficulty and maybe some support phone calls to Indian doctors...but can be accomplished
 
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I am not saying that kidney racket is not a problem in India, but it is a problem in Pakistan too.
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We quoted all the reasons you claimed Pakistanis should wish to visit India
None of the PDF members here mentioned a single instance of seeking medical treatment in India either themselves or by anyone known to them .
It was all emotional dreamy eyed stuff. My father was born there ... Kerala sunset ...

Do you have figures as to how many Pakistanis went to India for medical treatment and what is their percentage of the total population of Pakistan?

More important what is the percentage of " medical tourists"
going to India vs the religious pilgrims from Pakistan?
 
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@magra.
We quoted all the reasons you claimed Pakistanis should wish to visit India
None of the PDF members here mentioned a single instance of seeking medical treatment in India either themselves or by anyone known to them .
It was all emotional dreamy eyed stuff. My father was born there ... Kerala sunset ...

Do you have figures as to how many Pakistanis went to India for medical treatment and what is their percentage of the total population of Pakistan?

More important what is the percentage of " medical tourists"
going to India vs the religious pilgrims from Pakistan?
It is Pakistani's wish if they want to visit India or not (given they get a valid visa).

I could not find a source which gives me any data on the number or percentage of Pakistanis visiting India for medical needs. With the visa restrictions and the animosity, the numbers are negligible although the scope may be big.

The scope can be seen by the fact that your leaders go outside Pakistan for any minor ailments. This would mean that they do not trust the medical facilities within Pakistan.
In India, Jaitley, Sushma Swaraj, Parrikar died in India while combating illnesses.
Vajpayee had his knee transplant in India.
 
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The scope can be seen by the fact that your leaders go outside Pakistan for any minor ailments. This would mean that they do not trust the medical facilities within Pakistan.
In India, Jaitley, Sushma Swaraj, Parrikar died in India while combating illnesses.
Vajpayee had his knee transplant in India.


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I would love to make a motorcycle trip from Germany to India the year I reach the big 4 and 0....so Pakistan is in the way..and would definitely want to go through it and may be extensively travel through it and document my experience on video...So yes I would love to do that.........


Check out his channel, he is German Pakistani and is doing exactly what you want to do. In fact, he will also be traveling to India.
 
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It is Pakistani's wish if they want to visit India or not (given they get a valid visa).

There is no moral high ground here. It is not Pakistani's " wish " . India doesn't give visit visas to Pakistanis for any other purpose than religious pilgrimage to Pakistani Sikhs and Hindus, We already discussed this in my post below addressed to that microscopic minority of Pakistanis who still have some interest in visiting India.. Pakistani Sikhs and Hindus are allowed to visit India as well as Parsis from what we learn from @padamchen .

Per the current position:

No visas are being issued to Pakistanis, regardless of dual
nationality or otherwise. Only
religious pilgrimage visas are being issued to minorities in Pakistan, and that too only to Sikhs and Hindus.

Prior to the visa ban 6 years back, single entry visas for limited single point family visits were only being issued to Pakistanis who were resident in Pakistan on their Pakistani passports from the Indian consulates in Karachi and Islamabad. Dual passport holders were not issued visas from their resident countries ( UK, Canada etc.) , on their Pakistani passports. Single passport holders with Canadian or British passports were issued limited visas ( single city, single entry,) after a 6 month waiting period.
-A place of birth in what is Pakistan after 1971 is the determining status
- Previous nationality. A person
born in India but having
taken Pakistani nationality then migrated to Canada is treated as a Pakistani national.
Children of expat Pakistanis born and raised in countries abroad holding single passports are treated as Pakistanis upto the third generation after Partition as it stands. The fourth generation is too young to travel on their own.

India never issued tourist visas to Pakistani nationals or persons of Pakistani origin ever since the passport and visa protocols went into effect in 1950.
In rare occasions participants in a corporate event, a literary festival or a multinational conference under UN sponsorship would be allowed a limited guided tour to places of interest. Since most of the events are held in Delhi which is in proximity to Agra, that tourist circuit was then permissible.
But we are referring to a bygone era which is never to return.,

Pakistan has identical restrictions on Indian nationals, except that unfortunately there are growing instances of overseas Pakistani men marrying Indian Muslim women which is causing our consulates a headache.
India is clear on this. Once married, neither the Indian Muslim lady or her spouse can visit India again.

All the talk here of seeing the sunset off the Kerala coast, and visiting the Ajanta caves is just fantasy. A few lucky Pakistanis as part of an international event have had limited travel, and some due to linguistic affinity have violated the terms of stay in India and taken a brief unauthorized trip.... But that was much earlier.

In 2011 there was a brief moment of glory when Pakistanis and Indians traveled on three day visas to attend cricket matches.,

But that's it folks !

In our lifetimes none of us will ever travel to India unless we convert to Sikhs or Hindus and seek a pilgrimage visa.
 
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There is no moral high ground here. It is not Pakistani's " wish " . India doesn't give visit visas to Pakistanis for any other purpose than religious pilgrimage to Pakistani Sikhs and Hindus, We already discussed this in my post below addressed to that microscopic minority of Pakistanis who still have some interest in visiting India.. Pakistani Sikhs and Hindus are allowed to visit India as well as Parsis from what we learn from @padamchen .

But I did admit that they too aee required to diligently log in their movements with the police,and are not given open permission to go anywhere they please.

The same I believe is the case for Indians visiting Pakistan.

In fact a senior colleague got into serious hot water because his wife nearly traveled to Pakistan without the due formalities, simply on the say so of some heavyweight in Pakistan on the side of the Punjabi family jinke ghar mein shaadi thi.

Thank God good sense prevailed.

These are not good times to be trusting the word of someone in a country where you can simy disappear and never be heard of again for years.

Cheers, Doc
 
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I know full well that she is permitted by virtue of her passport. You once again failed to understand my rhetoric.

My point is: why should she be allowed for an innocuous reason as visiting relatives but her husband not for an equally innocuous reason as playing sports?
That rhetoric in itself is wrong and illogical. She is an Indian, so, is allowed to come to India anytime, her husband's cricket team is not lol! Is that hard of a logic to understand? Her personal life is a non-issue here.

Sports is not innocuous, countries have boycotted sporting events due to politics. Politics have always been part of sports, and India and Pakistan are no different, especially we are not at good terms with each other after 2008. Since then, there have been all but one bilateral cricketing series and the new government wasn't keen on continuing it.

So Indians need to stop Pakistanis making money now? Like we said, you filth have always sought to damage Pakistan well beyond any military encounter for legitimate reasons.
Oh, well, a country that wants to bleed us by thousand cuts is now saying India is trying to damage you. What were you thinking, hitting our fin Capital?
Also like we said, you will do yoga and ram ram to our faces but hide this knife to use against us constantly and consistently, whether it is our economy, our rivers, our history or anything else perfectly innocuous.
We will promote our country in a positive light through our actions. Be it Yoga or Ram Ram and if most countries apart from "YOU" didn't see any knife, maybe you need to change the way you perceive yourself. That may even solve your perception problem. Pakistans relationships with its neighbours are bad, that you think everyone is treating Pakistan bad.
There is no longer any need to pretend you want "peace as long as terrorism stops" because you yourself happily admit it is your "prerogative" to harm Pakistan regardless of context. Indeed, it always was your prerogative and objective. The creation of Pakistan was a painful event for Indians.

Carry on. We enjoy your pathetic Freudian slips.
Pakistan is still in the process of complying with the demands. Let's see if there is peace along the India-Pakistan border or it's the usual Lahore-Kargil type backstab.
 
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