Correct.
It is a BS this forum believed in about Hindutva. I don't think I have ever totally agreed with the forum but, yes, occasionally, I might have paid back the Indians here with the Hindutva blah blah. Most Hindus are practical people. As I see it: India was and still is where Pakistan was through the 1970s as far social fabric was concerned. Both countries were very poor though Pakistan was ahead in many ways well into the 1980s. The differences we see now are because of the breakdown in Pakistan's social fabric: Instead of 'practical' people where religion was mostly a private matter for most of Pakistanis through the 1970, dogmatism has taken too much hold in Pakistan. India literally had famines and horrible ethnic cleansing incidents, the latest of that was that Modi's Gujrat massacre. But India doesn't anymore. Why? Because rising tide raises all.
Unfortunately for Pakistan, what was sowed in the 1980s has been harvested and I don't know when that harvest will stop. The only way that's going to stop would be through economic uplift. Compromise/shelving the Kashmir issue. Working with the Superpower who holds the key to Pakistan's trade/commerce. Educating people. There is no other way around it--nothing that I can think of given the idiotic leadership among which I also count Imran Khan with some sadness.
Honestly I don't buy this dogmatism part or I think it's exaddurated cause people say it over and over til it becomes a fact
It's more like guns becoming wide spread, government allowing terrorist organization to operate and or turning a blind eye thus building a whole infrastructure for these organization to operate
Pakistani people are pretty much the same as they always were (maybe some areas changed)
IDK rest of the country but I know central Punjab and I don't think it changed much
There was always a strong anti Ahmediya presence cause most of it is barelvi sect, blasphemy things were always there, lynchings is a new 21st century addition though - that's new , Cristians were always looked at as lower castes, that's not a new phenomena
Urban class is still the same as always there's sections where wearing western clothing for men and women is the norm, universities are the same as they were before with my father's generation, going by what my cousin's say who are studying in universities now it's more party culture, if you're in that scene
when it didn't exist before (or my father never talks about that part lol), I was seeing a photo of stadiums and back than none of the women wore head covering or it was simple dupata, it's the same today
Infact I think Pakistani women had bigger balls then men and when Iran was just starting enforcement of hijab laws women in Pak were protesting against it and burning hijabs - now Iranians do the same and get huge coverage as some brave people standing against tyranny
Secretion violence was something that became an issue after Zia with militant organizations Popping up but except for tiny minority it was never supported by anyone, in lower middle class to middle class neighborhood no one even knows who is who unless they tell you
Maybe societies around Afghan borders changed but society at large wasn't completely transformed
My parents generation atleast don't feel Zia changed anything in our society except for Afghans, drugs and guns
I add that in the 90s after Zia militant organizations on pakistani soil became a thing - other than that I don't think Pakistani society or the part of Pakistan where I lived changed drastically
It's like the main character is the same but settings changed IDK it's a dumb analogy
