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Why Pak army not interested in largest wheeled IFV and APC

Getting from Turkey is the most easy thing for us we can negotiate money better than other countries. Yes MRAP are needed for terrorist areas we are loosing thousands due to use of crap vehicles even firing from AK-47 makes us loose soldiers what the hell is Armed Forces leadership thinking.
Hazrat The market for MRAP is highly saturated globally, everyone is making them under license and exporting them. therefor getting a good deal on MRAP is very very easy. That is why my reasoning is to be open to a wider choice than narrowing it down to Just Turkey!!! You have completely side tracked South Africa for example.
 
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Hazrat The market for MRAP is highly saturated globally, everyone is making them under license and exporting them. therefor getting a good deal on MRAP is very very easy. That is why my reasoning is to be open to a wider choice than narrowing it down to Just Turkey!!! You have completely side tracked South Africa for example.
From Turkey we don't have to deal with one company Turkey has several independent companies. We can negotiate with them.
 
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From Turkey we don't have to deal with one company Turkey has several independent companies. We can negotiate with them.
Hazrat MRAP is all about one thing.......

V shaped Hull. All MRAP have their origin from SA
 
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Hazrat MRAP is all about one thing.......

V shaped Hull. All MRAP have their origin from SA
What I know is we need MRAP and Turkey has several Options to offer
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NUROL EJDER 4 X 4
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NURL NMS 4 X 4
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BMC KIRPI 4 X 4
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BMC VURAN 4 X 4
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BMC AMAZON 4 X 4
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Tumosan 4 X 4
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Otokar MRAP 4 X 4
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Otokar Kaya 4 X 4
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Otokar KALE 4 X 4
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KATMERCILER HIZIR MRAP 4 X 4
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KATMERCILER KHAN MRAP 4 X 4
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As far as I know I think I still have missed some @cabatli_53 @Combat-Master @xenon54 @Sinan
 
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What I know is we need MRAP and Turkey has several Options to offer
1421241638_nurol-4.jpg

NUROL EJDER 4 X 4
nms4x4-4x4-nurolmakina-turkey.jpg

NURL NMS 4 X 4
euro-3128.jpg

BMC KIRPI 4 X 4
Vuran.jpg

BMC VURAN 4 X 4
C_TcGWLXgAAk3Ab.jpg

BMC AMAZON 4 X 4
C_Vfd5FXcAAek-q.jpg

Tumosan 4 X 4
Otokar_exhibits_its_Cobra_II_at_DSA_2016_640_002.jpg

Otokar MRAP 4 X 4
euro-3109.jpg

Otokar Kaya 4 X 4
kale-03.jpg

Otokar KALE 4 X 4
Katmerciler_Armored_Combat_Vehicle_HIZIR_unveiled_for_the_first_time_at_High_Tech_Port_640_001.jpg

KATMERCILER HIZIR MRAP 4 X 4
KHAN-Galeri(3).jpg

KATMERCILER KHAN MRAP 4 X 4
18341858_1345365988883637_8834323190252573474_n.jpg
Hmmmm Hazrat too much choice can be cumbersome. We only need one type MRAP. Marauder from SA will be more than enough. It's the most widely used and manufactured MRAP right now!!!


 
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Getting from Turkey is the most easy thing for us we can negotiate money better than other countries. Yes MRAP are needed for terrorist areas we are loosing thousands due to use of crap vehicles even firing from AK-47 makes us loose soldiers what the hell is Armed Forces leadership thinking.
May be money is a problem afterall!
 
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May be money is a problem afterall!
Sorry but loosing soldiers taking care of there families treating the injured and training new ones pretty much is double the cost than doing one time investment. And we if needed should take help from Arabs or China for money to get these but we need them. Even simple AK of Darra results in death of several soldiers because they travel in crap Toyota Hilux

We must go for this one!

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We are going for 8 X 8 one

Hmmmm Hazrat too much choice can be cumbersome. We only need one type MRAP. Marauder from SA will be more than enough. It's the most widely used and manufactured MRAP right now!!!


One type is not enough at least 3 are needed because we have different terrains and in cities roads are different also so 3 will be needed
 
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Sorry but loosing soldiers taking care of there families treating the injured and training new ones pretty much is double the cost than doing one time investment. And we if needed should take help from Arabs or China for money to get these but we need them. Even simple AK of Darra results in death of several soldiers because they travel in crap Toyota Hilux


We are going for 8 X 8 one


One type is not enough at least 3 are needed because we have different terrains and in cities roads are different also so 3 will be needed
Hazrat we are not making achar/pickle.
 
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Yes Zarvan I agree with u we need guys like u in meeting of procurement
Sorry but loosing soldiers taking care of there families treating the injured and training new ones pretty much is double the cost than doing one time investment. And we if needed should take help from Arabs or China for money to get these but we need them. Even simple AK of Darra results in death of several soldiers because they travel in crap Toyota Hilux


We are going for 8 X 8 one


One type is not enough at least 3 are needed because we have different terrains and in cities roads are different also so 3 will be needed
 
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Sorry but loosing soldiers taking care of there families treating the injured and training new ones pretty much is double the cost than doing one time investment. And we if needed should take help from Arabs or China for money to get these but we need them. Even simple AK of Darra results in death of several soldiers because they travel in crap Toyota Hilux
The those who were lost were friends and family of the ones that are making the decisions. So again, may be all is not so great as you try to present it. May be there are issues that are delaying such procurement. Last week a team of army guys and a private contractor who is responsible for maintenance of our army vehicles (jeeps and stuff) had a meeting with land rover England and will be visiting there in a few months for a spare parts deal. Also there are negotiations going on with Ford. In short, the general purpose SUV type vehicles are here to stay for regular transport. It is the high threat areas that will get and which do need MRAPs and armored vehicles. Limited numbers that is. Do not expect all those Hilux and Land Rovers to be replaced for general peace area commute!

Yes Zarvan I agree with u we need guys like u in meeting of procurement
may be finance too!:P
 
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The those who were lost were friends and family of the ones that are making the decisions. So again, may be all is not so great as you try to present it. May be there are issues that are delaying such procurement. Last week a team of army guys and a private contractor who is responsible for maintenance of our army vehicles (jeeps and stuff) had a meeting with land rover England and will be visiting there in a few months for a spare parts deal. Also there are negotiations going on with Ford. In short, the general purpose SUV type vehicles are here to stay for regular transport. It is the high threat areas that will get and which do need MRAPs and armored vehicles. Limited numbers that is. Do not expect all those Hilux and Land Rovers to be replaced for general peace area commute!


may be finance too!:P
Sadly even those areas are not getting MRAP. Every second day even AK-47 results in death of our soldiers in those areas.
 
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Sadly even those areas are not getting MRAP. Every second day even AK-47 results in death of our soldiers in those areas.
That is why i pointed out a reason that may be that is the case after all. See "MAY BE" i am not making this comment as a "verdict" backed by my "sources"
 
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