Why Muslims and British did not ban caste system?

[MH.Yang]

1. When was this training ?

2. Where can I read more about the manual ?

3. Even if what you say is true, all that was in the past. Read his 2010 essay I posted where he is being sympathetic to China.

4. You accuse Gaddafi of being anti-Communist but how is Chinese a Communist country in the first place ? This I have asked you before.



When Britain retaliated against air strikes on Libya ? I didn't understand. Please elaborate.



I know that. It is in the speech I linked which you didn't watch.



I know that and he did right. The UNSC especially is a medium for Western governments to terrorize the world. Watch the speech.

Again, you continue to dislike Gaddafi despite me posting his essay from 2010 that sympathized with China. What more do you want ?

Yuanpeng Jianguo class, School of political operations, Taiwan National Defense University. In the 1960s, Gaddafi studied in this class. Former president Noriega of Panama also studied in this class.

https://baike.baidu.com/item/%E8%BF%9C%E6%9C%8B%E7%8F%AD/6738410

Gaddafi and China have been hostile for a long time. In 2010, can Gaddafi restore relations with China by writing an article? Because of an article, China will use the veto to save his life in 2011?


Do you think Gaddafi's performance at the UN is right? But many countries believe that this means that Gaddafi is not prepared to abide by international rules, and his behavior will be unpredictable.

 

[Novus ordu seclorum]

Swastika is a symbol has been used to denote multiple aspects in Hinduism - The Sun, good luck, four vedas, four yugas, etc. I'm not sure about Ramayan reference(source would be good) but even if true doesn't prove anything about Sumerian origins.
https://www.hinduamerican.org/blog/10-things-you-need-to-know-about-the-swastika/

That was one example. My research is far more extensive. Another example: Sharif is a Sumerian origin word which means Noble. Sher/Shar in Sumerian means Lion which has meaning associated with Nobility.

In Vedic Sanskrit, Deva means Noble or Benevolent. So, Deva literally means Sharif. In the West, Aryan is not associated with the meaning of Noble, but Sharif [Sherrif] means Noble. So, Aryan acquired the meaning of Noble in the Indian context [perhaps Iranian too] from the Sharif [Deva].

Deva and Aryan must be from different origins. Aryans called the land Aryavarta. An interesting point is Sumerian probably lacked the S letter. They would have likely pronounced Sindhu river as Hindu. The name Hindustan [land of Indus River] was likely given by the Kshatriya Deva. This is mentioned in a book of Rig Veda.

 

[jamahir]

Yuanpeng Jianguo class, School of political operations, Taiwan National Defense University. In the 1960s, Gaddafi studied in this class. Former president Noriega of Panama also studied in this class.

Thing is, Gaddafi and his comrades in the military had their revolution in 1969 and only then on governed Libya. Before that he was part of the military of the Libyan king Idris whose military was being managed by the British. It was perhaps in this pre-1969 phase of Gaddafi's military life that he went to that Taiwanese university.

The king Idris was aligned with the Western governments and in 1969 Gaddafi removed him from power and established a Socialist governance and even threw out the biggest American military base in Africa that was in Tripoli IIRC.

So after his 1969 revolution he would found neither the time from governance duties nor the inclination to go study anti-leftist ideas at a West-aligned university in Taiwan.

https://baike.baidu.com/item/%E8%BF%9C%E6%9C%8B%E7%8F%AD/6738410

Page not loading. Maybe Baidu website is not allowed in India. So please post snapshots of the page.

Do you think Gaddafi's performance at the UN is right? But many countries believe that this means that Gaddafi is not prepared to abide by international rules, and his behavior will be unpredictable.

You claim to be a Communist yet you are not prepared to accept Gaddafi's description of the wrongs that were and are maintained by the UNO, especially the UNSC ? Please watch the speech and then we can discuss where you found something that wasn't correct.

 

[Varunastra]

That was one example. My research is far more extensive. Another example: Sharif is a Sumerian origin word which means Noble. Sher/Shar in Sumerian means Lion which has meaning associated with Nobility.

In Vedic Sanskrit, Deva means Noble or Benevolent. So, Deva literally means Sharif. In the West, Aryan is not associated with the meaning of Noble, but Sharif [Sherrif] means Noble. So, Aryan acquired the meaning of Noble in the Indian context [perhaps Iranian too] from the Sharif [Deva].

Deva and Aryan must be from different origins. Aryans called the land Aryavarta. An interesting point is Sumerian lacked the S letter. They would have pronounced Sindhu river as Hindu. The name Hindustan [land of Indus River] was given by the Kshatriya Deva. This is mentioned in a book of Rig Veda.

These are all based on random occurrences of commonalities and speculation. If there is no scientifically proven common root all these doesn't amount to much. Not to mention language and traditions can be borrowed from other cultures without them being directly related/having common root as can be in seen in linguistics and archeology where a major portion of studies try to find if a word descended from or was a loan word. No research in my knowledge connects Sumerian which is a language isolate to Indo-Aryan/Dravidian languages, not even in loan words.
Correlation doesn't imply causation mate.

 

[Novus ordu seclorum]

These are all based on random occurrences of commonalities and speculation. If there is no scientifically proven common root all these doesn't amount to much. Not to mention language and traditions can be borrowed from other cultures without them being directly related/having common root as can be in seen in linguistics and archeology where a major portion of studies try to find if a word descended from or was a loan word. No research in my knowledge connects Sumerian which is a language isolate to Indo-Aryan/Dravidian languages, not even in loan words.
Correlation doesn't imply causation mate.

My ancestral identity is not borrowed from others. We have ancestral differences in belief, language, custom and culture. The faith of the Kshatriya was Vihari or Bihari. Hindu temple culture is alien to my ancestry.

Another interesting point is that the oldest elements of Sanskrit had no 'H' sound [Ref: India - a History by John Keay]. The word Hindu must have come from people passing eastwards through Proto-Iranian language.

 

[El Sidd]

I do not know a Syed who behaves that way. The people you are talking about are probably not blood Syed.

What has a title to do with ethnicity?

There's no evidence Sumerians divided themselves and were considered first nationalists in sociopolitical term.

It's the same problem when researching pre Islamic Arabia. There's not much left of first account details that can complete the puzzle while opinions of others around you are marred by propaganda. Everyone refers to everyone else is barbarian or illiterate(hence miracle of man).

 

[Varunastra]

Our ancestral identities are not borrowed from others. We have ancestral differences in belief, language, custom and culture. The faith of the Kshatriya was Vihari or Bihari. Hindu temple culture is alien to my ancestry.

Another interesting point is that the oldest elements of Sanskrit had no 'H' sound [Ref: India - a History by John Keay]. The word Hindu must have come from people passing eastwards through Proto-Iranian language.

Yes Hindu name came from Persians for people living beyond the indus/sindhu region.
https://courses.lumenlearning.com/atd-fscj-worldreligions/chapter/etymology-and-history/
It's an exonym, lots of cultures identify themselves with exonyms, namely japan, germany, korea, etc. Doesn't prove any sort of connection to the cultures that gave the name escape for trade. Also persians are not sumerians, one is of indo-iranian family and other a language isolate.

 

[Novus ordu seclorum]

What has a title to do with ethnicity?

There's no evidence Sumerians divided themselves and were considered first nationalists in sociopolitical term.

It's the same problem when researching pre Islamic Arabia. There's not much left of first account details that can complete the puzzle while opinions of others around you are marred by propaganda. Everyone refers to everyone else is barbarian or illiterate(hence miracle of man).

What's your point. It would seem pointless if your ancestry did not originate from there. We prostrate our head and spread our hands to the sky in supplication like our Monotheist Sumerian ancestors did. We never joined hands in Pooja style worship [Central Asian Origin]. We never worshiped idols. We never cremated. We simply buried the dead. We wear lungi [not dhoti]. We carry guttural Kh, Gh sounds from our ancestry.

 

[tower9]

Probably because the caste system benefitted the ruling class so it made India much easier to govern. They just needed to co-opt the high castes and get their cooperation in order to rule effectively.

 

[Novus ordu seclorum]

Yes Hindu name came from Persians for people living beyond the indus/sindhu region.
https://courses.lumenlearning.com/atd-fscj-worldreligions/chapter/etymology-and-history/
It's an exonym, lots of cultures identify themselves with exonyms, namely japan, germany, korea, etc. Doesn't prove any sort of connection to the cultures that gave the name escape for trade. Also persians are not sumerians, one is of indo-iranian family and other a language isolate.

I am tracing my Sharif ancestry [Maurya]. Bihar Sharif or ancient Nalanda. I am not Persian, Aryan, or Central Asian. The ancestry originated from Iraq. Maurya could mean Ma'Arya which means 'With Arya' in Semitic. Bihar is Semitic too which means Oceans.

 

[El Sidd]

What's your point. It would seem pointless if your ancestry did not originate from there. We prostrate our head and spread our hands to the sky in supplication like our Monotheist Sumerian ancestors did. We never joined hands in Pooja style worship [Central Asian Origin]. We never worshiped idols. We never cremated. We simply buried the dead. We wear lungi [not dhoti]. We carry guttural Kh, Gh sounds from our ancestry.

Sumerians did not practice monotheism.

Even the fable of flood story provides evidence that Sumerians were polytheist. I don't know if they indulged in ancestor worship.

 

[Novus ordu seclorum]

Sumerians did not practice monotheism.

Even the fable of flood story provides evidence that Sumerians were polytheist. I don't know if they indulged in ancestor worship.

The most famous Monotheist Sumerian is Prophet Ibrahim [as] born in Ur.

 

[El Sidd]

The most famous Monotheist Sumerian is Prophet Ibrahim [as] born in Ur.

Theology is a separate field of study

 

[Novus ordu seclorum]

Theology is a separate field of study

I did not talk of theology. Monotheist is a classification of belief in God. Prophet Ibrahim was a Monotheist by belief and a Sumerian by ethnic origin.

 

[El Sidd]

I did not talk of theology. Monotheist is a classification of belief in God. Prophet Ibrahim was a Monotheist by belief and a Sumerian by ethnic origin.

He would still be kin of Adam and what would set him apart would not be his ethnicity but radical new ideology even if your argument is entertained.

Many theologians believe belief in one God predates belief on multiple gods.