Why jinnah called annie besant "amma" mother

[Myth_buster_1]

Did Jinnah know She was a 33 degree freemason?

 

[JonAsad]

Yes i heard that before that Jinnah himself was an Illuminati, and i laughed.

 

[T-Faz]

You seemed to have obtained an agenda for bringing various conspiracies regarding Jinnah to the forefront.

Guess you found out that Jinnah did not really fit into the mould of Islamist that some were trying to make him out to be.

You will find a market for your ideas and theories, even new found hatred for Jinnah by some based on his affiliations with various sects.

However, what you cannot erase is that Jinnah was the founder of this nation and he set a visibly moderate, secular and democratic discourse for this nation.

 

[Myth_buster_1]

However, what you cannot erase is that Jinnah was the founder of this nation and he set a visibly moderate, secular and democratic discourse for this nation.

Remember what Prophet Mohammed PBUH has said.

“If anybody sees in his Ameer "leader" something which displeases him, he should remain patient, for he who separates himself from the
authority of Islam (Sultan) by even so much as a hand span and
dies thereupon, he would die the death of the days of ignorance.”


Btw Annie was a freemason and jinnah was influenced by her and even called her "amma". thats not a conspiracy theory.

 

[Rafi]

People who do not deserve to kiss the Quaid's feet, are trying to diss him. LoL don't know whether to laugh or cry. And those who don't like Jinnah then don't live in his Pakistan, go to Sudan or Somalia.

 

[architect_cobb]

Btw Annie was a freemason and jinnah was influenced by her and even called her "amma". thats not a conspiracy theory.

I don't think Jinnah ever claimed to be a staunch muslim. This claim of yours only strengthens the argument that Jinnah's Pakistan was supposed to be a moderate secular state unlike the one we have developed it into.

And whether he was a practicing muslim or not his accomplishments are much beyond religious affiliations. As Wolpert stated in his book:-

"Few individuals significantly alter the course of history. Fewer still modify the map of the world. Hardly anyone can be credited with creating a nation state. Mohammad Ali Jinnah did all three."

 

[T-Faz]

Remember what Prophet Mohammed PBUH has said.

“If anybody sees in his Ameer "leader" something which displeases him, he should remain patient, for he who separates himself from the
authority of Islam (Sultan) by even so much as a hand span and
dies thereupon, he would die the death of the days of ignorance.”

Firstly, Jinnah never claimed to be an 'Ameer', neither was he bestowed with the title of one.

Secondly and more importantly, this particular saying refers to pledge of allegiance one takes to a particular Amir, even if the leader does something that displeases him. An individual must abide by this allegiance he has made and if he separates himself from the Sultan (authority of Islam), then he would die of the days of ignorance.

You have made an error in copying this saying, it goes like:

For behold, he who separates himself from the sultan (authority of Islam) by even so much as a hand span and dies thereupon, has died a death of jahiliyyah

and not:

authority of Islam (Sultan)

Btw Annie was a freemason and jinnah was influenced by her and even called her "amma". thats not a conspiracy th

I do not even know who Annie Besant is, even if Jinnah caller her 'amma' which is more likely said as a mark of respect, it does not mean that Jinnah automatically becomes affiliated with whichever group Miss Annie belonged to.

If I called Annie, my amma, does not mean I am a Freemason.

Even then, what is wrong with being a freemason.

 

[Farooq]

Remember what Prophet Mohammed PBUH has said.

“If anybody sees in his Ameer "leader" something which displeases him, he should remain patient, for he who separates himself from the
authority of Islam (Sultan) by even so much as a hand span and
dies thereupon, he would die the death of the days of ignorance.”


Btw Annie was a freemason and jinnah was influenced by her and even called her "amma". thats not a conspiracy theory.

Brother, no point in arguing with the Jinnah worshippers here.

 

[T-Faz]

Brother, no point in arguing with the Jinnah worshippers here.

But who worships Jinnah, no one.

How can one worship a mere mortal.

We just respect him for his larger than life service in creating our nation.

There seems to be a point of friction here for some odd reason.

 

[Karachiite]

Brother, no point in arguing with the Jinnah worshippers here.

Why do you even bother to put the Pakistani flag in your locations? That Pakistani flag was made possible cuz of Muhammad Ali Jinnah. You jamatis should have never came to Pakistan.

 

[jayron]

Anne Besant's association with Co- Freemasonary

Given Annie Besant's activity in pursuing the rights of women, humanitarian causes, the mysteries and occult teachings, her interest in freemasonry and subsequent leadership and activism comes as no surprise. She pursued freemasonry with equal vigour when it was mentioned to her that there was a masonry that "accepted women as well as men". She saw freemasonry, in particular co-freemasonry, as an extension of her interest in the rights of women and the greater brotherhood of man and saw co-freemasonry as a "movement which practised true brotherhood, in which women and men worked side by side for the perfecting of humanity. She immediately wanted to be admitted to this organisation", known now as The International Order of Co-Freemasonry, Le Droit Humain.

The link was made in 1902 by Francesca Arundale, who accompanied Annie Besant to Paris, along with six friends. "They were all initiated, passed and raised into the first three degrees and Annie returned to England, bearing a Charter and founded there the first Lodge of International Mixed Masonry, Le Droit Humain."

"In a very short time, Sister Besant founded new lodges: three in London, three in the south of England, three in the North and North-West; she even organised one in Scotland." Travelling in 1904 with her sisters and brothers she met in Holland, other brethren of a male obedience, who, being interested, collaborated in further expansion of Le Droit Humain. "Annie continued to work with such ardour that soon new lodges were formed Great Britain, South America, Canada, India, Ceylon, Australia and New Zealand. The lodges in all these countries were united under the name of the British Federation." [4] Annie Besant, therefore not only founded the British Federation of Le Droit Humain, of which she was eventually the Most Puissant Grand Commander, she was a major influence in the international growth of the Order.

 

[pak-marine]

People who do not deserve to kiss the Quaid's feet, are trying to diss him. LoL don't know whether to laugh or cry. And those who don't like Jinnah then don't live in his Pakistan, go to Sudan or Somalia.

Sorry state of mind of some moududi left overs in pakistan , they are so bloody hipocrats that at first they were against pakistan than after independence they moved into pakistan , now they keep ranting what that d*ck veed moududi said. I think deep inside they wish to a broken pakistan just to satisfy their egos

 

[Myth_buster_1]

People who do not deserve to kiss the Quaid's feet, are trying to diss him. LoL don't know whether to laugh or cry. And those who don't like Jinnah then don't live in his Pakistan, go to Sudan or Somalia.

Ignorance at its best.

 

[Myth_buster_1]

Sorry state of mind of some moududi left overs in pakistan , they are so bloody hipocrats that at first they were against pakistan than after independence they moved into pakistan , now they keep ranting what that d*ck veed moududi said. I think deep inside they wish to a broken pakistan just to satisfy their egos

Who is they idiot.
Dont associate us with groups we dont even know about.
A Islamic state is supposed to be run according to Islamic laws not something that colonial masters implemented via Jinnah who was used as a ploy. And GOP is doing a good job portraying image of Islam even worst then Fox news and CNN.

 

[Myth_buster_1]

Firstly, Jinnah never claimed to be an 'Ameer', neither was he bestowed with the title of one.

Secondly and more importantly, this particular saying refers to pledge of allegiance one takes to a particular Amir, even if the leader does something that displeases him. An individual must abide by this allegiance he has made and if he separates himself from the authority of Sultan (authority of Islam), then he would die of the days of ignorance.

You have made an error in copying this saying, it goes like:



and not:





I do not even know who Annie Besant is, even if Jinnah caller her 'amma' which is more likely said as a mark of respect, it does not mean that Jinnah automatically becomes affiliated with whichever group Miss Annie belonged to.

If I called Annie, my amma, does not mean I am a Freemason.

Even then, what is wrong with being a freemason.

Speechless..


“And rule between them by that which Allah has revealed to you, and do not follow
their vain desires away from the truth which came to you.” [Al-Ma’idah: 48]

“And rule between them by that which Allah has revealed.” [TMQ Al-Ma’idah:49]

“And those who do not rule by that which Allah has revealed are the disbelievers.”
[TMQ Al-Ma’idah: 44]


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