Why isnt Pakistan Army getting rid of its G3

[sparten]

The Army hates the AK and all its varients, they consider it an SMG. There is a thirty round mag IIRC, and in Swat, they have done well with the G-3.

 

[Black Stone]

Is Pakistan in a position to make their own rifles in the near future?

 

[sparten]

Yes. But is more economical these days to have licensed productions of foreign rifles. Saves on the R & D.

 

[peshawar]

JANE'S DEFENCE WEEKLY - MARCH 07, 2007
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Pakistan tests assault rifle Andrew White Jane's Land Reporter London

The Pakistan Ministry of Defence (MoD) has procured 50 PK-8 assault rifles from Pakistan Ordnance Factories (POF) for evaluation tests as it considers changing calibre in line with NATO armed forces. The PK-8, which fires the standard NATO 5.56 mm cartridge, has undergone tests in environments ranging from -40¢ª C to +50¢ª C and the system is being offered as a replacement for the army's existing armoury of 7.62 mm Heckler & Koch G3 assault rifles. Complete with an Aimpoint optical sight and Picatinny rail for add-on ancillaries such as laser pointers and underslung grenade launchers, the PK-8 has a folding stock, shorter barrel and multiple parts commonality with its larger-calibre G3 relation, according to POF.

Any change in calibre for the army could see the procurement of around 500,000 assault rifles, although POF Director Syed Naseem Raza told Jane's that it was "very happy" with 7.62 mm weapon systems. Industry sources at POF have recommended that any calibre change be gradually phased in, starting with procurements for the army's Special Service Group (SSG) and light infantry. Currently, certain units within the Pakistan armed forces already use 5.56 mm systems. Industry sources told Jane's that they were confident of seeing a new programme within a couple of years. The army also uses 7.62 mm AK-47 assault rifles and 9 mm MP5 submachine guns.

Speaking at the International Defence Exhibition and Seminar in Karachi in 2006, General Ihsan, chairman of the joint chiefs of staff committee, said that a possible change from 7.62 mm to a more uniform NATO round was being considered. However, Gen Ihsan admitted that there were "resource constraints" to consider before any decision was made: "We are very conscious of equipping our soldiers with the very best possible weapons and equipment, but we must prioritise our requirements," he said. "We have paid substantial money into indigenous industry and we must first check this before we think about a changing calibre," said the general. Selecting the PK-8 means the MoD would not have to transfer technology from abroad to fulfil any

 

[peshawar]

The Army hates the AK and all its varients, they consider it an SMG. There is a thirty round mag IIRC, and in Swat, they have done well with the G-3.

thats they they use ak47 in SSG
considering it an smg does not makes it an smg
the world calls it an assulat rifle
in every ssg operation ssg have alsways used ak47 from congo to swat

 

[Proud to be Pakistani]

thats they they use ak47 in SSG
considering it an smg does not makes it an smg
the world calls it an assulat rifle
in every ssg operation ssg have alsways used ak47 from congo to swat

SSG uses G3A3... Not Ak-47.......... Its a SMG...

 

[blain2]

SSG use them all.

Type-56, M-4, AUG, G-3 (although on a very limited basis). Type 56 and AUG are the primary assault rifles in use with them. SSG was one of the first units within the PA to start using the Type 56 around the time of Afghan Jihad.

 

[peshawar]

SSG uses G3A3... Not Ak-47.......... Its a SMG...

come on man
SSG uses ak47 (type 56)
about 90% of them are equiped with that
AUG is small in numbers but surely i wil be glad to see the ak47 replaved by an aug
AK47 is the gun used by SSG not g3

 

[JK!]

I thought that the SSG had the latest weapon of the kalashnikov lineage and used it during LM siege.

If true could anyone provide details of that weapon?

 

[peshawar]

I thought that the SSG had the latest weapon of the kalashnikov lineage and used it during LM siege.

If true could anyone provide details of that weapon?

nope they used the good old ak47

and they did used daraganove svd but not that much

wat they should have used was MP5
was more effective in close combat like LM and the penetration is lower but 9mm stopping power is good
so less penetration would mean that the chances of people getting killed by an exit bullet or a reiksha bullet would have been low

 

[JK!]

nope they used the good old ak47

and they did used daraganove svd but not that much

wat they should have used was MP5
was more effective in close combat like LM and the penetration is lower but 9mm stopping power is good
so less penetration would mean that the chances of people getting killed by an exit bullet or a reiksha bullet would have been low

Yes and no.

The rifle used in LM siege appears to be the AK 103.

Its basically a modernised AK47 mad of plastics and newer materials.

see: AK-103 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia for more info.

 

[Black Stone]

SSG and regular army uses different rifles, are they both changing rifles?

 

[peshawar]

Yes and no.

The rifle used in LM siege appears to be the AK 103.

Its basically a modernised AK47 mad of plastics and newer materials.

see: AK-103 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia for more info.

we have an ak103 in village its not mine but belongs to no one like a family aresonal any one can use it
ak103 is a lighter version of ak47 with a muzzel break like an ak74
look more pretty but is as effercive as ak47-(75)modle
its good in rapid firing cause it swings a little less
but i didnt see it in LM op any pic of that?

 

[aryan2007]

we have an ak103 in village its not mine but belongs to no one like a family aresonal any one can use it
ak103 is a lighter version of ak47 with a muzzel break like an ak74
look more pretty but is as effercive as ak47-(75)modle
its good in rapid firing cause it swings a little less
but i didnt see it in LM op any pic of that?

You guys have AK's for Personal Weapons..
Whom do you use it against?? or just like that??

 

[peshawar]

You guys have AK's for Personal Weapons..
Whom do you use it against?? or just like that??

ya in NWFP and in FATA every one has an ak47 at least
its tradational
thast why the bristsh got there assses kicked there whle they were ruling subcontient peacefull