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What does Iran get for supporting al-Assad?
By Tim Lister, CNN
updated 8:24 PM EDT, Mon August 13, 2012

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(CNN) -- In public at least, the message was defiant. Beleaguered Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, sitting alongside Iran's intelligence chief, proclaimed Tuesday "the determination of the people and government of Syria to cleanse the country of terrorists."

His Iranian visitor, Saeed Jalili, responded, "What is happening in Syria is not an internal issue but a conflict between the axis of resistance on one hand and regional and global enemies of this axis on the other." Jalili's comment was made public by the Syrian news agency that al-Assad's government runs.

It's a familiar theme for the Iranians, who have cast events in Syria as part of a much broader ideological battle. Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei has similarly characterized events in Syria as a "war between the front of hegemony and the front of resistance."

Ayham Kamel of Eurasia Group believes the Iranians must be alarmed that the tide is running fast against al-Assad.

"Iran probably has excellent information regarding Assad's position. That information would make clear that Iran is increasingly likely to lose its only ally in the region, greatly reducing its strategic reach," he says.

The last thing Iran wants is a Sunni-dominated Syria that abandons the "axis" -- especially as the rebels' main supporters are Iran's Persian Gulf rivals: Qatar and Saudi Arabia.

"How can those who have never held an election in their country be advocates of democracy?" Jalili asked in Damascus, with a less than oblique dig at the Gulf monarchies. Assad also blasted as "unacceptable" that certain foreign countries were "supporting terrorism in Syria" through arming the rebels.

Iran is al-Assad's last regional ally, and Western intelligence officials believe the Islamic Republic has provided technical help such as intelligence, communications and advice on crowd control and weapons as protest in Syria has morphed into resistance.

A United Nations panel reported in May that Iranian weapons destined for Syria but seized in Turkey included assault rifles, explosives, detonators, machine guns and mortar shells.

Iran's Foreign Minister acknowledged Wednesday that some of the 48 Iranians kidnapped last weekend by the Free Syrian Army near Damascus were former military personnel.

"Some retired individuals from the (Revolutionary) Guards and army were dispatched to Syria to make a pilgrimage," Foreign Minister Ali Akbar Salehi told the official Iranian news agency, a statement that will likely be seized upon by the rebels as confirmation that Iran is directly aiding the al-Assad regime.

Syria also matters to Iran because it is the main conduit to the Shi'ite militia Hezbollah in Lebanon, the proxy through which Iran can threaten Israel with an arsenal of short-range missiles.

In 2009, the top U.S. diplomat in Damascus disclosed that Syria had begun delivery of ballistic missiles to Hezbollah, according to official cables leaked to and published by WikiLeaks.

"Syria's actions have created a situation in which miscalculation or provocative behavior by Hezbollah could prove disastrous for Syria and the broader region," the diplomat wrote.

The regional picture that was so favorable to Iran a few years ago -- as events in Iraq moved in its favor and those in neighboring Afghanistan moved against the Western alliance -- is now much more challenging. International sanctions imposed chiefly by the United States and Europe are biting, renewed political violence is destabilizing Iraq, and Iran's relationship with Turkey has eroded badly.

Not so long ago, Iran and Turkey were on good terms. The government of Recep Tayyip Erdogan tried to be the honest broker in Iran's confrontation with the West over its nuclear program; both governments worried about Kurdish separatism; and Turkey's guiding principle was 'zero problems with neighbors.'

Erdogan said this week at a meeting of his Justice and Development Party: "When no one else was by its side, Turkey stood by Iran, despite everything. Turkey defended its right to nuclear energy."

Not any more. Erdogan has been infuriated by Iran's attempts to paint Turkey as conspiring with the West on Syria. This week, Iran's chief of staff Hassan Firouzabadi accused Turkey of helping the "belligerent objectives" of Western powers, prompting the Turkish Foreign Ministry to condemn "groundless accusations and extremely inappropriate threats" of Iranian officials.

Erdogan joined in. "On Syria, once again I ask the Iranians: Does defending a regime that kills its brothers, and I think it has reached 25,000 by now, suit our values?"

Playing on differences

Iranian Foreign Minister Ali Akbar Salehi traveled to Turkey Tuesday in an effort to mend that fence. He left with what the Turkish Foreign Minister called a "frank and friendly" message about intemperate language.

Iran and Turkey are shaping up for the next phase of the struggle for Syria, according to Michael Young, Opinion Editor at the Daily Star in Beirut. And it is likely to be a Syria where central control is much weaker in the face of sectarian and clan fissures.

"If the Alawis are afraid and fall back on their heartland, there too you're going to have a situation where a new central government in Damascus will have to wrestle with a state that is not strongly unified," Young told the New York-based Council on Foreign Relations.

"In that context, it will create openings for the Iranians to play on differences."

Turkey will be working for the opposite outcome, wary that Syria's Kurds might seek common cause with its own restive Kurdish minority and concerned that prolonged instability will spill into Lebanon and across Syria's long and porous border with Turkey.

If its rhetoric is accepted at face value, Iran may be ready to step up support for al-Assad. But does it have the resources? As Ayham Kamel at Eurasia Group notes: "Sanctions are biting, oil revenues have been compressed, inflation is rampant, and reserves are limited." But backing al-Assad, at least in the short term, may be an overriding imperative.

The United States says Iran is intensifying its support for the Assad regime. And most analysts expect at least more Iranian cash and more expertise to be made available.

"The diversion of perhaps tens of millions of dollars or euros in cash would certainly assist Assad's government as its foreign exchange reserves dwindle," says Kamel. The provision of additional arms and intelligence is also likely in the near term, he says.

Less predictable, analysts say, is whether Hezbollah will of its own accord or at Iran's behest put its considerable military expertise at Assad's service. Iranian intelligence chief Jalili met Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah before going to Damascus.

Nasrallah has nailed his colors to the mast. He said last month that the four senior Syrian officials killed in a bomb blast in Damascus were "martyrs" and boasted that the rockets Hezbollah had fired at Israel in 2006 were made in Syria.

Hezbollah's nightmare is a hostile Israel on one side and a hostile Sunni Syria on the other, even if its internal position in Lebanon is secure. But both it and Iran are now trying to peer into a future as gloomy as it is opaque.
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Syria is a big member of resistance line against Israel and it's a bridge for Iran to access to Israel, Iranian regime always support every group or country that is enemy with Israel. That's why Iran is supporting Syria.
 
Syria is a big member of resistance line against Israel and it's a bridge for Iran to access to Israel, Iranian regime always support every group or country that is enemy with Israel. That's why Iran is supporting Syria.

Latest status of Hamas:

Reality catches up with Hamas - Israel News | Haaretz Daily Newspaper

Reality catches up with Hamas
The longtime Hamas figurehead now faces unprecedented challenges, including new allegations that he embezzled $12 million from the movement.
By Jonathan Schanzer | Oct.12, 2012 | 4:01 AM

Hamas' long-standing political leader Khaled Meshal was in trouble the moment Western sanctions - punishment for Iran's illicit nuclear activities - began eating into Tehran's funding for its longtime Palestinian proxy. Meshal's job, after all, was to manage the lucrative Iran-Syria-Hamas axis. Then Bashar Assad began mowing down Sunnis in Syria, making it impossible for Hamas to remain there without appearing complicit. When the group pulled its headquarters out of Damascus in February, there was no denying it: Meshal was toast.

In January, a Hamas statement suggested Meshal's tenure was ending. But in April, the London-based newspaper Asharq Alawsat issued a conflicting report: Meshal, based in Doha, was managing relations with Hamas benefactors in Qatar, who began pouring funds into Gaza for construction projects. The confusion was unusual for Hamas, which has over the years earned a reputation for maintaining message discipline.

In all fairness, Hamas may not have known how to handle Meshal. With their political and economic future in flux - owing to instability brought on by the regional rise of the Muslim Brotherhood and a falling out with Iran - Hamas' leaders may still not know whether he is an asset or a liability.

Last month, however, reports of Meshal's demise began to circulate again. Reuters reported he was "tired of policy challenges from the Islamist group's Gaza-based leadership and is not seeking re-election." The Associated Press confirmed this report with two Hamas officials. Meanwhile, Iran and Syria heaped scorn on Meshal, calling him a Zionist, for good measure.

Meshal's likely replacement will be Mousa Abu Marzouk, who also left Damascus but moved to Cairo, where he now manages relations with the Muslim Brotherhood government of Mohammed Morsi. While Marzouk's appointment is still unconfirmed, it would be a logical one. Hamas was born of the Brotherhood and is keen to develop political and economic relations that would help reintegrate it with other Islamist regional governments.

Marzouk's job, if he lands it, will almost certainly not resemble Meshal's post in Damascus, however. Hamas is in the midst of a massive reshuffle. While it was once divided between two geographic headquarters in Gaza and Damascus, as veteran Palestinian watcher Ehud Yaari notes, Hamas' "center of gravity has now shifted back to the Gaza leadership, which is capable of developing its own network of foreign support."

Hamas, in other words, has become more centralized. Whether this is the result of politics or ideology is still unclear. Either way, the Gaza-based government under Ismail Haniyeh appears poised to run the show, while other high-level figures manage important regional relationships.

If that sounds like a diplomatic corps, it should. This is where the movement appears to be headed. Hamas recently announced it is training diplomats to represent the Gaza government's interests abroad.

In short, after losing Iran's largesse and parting ways with Syria, Hamas began to cultivate new Sunni patrons and dispatched senior figures to manage those relationships. Today, Hamas is courting three regional powers strongly associated with the Muslim Brotherhood: Egypt, Turkey and Qatar. While these countries are traditionally competitors for regional power, Hamas has so far managed things rather well. Its leadership appears even to have established a division of labor: Qatar takes the lead on construction projects in Gaza, Turkey sells a wide range of consumer products there, and Egypt tentatively - perhaps glacially - works to bring Hamas out of isolation.

At the same time, Hamas continues to court the Iranians, even though funding has dried up. That's because Iran can still play the spoiler by funding other Gaza-based terrorist groups that can attack Israel, including Palestinian Islamic Jihad and the Popular Resistance Committees. Hamas' leaders know they'll pay a price if the mullahs unleash a proxy attack on Israel, eliciting retaliations that could compromise the group's ability to rule Gaza. Iran could also direct attacks against Egyptian interests in the Sinai, jeopardizing the nascent Egypt-Hamas ties Haniyeh so desperately wishes to cultivate.

In early September, Hamas cofounder Mahmoud al-Zahar met with several senior Iranians in Tehran. He also made sure to drop in on Iran's Lebanese proxy, Hezbollah - ostensibly for the same reasons. As Zahar admitted, "nobody can ignore Iran's significance and important place in the Palestinian issue."

Hamas' leaders did not seek a falling-out with Iran, but new realities have forced them to adapt. They've muddled through, maintaining control over Gaza, while working to integrate its government into the new politics of the region.


Meshal has not fared as well. The longtime Hamas figurehead now faces unprecedented challenges, including new allegations that he embezzled $12 million from the movement. As his political opponents sharpen their knives, it's no surprise he recently skipped a trip to Gaza.

Meshal's fate may not be sealed, however. While regional changes have forced Hamas to evolve, its violent, rejectionist ideology has not wavered. As its principal articulator, Meshal was an effective spokesman. Hamas may find use for him yet.

Jonathan Schanzer is vice president for research at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies and author of "Hamas vs. Fatah: The Struggle for Palestine" (Palgrave Macmillan, 2008 ). He tweets at @JSchanzer.
 
Those Billions are better spent off on Iranian people because, bashaar is a dead, Syrian people specially & all muslims will never forget that iranians were genociding them with bashaar.

Congratulations! for the iranian regime they just created a new enemy for them sevles, wasted iranian's people money in vain,and not to mention have lost any sympathy in all of the islamic world because of this participation in the massacre of muslims.

when the US invade iran very soon no one will shed a tear, actually many will be delighted as they will see iranian regime getting some of their own medicine and pay for their crimes against muslims specially in syria.
 
Those Billions are better spent off on Iranian people because, bashaar is a dead, Syrian people specially & all muslims will never forget that iranians were genociding them with bashaar.

Congratulations! for the iranian regime they just created a new enemy for them sevles, wasted iranian's people money in vain,and not to mention have lost any sympathy in all of the islamic world because of this participation in the massacre of muslims.

when the US invade iran very soon no one will shed a tear, actually many will be delighted as they will see iranian regime getting some of their own medicine and pay for their crimes against muslims specially in syria.
Believe me,the last thing we need is someone like 'you' shedding a tear for us.You people are born to backstab.
 
Those Billions are better spent off on Iranian people because, bashaar is a dead, Syrian people specially & all muslims will never forget that iranians were genociding them with bashaar.

Congratulations! for the iranian regime they just created a new enemy for them sevles, wasted iranian's people money in vain,and not to mention have lost any sympathy in all of the islamic world because of this participation in the massacre of muslims.

when the US invade iran very soon no one will shed a tear, actually many will be delighted as they will see iranian regime getting some of their own medicine and pay for their crimes against muslims specially in syria.

Dude believe me ...US will never attack Iran as Iran is not a push over country....And apart from that the existing status quo of weakening financially to Iran suits more to US rather than attacking with war...
 
Those Billions are better spent off on Iranian people because, bashaar is a dead, Syrian people specially & all muslims will never forget that iranians were genociding them with bashaar.

Congratulations! for the iranian regime they just created a new enemy for them sevles, wasted iranian's people money in vain,and not to mention have lost any sympathy in all of the islamic world because of this participation in the massacre of muslims.

when the US invade iran very soon no one will shed a tear, actually many will be delighted as they will see iranian regime getting some of their own medicine and pay for their crimes against muslims specially in syria.

During Iran-Iraq war,When Your country was supporting Saddam Hossein whit Billions of dollors. Syria was the only Arab country who tried to support Iran, The right country. Now they are supporting resistance movements against zionists. We should be fool not to support syria.
But your country is the source Wahabisim.The terrorists who are thirty for Shiites blood and you are supporting them any way you can.
You Should be ashamed of your racist words. US is not as stupid as you to start a war with Iran. But any way If such a war breaks out, You should pay too.
 
guys we are all aware of Wahhabi bloodthirstiness
but did you guys noticed we are talking the hatred all the time too?
i mean if its bad for them then its bad for us as well isnt it ?
just askin
 
guys we are all aware of Wahhabi bloodthirstiness
but did you guys noticed we are talking the hatred all the time too?
i mean if its bad for them then its bad for us as well isnt it ?
just askin

seems like we care. the less we do btw. :D
 
During Iran-Iraq war,When Your country was supporting Saddam Hossein whit Billions of dollors. Syria was the only Arab country who tried to support Iran, The right country. Now they are supporting resistance movements against zionists. We should be fool not to support syria.
But your country is the source Wahabisim.The terrorists who are thirty for Shiites blood and you are supporting them any way you can.
You Should be ashamed of your racist words. US is not as stupid as you to start a war with Iran. But any way If such a war breaks out, You should pay too.

By Syria do you mean the Assad regime or Syrian people?

If Saudi Arabia supported Saddam, why are Syrian Sunni people getting killed by Assad regime? What did they do to Iran?

Resistance movement against Zionist? But Hamas is no longer close to Assad or Iran. Resistance against Zionists used to be a noble cause, but may be it was a camouflage for Shia-unity and drive for power and the Arab spring has exposed it for what it is.

Since the fall of Ottoman, Sykes Picot divided up the region and created instability. Many people tried to take advantage of that instability. Iran was a major beneficiary of this instability in recent years as it tried to help fellow Shia Arabs as well as Sunni Palestinians.

I see nothing wrong with Iranian shia to help their fellow Arab Shia brothers, this is a good cause, but it should not be at the expense of the greater Muslim cause.

Arab spring is the culmination of the long suffering of Arab people since the fall of Ottoman, finally after a century, Arabs are making baby steps in the right direction, to overthrow rogue regimes. This may eventually integrate this region in a greater GCC and improve stability for the region. But Iran and Iran's Shia supporters are standing in the way for this integration, as they created their own little fiefdoms in the former Ottoman provinces.

This event is also extremely important for the entire Muslim world, as chaos in the Arab world always negatively affect the rest of the Muslim world of 1.6 billion people.

So my request to Iranian regime and Iranian brothers, please reconsider what you are doing. It is clear to all what is happening. No amount of spin can hide it. Unless you change your policy, it will be tantamount to burning the bridges with 1.4 billion Sunni Muslims of the world. I do not think it will be good for Shia Muslim interest in the long term. When we Muslims fight among ourselves, we all lose, and our enemy's gain. And it takes generations to heal the wound of blood shed, sometimes it is never healed.

Enough lives have been lost. I ask you to consider the consequences of your actions. Once Persians ruled as Achemenids over 44% or world's population, and there were so many other imperial dynasties from Persia/Iran. Surely we can expect better sense from such proud and intelligent people.
 
It's very simple: Because the majority of Syrians support Assad! That is why Iran still supports Assad.

If Assad really had no legitamacy any more, then why don't the syrian oppostion want Assad to take part in free elections?

The oppostion, NATO, the Saudi and Qatar, they all want Assad to leave power before there is a free internationally-supervised election. Why? If the majority of Syrians really were against Assad, then a free internationally-supervised election would be the best way to prove it.

They all know, that even in a free election, Assad would become president, and that is the reason why they are so determined to push Assad out before there are elections.


Just wait and see: After the armed oppostion is crushed, there will be free, internationally-supervised presidential elections, Assad will take part in this internationally-supervised elections, and then we will see which country really stood at the side of the Syrian population - Iran or the West/Turkey/Saudi/Qatar.


(By the way: A article by CNN....are you serious?)
 
Every country has its own interests and acts in a way to keep these interests alive. This conflict is one of these kind of interests.
Why West and Arab countries are trying to do every thing to make Assad regime collapse?
West's goal is to provide security for Israel. You know Syria is supplying Hezbollah's needs. Due to Hezbollah is the main treat for Israel They want to weaken it by cutting its supplies.
Arab countries such as SA are not well pleased whit Shiites and Hezbollah for sure!...
And so Iran has its own interests which are against Arab nations.
Unfortunately Syrian people is the victims of these countries selfishness.

After all I ask you this question again:

Syrian people have to choose one ;Asad or Armed groups? In a situation which there are no more choices; If you where in Syrian people's shoes, Which one you'd prefer? Asad or Wahabi Terrorists??? Bad or Worse?
 
FIRST of all this is CNN crap S**t

and excuse me Iran did give money to Syria but Iran dont waste money like the other countries does

Iran need to support against western bully
 
Because mullah regime is most hypocrite regime in human history.

You know Syria is supplying Hezbollah's needs. Due to Hezbollah is the main treat for Israel
Main threat? Pfff. They never were a threat. Before 2006 they were nuisance. Since 2006 they did not fire a single bullet towards Israel.
 
Every country has its own interests and acts in a way to keep these interests alive. This conflict is one of these kind of interests.
Why West and Arab countries are trying to do every thing to make Assad regime collapse?
West's goal is to provide security for Israel. You know Syria is supplying Hezbollah's needs. Due to Hezbollah is the main treat for Israel They want to weaken it by cutting its supplies.
Arab countries such as SA are not well pleased whit Shiites and Hezbollah for sure!...
And so Iran has its own interests which are against Arab nations.
Unfortunately Syrian people is the victims of these countries selfishness.

After all I ask you this question again:

Syrian people have to choose one ;Asad or Armed groups? In a situation which there are no more choices; If you where in Syrian people's shoes, Which one you'd prefer? Asad or Wahabi Terrorists??? Bad or Worse?

Your naivety is to be envied indeed....

Assad is protecting Iranians interests by keeping the Turkish Oil market hooked on Iranian Oil and Gas at the price of Iran's choosing you see. There is a proposed pipeline from KSA running through Jordan and then through Syria and finally into Turkey which will provide cheaper and higher quality Oil and Gas to Turkey. You see better now?

Oh not to mention the proposed Railroad from KSA to Turkey and then onward into Europe, this will make KSA the petrochemicals and Plastics monopoly holder of the European market. Assad apposed this deal to hurt our economic interests.

So so naive... thinking this is Shia and they make up terms God knows how they made it up liek Wahhabi and such, I pity you lot. :no:
 
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