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If you look at the region you will find who is being sanctioned due to support of Islam and which one is in bed with westerns ...

If you look really deep into events and geopolitics, you will wakeup from your slumber. Islam has nothing to do with sanctions. Infact if west really wanted, they would have crippled and sucked the life out of so called champions of Islam.
 
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Thanks Allah millions times for Pakistan. Atleast we are fighting open and covert wars against the real enemies of Islam.
Really?,and just who would that be?,the last time I looked the only one pakistan was fighting was india and that was thru` terrorist proxies apart from that it was supporting groups like the taliban while allowing nato drones to murder pakistanis with out a single word of protest and all the while turning a blind eye to the wahabist plague the saudis have infected you with.The real problems here is two-fold,first it is the wests continued meddling in the affairs of the islamic world and secondly the utter inability of the sunni world to confront the rising tide of wahabism that poses a threat not just to the entire muslim world but the world beyond.
 
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Iran is backward. A poor country without Oil and Gas you'd all be rummaging through garbage for dinner.

Sweet heart...seems you have been sleep for the last 20 years... Now came out of your cave and shocked how google tells stuff that you could n't find in your whole life searching in libraries... if you are a person of reading nature of course...seems you're not a guy if updating your info...!!!

IRAN: MOST DEVELOPED COUNTRY IN MUSLIM WORLD THANKS TO WESTERN SANCTIONS


How does the Iranian economy feel after 40 years of the economic blockade? How can Russia and Iran develop cooperation in the future? Answers in the interview on the subject with Rosnano investment director, Vadim Veschezerov.

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“A lot has been said recently about the Russian-Iranian cooperation in the field of high technologies. Can Russia and Iran cooperate in the high-tech industry instead of oil and fruit?”

“In my view, this is exactly where we can work together most effectively. Russia and Iran are competitors when it comes to oil. Fruit is growing in many other countries of the world, not just in Iran. Iran is an interesting country, because this is the only highly developed, high-tech country of the Islamic world. In all other countries of the Islamic world, even if they have ultramodern industry, they have achieved it with someone else’s help. Iran has achieved everything alone. In some areas, Iran is a big player. Iran has a very good chemical industry and the world’s only independent pharmaceutical industry.

“I’m not talking about the nuclear program of Iran. Unlike Pakistan and other countries, Iran had no opportunity to borrow – the country was doing everything alone.”

“Has Russia lost the moment for developing cooperation with Iran? We had a unique opportunity, when Iran was living in a blockade, but now there are plenty of Americans and Europeans there.

“We have two or three years. I am personally studying the events that are now happening in the country. Unfortunately, we have very few people in Russia, who realize the peculiarities and structure of Iran, or how to build relationships with the Iranian side.

“Technically, we must explore every area where we can cooperate. In almost 40 years of blockade, the Iranians have learned to do many things and they have reached great progress, but, of course, they can not do everything. For example, their electronics is a very weak point. They are interested in chemistry, mathematics and computer science.

Not that long ago, the secretary of the Supreme Coordination Council of Free and Special Economic Zones of Iran, Akbar Torkan, named five main branches of classical economics that in his view are interesting for foreigners. They are petrochemical, automotive, power generation, steel and cement industries.

“Any industry needs high technologies. In Iran, there is a very strong group of companies working in the field of nanotechnology – this is a priority direction for them. This area is entrusted to the Iranian Council for the development of nanotechnologies.

“We must not forget that the country has been living under the conditions of economic blockade for 40 years. They have learned not only to survive, but to develop independently. As they say: “Thank you, America. You’ve turned us from consumers to entrepreneurs.”

“In what areas does Rosnano intend to cooperate with Iran?”

“We are most attracted to pharmaceuticals. We have something that interests the Iranian side – drugs and medical devices. In Iran, there are very interesting medical devices and medications that can be potential on the international market. In India, the pharmaceutical industry is completely built on copying others, and the Iranians have their own their developments.

“They have a very unique system to encourage scientists and engineers to go into business. For example, if you offer a startup in the high-tech industry, the state can pay a share in the company for you. In three or four years, if you fulfill the agreement with the state, if you create a product, a medication or something else, the state will sell you this share for one real.

“Now that the sanctions are being removed, Russian energy companies have many opportunities in Iran. The USSR had built most of the Iranian energy industry – and they remember that.”

Just as an idea: the term fight and peace are complete opposites.
It is not opposite in a world where Saudi as the main Takfiri and Al qaeda supporter become volunteer to join anti-takfiri alliance and then joins and then cheered up by other takfiri supporters... Everything is possible in a jungle.. :disagree:
 
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Really?,and just who would that be?,the last time I looked the only one pakistan was fighting was india and that was thru` terrorist proxies apart from that it was supporting groups like the taliban while allowing nato drones to murder pakistanis with out a single word of protest and all the while turning a blind eye to the wahabist plague the saudis have infected you with.The real problems here is two-fold,first it is the wests continued meddling in the affairs of the islamic world and secondly the utter inability of the sunni world to confront the rising tide of wahabism that poses a threat not just to the entire muslim world but the world beyond.

India is a kafir state. we have fought proper wars with them. We fought with godless Soviets for decade. and if American congressmen are to believed with their daily rants against Pakistan, perhaps we are doing these mordern day crusaders same to what we did to the Soviets. Now you tell me, when was the last time the "champions of Islam", Iran and Saudi fought against the kafir world?
 
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India is a kafir state. we have fought proper wars with them. We fought with godless Soviets for decade. and if American congressmen are to believed with their daily rants against Pakistan, perhaps we are doing these mordern day crusaders same to what we did to the Soviets. Now you tell me, when was the last time the "champions of Islam", Iran and Saudi fought against the kafir world?

Saddam Hussein...
 
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As if Iran and Saudi are already not fighting

The war is Iraq and Syria is actually war between Saudi and Iran
it's like comparing child's fight and adult's fight, and that's if I consider Saudis as adult! they can't even handle the Ansarullah in Yemen.
 
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Saddam Hussein...

HA HA HA.

Remind me what Sadam Hussain Iraq was? A Kafir state? Infact go back into your history as far as you can and remind me when was time you Persians were NOT pain in the back side for fellow Muslims? From early days of Islam, to Ottomans, to present day.
 
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India is a kafir state. we have fought proper wars with them. We fought with godless Soviets for decade. and if American congressmen are to believed with their daily rants against Pakistan, perhaps we are doing these mordern day crusaders same to what we did to the Soviets. Now you tell me, when was the last time the "champions of Islam", Iran and Saudi fought against the kafir world?

I can't understand the concept of the "kafir state" and "modern day crusaders" .... you mean we should fight all states around the globe that ain't Muslim?
 
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I can't understand the concept of the "kafir state" and "modern day crusaders" .... you mean we should fight all states around the globe that ain't Muslim?

I am not speaking rocket science here. My country conflicts are, have always been with kafir states. I am just asking simple thing in plain words, when was the last time, the so called champions of Islam, rather screwing up Muslim world and be pain in the back side, from early days of Islam, to Ottoman to modern day, have actually fought a conflict which doesnt involve another fellow Muslim country as adversary?
 
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I am not speaking rocket science here. My country conflicts are, have always been with kafir states. I am just asking simple thing in plain words, when was the last time, the so called champions of Islam, rather screwing up Muslim world and be pain in the back side, from early days of Islam, to Ottoman to modern day, have actually fought a conflict which doesnt involve another fellow Muslim country as adversary?

And I said I can not fathom the concept of your wording ,,, you need to elaborate on your point to make it clear ... these definitions are strange and new to me I mean why you call India a "Kafir state" .. 'cause they ain't Muslim? or the Soviet Union ....And why should we fight them? and what you mean by "modern day crusaders" ....
Could you please list Kafir states for me?

Actually in living memory of human being and at least for the last 3 centuries we've not waged, attacked or invade any country or started any war against anyone either Muslim or none-Muslim states and entities and we're gonna to keep this policy for the rest of time .... but were attacked by Iraq and its supporters ...
And when did you exactly fight the USSR? if you mean in Afghanistan then it involved another fellow Muslim country .
 
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And I said I can not fathom the concept of your wording ,,, you need to elaborate on your point to make it clear ... these definitions are strange and new to me I mean why you call India a "Kafir state" .. 'cause they ain't Muslim? or the Soviet Union ....And why should we fight them? and what you mean by "modern day crusaders" ....
Could you please list Kafir states for me?

Actually in living memory of human being and at least for the last 3 centuries we've not waged, attacked or invade any country or started any war against anyone either Muslim or none-Muslim states and entities and we're gonna to keep this policy for the rest of time .... but were attacked by Iraq and its supporters ...
And when did you exactly fight the USSR? if you mean in Afghanistan then it involved another fellow Muslim country .

Let me ask you again in simple English.

All your conflicts/wars that you are involved in, name me one when the adversary is/was NOT a fellow Muslim entitiry? Is that clear or you are still struggling?

We dislodged the Soviets, the super power of that time from Afghanistan and free its people from the forigen occupation. What do you mean by "it involved another fellow muslim country"? We were not fighting the Afghans, we were aiding them, fighting along side them to free their lands.
 
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Let me ask you again in simple English.

All your conflicts/wars that you are involved in, name me one when the adversary is/was NOT a fellow Muslim entitiry? Is that clear or you are still struggling?

We dislodged the Soviets, the super power of that time from Afghanistan and free its people from the forigen occupation. What do you mean by "it involved another fellow muslim country"? We were not fighting the Afghans, we were aiding them, fighting along side them to free their lands.

Still you don't wanna shed light on aforementioned terms ..
By the way .... on the USSR , actually you fought alongside with the Americans .. mostly it was the USA interest and policy to not let the Soviet union occupy Afghanistan and push Russian back and done through Mujahedin .... Mojahedden were output of your ISI through Saudi Maddares and money and American were behind all of it ... these the so-called Mojahedin and it's ideology turned to a deadly cancer later on that is now eating the entire region alive ... now we see it in Afghanistan, Yemen, Iraq, Syria you name a few ...
The wars we've been involved are Iran-Iraq war and we were attacked .... The another conflict is israel , the only Islamic group that ever succeeded to defeat this regime is an Iranian backed Lebanese group by the name of Hezboallh ...
The other war is Iraq war against isis, we've been helping them to fight terrorism and push it back.the same goes in Syria,
 
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Still you don't wanna shed light on aforementioned terms ..
By the way .... on the USSR , actually you fought alongside with the Americans .. mostly it was the USA interest and policy to not let the Soviet union occupy Afghanistan and push Russian back and done through Mujahedin .... Mojahedden were output of your ISI through Saudi Maddares and money and American were behind all of it ... these the so-called Mojahedin and it's ideology turned to a deadly cancer later on that is now eating the entire region alive ... now we see it in Afghanistan, Yemen, Iraq, Syria you name a few ...
The wars we've been involved are Iran-Iraq war and we were attacked .... The another conflict is israel , the only Islamic group that ever succeeded to defeat this regime is an Iranian backed Lebanese group by the name of Hezboallh ...
The other war is Iraq war against isis, we've been helping them to fight terrorism and push it back.the same goes in Syria,


Again, I am not speaking rocket science here.

Again, let me rephrase in a hope that you will understand. When you, Iranains/Persians, as a country/state went into a war/conflict with another entity which was NOT fellow Muslims? Lets try to go into a open war with Israel like we have with India on many occasions then perhaps we can talk. Hizobullah is just mere a proxy.

There is a strange pattern which goes deep into Islamic history right from the beginning of Islam, from the days of Calip Umer (RA) to Ottomons to present inciting of sectrainan conflich in ME, you lot seems to find yourself in conflict with Muslims.

Your understanding of Afghan war against soviet is flawed. Pakistan as a state started that war on its own, without any help for a whole year, its only after seeing the success of it, the others joined in but even their participation was only restricted to money and equipment, NO ONE actually fought on the ground, except of course Afghans themselves and along side them, the Pakistanis.

To link the Afghan war with current mess in ME which is nothing but sectarian non sense, fanned by Iran and Saudi, is simply scandalous.
 
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