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Pakistan’s Prime Minister Shahid Khaqan Abbasi begins a rare two-day visit to Nepal today
Last Published: Mon, Mar 05 2018. 05 22 PM IST
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Pakistan PM Shahid Khaqan Abbasi’s Nepal visit is the first incoming visit since Nepal’s new Prime Minister Khadga Prasad Sharma Oli took office in the middle of last month. Photo: Reuters
New Delhi: Pakistan’s Prime Minister Shahid Khaqan Abbasi begins a rare two-day visit to Nepal on Monday—one that India, Nepal’s giant southern neighbour—is keeping a close eye on. According to a statement from Pakistan’s foreign office on Sunday, the visit is part of Pakistan’s “pro-active and outreach efforts” to engage regional countries. What is significant is that it is the first incoming visit since Nepal’s new Prime Minister Khadga Prasad Sharma Oli took office in the middle of last month.

The Pakistan foreign office statement described Nepal as an “important, regional country” and “a close friend”. “Our ties with Nepal are characterized by cordiality, mutual respect and commonality of interests. Our support to each other at bilateral and multilateral fora has remained indispensible for both the sides,” the statement added.

New Delhi hasn’t commented on the visit. But people familiar with the development said the Indian government is keeping a wary eye on the visit. Here are three reasons why.

Oli is seen as pro-China: For starters, Nepalese Prime Minister Oli is not known to be on the best of terms with India. And he is seen as pro-China. “There is the danger of Nepal joining the Pakistan-China effort against India,” said former foreign secretary Kanwal Sibal. Pakistan is seen as supporting anti-India activities through its support for terrorist groups like the Jaish-e-Mohammed (JeM) and the Lashkar-e-Toiba. And China is seen as backing and protecting Pakistan, ensuring that the JeM chief is not put on a UN list of international terrorists—for one. Having Nepal joining hands with Pakistan and China and seen as not sensitive to Indian interests will only add to India’s woes. Nepal has already signed up for China’s Belt and Road Initiative. In January, China ended India’s internet services monopoly in Nepal. And there is increasing talk of China constructing railway lines all the way to the Nepal border which could end landlocked Nepal’s dependence on India for land routes for trade.

Abbasi visit helps Oli show he has friends in the region: In recent weeks and months, India has made many overtures to Oli since it became clear that he would become the prime minister after Nepal’s Leftist combine won last year’s elections in Nepal. Indian foreign minister Sushma Swaraj visited Nepal last month and Prime Minister Narendra Modi has spoken to Oli several times on the phone. But in a recent interview to the South China Morning Post, Oli was clear that he would broaden his options by deepening ties with China to get more leverage in his dealings with Delhi. “We have great connectivity with India and an open border. All that’s fine and we’ll increase connectivity even further, but we can’t forget that we have two neighbours,” Oli was quoted as saying in the interview. “We don’t want to depend on one country or have one option,” he said. Sibal noted that the Abbasi visit would help strengthen Oli’s position and aid the Nepali prime minister to show that he has friends in the region to push back against any pressure that India may bear on him. “Strengthening other ties in the region is one way to discourage India against any intervention,” Sibal said.



In the past, Oli has viewed India as playing a role in his government’s fall in August 2016. This came after major differences between New Delhi and Kathmandu over Nepal’s new constitution that was notified in September 2015. New Delhi resisted the new constitution as it was seen to discriminate politically against almost 51% of the Nepalese people—the Madhesis, Tharus and the Janjatis. New Delhi’s argument was that it has unstable borders with Pakistan and China and it did not want protests over lack of political rights spilling into India. More so, since India and Nepal share open borders. New Delhi was seen to impose an economic blockade—had stopped supplies of fuel, medicines and other essential supplies to Nepal. In response, Oli reached out to China and signed several key agreements including one for fuel supplies to Nepal. Oli also cancelled a visit by Nepal’s president to India and recalled the Nepalese ambassador to the country. India later reportedly backed Nepal’s former Maoist leader Pushp Kamal Dahal for the post of prime minister after he first pulled out of the coalition government headed by Oli and then struck a deal with the Nepali Congress headed by Sher Bahadur Deuba. Reports say that in last year’s elections, Oli successfully tapped a groundswell of anti-India sentiment in Nepal as a result of the blockade.

Pakistan may push for Saarc summit: On its part, Pakistan could be looking for a bit of support for itself from Nepal—to host the stalled Saarc (South Asian Association for Regional Cooperation) summit. Ties between India and Pakistan are not at their best. Official level talks between the two countries have been frosty since 2013. This is despite Modi having visited Pakistan in December 2015, becoming the first Indian prime minister in more than a decade to do so. “There is nothing really in the bilateral relationship,” said Sibal, referring to ties between Nepal and Pakistan.

One thing that Pakistan’s prime minister could do during his current Nepal visit is to seek Oli’s backing for hosting the Saarc summit in Islamabad. The summit was to be held in 2016 but India refused to attend and countries like Bangladesh and Afghanistan too expressed their inability pointedly referring to Pakistan’s role in fomenting terrorism in the region. With many of the countries in the eight-nation grouping joining the India-led initiative, Pakistan was forced to postpone the summit. “Pakistan still has to host Saarc and Nepal if it voices support for it, would be a plus for Pakistan,” Sibal said. Incidentally, many South Asian countries in the past have backed bringing China into Saarc—Nepal and Pakistan included. Ahead of the 2014 Saarc summit, India had successfully pushed back against this move. If Pakistan and Nepal agree to bring China into Saarc, and other countries like the Maldives (with which India doesn’t have comfortable relations with at the moment) back the move, the question is whether India can yet again stall the move as successfully as it did last time.

http://www.livemint.com/Politics/d3...g-a-close-eye-on-Pakistan-PMs-visit-to-N.html
 
Nepal can use Pakistani ports bypassing India altogether, if Chinese allow them access into their territory on their way to Pakistan.
No, it's not economical. But you can export to Nepal and vise verse.
 
No, it's not economical. But you can export to Nepal and vise verse.


If its deem feasible for India to load its goods on ships, then transport to Chabahar across Arabian Sea, then unload to trucks , on their way to Afghansitan, its much more feasible for Nepal to use Pakistani ports, specially after the blockade it experienced from India in recent past.
 
If its deem feasible for India to load its goods on ships, then transport to Chabahar across Arabian Sea, then unload to trucks , on their way to Afghansitan,
Yeah, we are providing aid to Afghanistan.
its much more feasible for Nepal to use Pakistani ports, specially after the blockade it experienced from India in recent past.
Blockades for political reasons is not only India's tactics. China has done that to Mongolia, Pakistan has done that to Afghanistan.

Only that, access to an ocean will be through the Bay of Bengal and Not any Pakistani port. Simple economics.
 
What a Joke,Do Indians really think,they would do anything against India?
Past 18 years are Golden Time for India,when it comes to Pakistan.Pakistan has done nothing against India,actually Mushi and successors granted India free hand.
 
Yeah, we are providing aid to Afghanistan.

Thats not AID but trade. Chabahar is not touted as AID route.

Blockades for political reasons is not only India's tactics. China has done that to Mongolia, Pakistan has done that to Afghanistan.

Only that, access to an ocean will be through the Bay of Bengal and Not any Pakistani port. Simple economics.

We have never blocked Afghan trade, only NATO supplies. According to international laws, you cant block trade access to land locked nations.

If you know your geography, Nepal is not directly connected to Bangladesh for its access to bay of Bengal, with India in between, which defeats the whole idea of Nepal having other routes independent of Indian interference. And what they are doing to trade via that route anyway? When all major trade and energy routes are going west wards? Middle east energy brought to Gawadar and from there onwards to Nepal via China. Pakistan and China are already connected, just need to link up Nepal. It will be foolish of Nepal to leave all its eggs in Indian basket after its bitter experience.
 
Pakistan may push for Saarc summit: On its part, Pakistan could be looking for a bit of support for itself from Nepal—to host the stalled Saarc
:rofl:
 
Thats not AID but trade. Chabahar is not touted as AID route.
Yes and no, We provide food aid to Afghanistan. Chabahar port is for trade with Afghanistan bypassing Pakistan.
We have never blocked Afghan trade, only NATO supplies. According to international laws, you cant block trade access to land locked nations.
Yeah right. :lol:
https://www.pajhwok.com/en/2017/02/27/afghanistan-move-wto-against-pakistan
If you know your geography, Nepal is not directly connected to Bangladesh for its access to bay of Bengal, with India in between, which defeats the whole idea of Nepal having other routes independent of Indian interference. And what they are doing to trade via that route anyway? When all major trade and energy routes are going west wards? Middle east energy brought to Gawadar and from there onwards to Nepal via China. Pakistan and China are already connected, just need to link up Nepal. It will be foolish of Nepal to leave all its eggs in Indian basket after its bitter experience.
Guess who all are their largest trade partners?
It has nothing to do with placing all eggs in one Basket like Pakistan does. Nepal has no economically feasible way to access sea route. Saying Pakistan can provide it is plain stupidity, Myanmar can provide that even more easily if they really want to bypass India (Take a look at map, that may help).

After the dust of Madhesi struggle settled trade swing back to normal. All your comments are just superficial when comparing India - Nepal relation. And Speaking of Pakistan Nepal relation, I hope you still remember when Nepal police humiliated your Diplomats twice in a year for keeping weapons and for stashing fake INR also the ex- ISI guy who went missing mysteriously. :rolleyes:
 
Yes and no, We provide food aid to Afghanistan. Chabahar port is for trade with Afghanistan bypassing Pakistan.

And its expensive as compared to direct access to Pakistan. Same way Nepal can bypass India. Its more of strategic choice then economical.



Only temporary measure for security and terrorism related issues, read the whole news item. Its only when Afghan terrorists send by RAW conduct terrorist activites on Pakistani citizens. We have never blocked to arm twist Afghanistan for political reasons like India do with Nepal.


Guess who all are their largest trade partners?
It has nothing to do with placing all eggs in one Basket like Pakistan does. Nepal has no economically feasible way to access sea route. Saying Pakistan can provide it is plain stupidity, Myanmar can provide that even more easily if they really want to bypass India (Take a look at map, that may help).

After the dust of Madhesi struggle settled trade swing back to normal. All your comments are just superficial when comparing India - Nepal relation. And Speaking of Pakistan Nepal relation, I hope you still remember when Nepal police humiliated your Diplomats twice in a year for keeping weapons and for stashing fake INR also the ex- ISI guy who went missing mysteriously. :rolleyes:


Nepal is atleast a functioning country which is not under the direct foreign occupation like Afghansitan. If you can try to create your lousy so called trade route with that dysfunctional country , I am sure we can get better dividends with Nepal.

Yes indeed, do take a look on map, as to how far bay of Bengal and Myanmar is from the ME energy market. Gawadar literally sits on the mouth of Persian gulf and from there its either direct pipelines or trucks. Where were you in Afghansitan before yanks? You came into Afghansitan riding on uncle sam shoulders. I am sure we can work something out along with China to help Nepal maintain its sovereignty, infact, Nepal PM is also saying along the same lines. It all about making ingress, whatever influence India historically had, doesn't matter a bit.
 
And its expensive as compared to direct access to Pakistan. Same way Nepal can bypass India. Its more of strategic choice then economical.
They can if they want to. And for what, to ship to India?

Only temporary measure for security and terrorism related issues, read the whole news item. Its only when Afghan terrorists send by RAW conduct terrorist activites on Pakistani citizens. We have never blocked to arm twist Afghanistan for political reasons like India do with Nepal.
We did that temporarily too. Because of the riots close to the border. If you can block for a political reason, we can do the same.
Nepal is atleast a functioning country which is not under the direct foreign occupation like Afghansitan. If you can try to create your lousy so called trade route with that dysfunctional country , I am sure we can get better dividends with Nepal.

Yes indeed, do take a look on map, as to how far bay of Bengal and Myanmar is from the ME energy market. Gawadar literally sits on the mouth of Persian gulf and from there its either direct pipelines or trucks. Where were you in Afghansitan before yanks? You came into Afghansitan riding on uncle sam shoulders. I am sure we can work something out along with China to help Nepal maintain its sovereignty, infact, Nepal PM is also saying along the same lines. It all about making ingress, whatever influence India historically had, doesn't matter a bit.

You are typing nonsense. There is no refinery in Nepal. (Maybe your next argument will be Pakistan will create a refinery) They import refined petrol and diesel. You can create all the trade routes around the world originating in Pakistan. Then you can dream of beating India in the trade with every other country. Nobody gives a damn.

It doesn't matter how we reach or what we do, the result is shown as your trade with Afghanistan going down and our trade with Afghanistan going up. It's good for us.
 
No, it's not economical. But you can export to Nepal and vise verse.

Hmm an Indian telling this is laugh able. With completion of CPEC and one road one belt it will be economical for Nepal to use that route if they wanted.
 
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