Why India can’t defeat Pakistan or China in a war

[Qutb-ud-din Aybak]

NIL is not paramilitry , its full army unit. 1:30 is your imagination, Only Few military personal taken over Tiger Peak. Moreover you Army also Supporting them from behind with their guns / bullets.

50-60+ SSG ( PAK Best of the best) vs few (4-5) Indian Regular soldiers in Siachin

Pramilitary i not paramilitary but it was a paramilitary.
About strength, the maximum figure given by indian army during whole war shows that the NLI strength was 1500 maximum(refer to your army press conferences) during the war. Indian army mountain core was fighting against them. strength was 30,000.
about siachin.
Many indians were also killed. the figure 40 SSG is not from one fight against 4-5 indian soldiers but against in a major operation at multiple locations. Many indians died too.

 

[faithfulguy]

Indian taken revenge of 62 in 1967 when they spanked Chinese so hard , they ashamed to tell their own people.
They also ashamed to tell their own people why they left Tawang when they saw Indian main troops arrived in 62

and now begging India to give china Tawang as face saver.
http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1038677.shtml
https://www.telegraphindia.com/1140715/jsp/opinion/story_18608306.jsp#.WNVSm4VOKHs
http://www.businessmirror.com.ph/india-plans-drilling-in-disputed-sea-in-challenge-to-china/
Again humiliation, every other country know about how india humiliated China in SCS over the Oil drill issue , Chinese are so ashamed that they told its people, all this is a lie.

Attacking a small number of border guard by full fledge army is great victory and running away when they saw real army arriving in large numbers..... is forwardness


Not thousand , few hundred year and not also full India....in between those Muslims also get defeated. Muslims never ruled all over India for long.

But Chinese rules by many countries...its hurts what Japanese did to you, British, Russian US, French etc,



lol ..... which language you are debating in ?



NIL is not paramilitry , its full army unit. 1:30 is your imagination, Only Few military personal taken over Tiger Peak. Moreover you main Army full force also Supporting them from behind with their guns / bullets/ rockets.

50-60+ SSG ( PAK Best of the best) vs few (4-5) Indian Regular soldiers in Siachin

First of all, India was never ruled by the British. India never existed prior to 1947. Indian subcontinent was ruled by the British.

But Indians like to make up stuff like how China was colonized by Japan. If that happened, than Hitler colonized USSR..LOL Stop making up things.

The worst lie is the 1967 "war" between China and India. This event was smaller than even the Indian surgical strike recently but Indians modified to make the article like its a real war. Do not trusted Wikipedia. Especially after when Indian radicals logged into a page. LOL.

And Indian subcontinent was looted and ruled by Muslims for a thousand years. And since India was created in 1947, the present day TN was never ruled by a Muslim, so I guess you can say that state was historically never ruled by a Muslim.

Just wondering were your ancestor part of the Aryan invaders that brought caste system into India?

 

[Arsalan mehmud]

Kyonki India darpok hai...

 

[SDS1]

First of all, India was never ruled by the British. India never existed prior to 1947. Indian subcontinent was ruled by the British.

But Indians like to make up stuff like how China was colonized by Japan. If that happened, than Hitler colonized USSR..LOL Stop making up things.

The worst lie is the 1967 "war" between China and India. This event was smaller than even the Indian surgical strike recently but Indians modified to make the article like its a real war. Do not trusted Wikipedia. Especially after when Indian radicals logged into a page. LOL.

lol , just speaking like a defeated person ...

We don't trust Wikipedia , it take some knowledgeable person to understand how wiki works, everything written over wiki given / back up by reference (news/ books etc)

I have given you prove which your govt hide from 67 , SCS , to dalai lama....lol all non -existence.

 

[MultaniGuy]

Brother.... Are you serious?

Absolutely I am serious.

Bangladesh is a liability. two rivers being controlled by India and China. LOL

 

[Mugwop]

everyone else knows other you.....lol


India taken all the peaks which it was occupying previously ,

A) Peaks in kargil taken back by India, should I list few peak name/ number
Point 5140 ,5060 , 5100 .... etc list will go on.

B) The 1995 attack by Pakistan SSG was significant as it resulted in 40 casualties for Pakistan troops without any changes in the positions, Thus its safely assumed that more then 50-60 SSG taken part in the attack.

C) kargil Objective was to take control of the heights, choke Siachin Road supply and take Siachin. and what happened the end... PAK was dislodged from the peak one by one.

Take Siachin? That wasn't the plan.Check out the weather there.
My argument was about why it took them 2 months despite having advantage.
Chola incident was a stand off not a war.

 

[Post Colonnial]

there is nothing to be gained by beating Pakistan again. China and India are not interested in going to war as both have much bigger economic problems to solve.

 

[LeGenD]

India can defeat Pakistan in a strictly conventional conflict. China is a different story however.

 

[layci]

中国不找事，也不怕事。只要别欺负我们，和我们的朋友。

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

India can defeat Pakistan in a strictly conventional conflict. China is a different story however.

So what happened after mumbai 2008 and Uri 2016? That too when india is at least 7x bigger than Pakistan and has abundant access to the world's most advanced weapons systems whilst we are denied this privilege?........

 

[Chhatrapati]

So what happened after mumbai 2008 and Uri 2016? That too when india is at least 7x bigger than Pakistan and has abundant access to the world's most advanced weapons systems whilst we are denied this privilege?........

Because we don't wanna spoil our growing economy to a country that has nothing to loss.
Everyone knows the outcome. No matter how you guys deny it.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Because we don't wanna spoil our growing economy to a country that has nothing to loss.
Everyone knows the outcome. No matter how you guys deny it.

More excuses from those that are powerless to do anything to a nation that is more than 7x more smaller than it and doesn't have abundant access to the world's most advanced weapons systems like india does...........lol.....

The india military high command knows what the REAL outcome would be which is why india was powerless to launch an all out military assault against Pakistan after mumbai 2008 and Uri 2016.. lol.....

Nothing to loose???????..........lol.......more india delusions. The same confident indian delusionals that proclaimed Pakistan WOULD NEVER EVER become a nuclear weapons state with or without Chinese asssistance.......lol...........CPEC and other less talked about programs have already ended this other retarded delusional indian bollywood fantasy just like we did in May 1998......lol.......

 

[SDS1]

Pramilitary i not paramilitary but it was a paramilitary.
About strength, the maximum figure given by indian army during whole war shows that the NLI strength was 1500 maximum(refer to your army press conferences) during the war. Indian army mountain core was fighting against them. strength was 30,000.
about siachin.
Many indians were also killed. the figure 40 SSG is not from one fight against 4-5 indian soldiers but against in a major operation at multiple locations. Many indians died too.

lol
Well 1500 are only which occupied Indian Heights , while many more behind the LOC supporting them, Those PA artillery guns are guided by the eyes of NLI bombing the position of Indians side easily.

In Siachin , PAK has 200 Casualty of SSG /NIL in combat while India has 36 out of 300 members when PAk tried to take back Siachin in 84

More excuses from those that are powerless to do anything to a nation that is more than 7x more smaller than it and doesn't have abundant access to the world's most advanced weapons systems like india does...........lol.....

The india military high command knows what the REAL outcome would be which is why india was powerless to launch an all out military assault against Pakistan after mumbai 2008 and Uri 2016.. lol.....

Nothing to loose???????..........lol.......more india delusions. The same confident indian delusionals that proclaimed Pakistan WOULD NEVER EVER become a nuclear weapons state with or without Chinese asssistance.......lol...........CPEC and other less talked about programs have already ended this other retarded delusional indian bollywood fantasy just like we did in May 1998......lol.......

Yes India do not do anything, Only Send PAK to UN/US / China and begging them to stop Indian Firing from LOC , only to raise white Flag to recover bodies after that.

lol no onw said that India has even access to PAK nuclear facility back then.

but wonder , why not PAK able to take back Kashmir one muslims =10 hindus and moved back from Kargil also.

 

[LeGenD]

So what happened after mumbai 2008 and Uri 2016? That too when india is at least 7x bigger than Pakistan and has abundant access to the world's most advanced weapons systems whilst we are denied this privilege?........

Bro,

Our nuclear deterrence has dicouraged India so far. Not saying that Pakistan will not put up a fight (minus nuclear deterrence); we will definitely.

However, India has greater amount of resources, manpower and superior economy. If Indians are really motivated, they will 'eventually' gain the upperhand in a (prolonged) war and possibly succeed at occupying large swaths of territory across the border. Motivation and resources are the key words.

We will run out of resources and (able) manpower but Indians will have room to spare.

It is in the best interests of Pakistan to achieve 'significant' qualitative edge over India to (restore) balance. That edge comes from high-tech Western equipment. Chinese equipment ensures parity with Russian equipment at maximum. However, shortage of funds and options are collectively a major issue.

Now that CPEC is in the picture, strategic calculus is that Chinese intervention can save the day for us. This is an additional layer of deterrence.

 

[Chhatrapati]

More excuses from those that are powerless to do anything to a nation that is more than 7x more smaller than it and doesn't have abundant access to the world's most advanced weapons systems like india does...........lol.....

The india military high command knows what the REAL outcome would be which is why india was powerless to launch an all out military assault against Pakistan after mumbai 2008 and Uri 2016.. lol.....

Nothing to loose???????..........lol.......more india delusions. The same confident indian delusionals that proclaimed Pakistan WOULD NEVER EVER become a nuclear weapons state with or without Chinese asssistance.......lol...........CPEC and other less talked about programs have already ended this other retarded delusional indian bollywood fantasy just like we did in May 1998......lol.......