Why I support Hamza Ali Abbasi standing up for Pakistan’s Ahmadis

[RazorMC]

Nothing stirs up a hornet's nest here like pro- or anti- Ahmedi comments.

Followers of Muhammad bin Abdullah (PBUH) have the right not to acknowledge Ahmedis as Muslims, but Ahmedis have the right to live same as everyone else.

Times have changed and we need to realize that we can not take away someone's life for their beliefs.

 

[ArsalanKhan21]

Whether they are Muslim or not is irrelevant.

That is the crux of the problem that this messianic cult claims to be Muslims when its perverted beliefs contradict Islam.

 

[insight-out]

The people who burn places of worship, lynch people based on rumours and suspicions are the real criminal. People who incite riots and mobs to take the law in their own hands, and use their influence and speech to foment violence are the real criminals.

That is the crux of the problem that this messianic cult claims to be Muslims when its perverted beliefs contradict Islam.

As I said, it is irrelevant. If you believe that they are a messianic cult who are propagating their beliefs and recruiting members based on lies, then move the courts to take action. Your assertion may well be true, but you have no right to assume the responsibility of the state.

 

[ArsalanKhan21]

As I said, it is irrelevant.

Then cause and effect is irrelevant too.

 

[insight-out]

@ArsalanKhan21 Think about the evolution of the actions that you seem to be defending. If we were to allow people to act outside of the legal system, what is to stop anyone from declaring you a heretic, burning your house, and then killing you and your family. It will literally result in anarchy and chaos.

 

[ArsalanKhan21]

As I said, it is irrelevant. If you believe that they are a messianic cult who are propagating their beliefs and recruiting members based on lies, then move the courts to take action

Courts can only give verdicts and cannot control militant groups recruiting people for terrorism. The same is true for Qadiani issue where simple court verdicts don't solve the underlying insidious Qadiani threats.

 

[Politico]

Courts can only give verdicts and cannot control militant groups recruiting people for terrorism. The same is true for Qadiani issue where simple court verdicts don't solve the underlying insidious Qadiani threats.

how d fuk did u get 2 quote my name on statement i never make ??

 

[Umair Nawaz]

I don't know such rules, are you just making it up? :/.
And Hamza is handsome. There's a difference in handsomeness and cuteness.

so im i cute?

 

[ArsalanKhan21]

how d fuk did u get 2 quote my name on statement i never make ??

You should be happy that I atleast noticed you !

 

[Politico]

You should be happy that I atleast noticed you !

u r weird

 

[jamahir]

so im i cute?

such desperation !!

And what kind of example are you setting by acting violent and full of hatred? Please remember, unless you act differently, you are no better than the ISIS.

great words... ones that should be understood by many members of pdf.

I live in New York and being loyal to the country you live in is part of my deen.

if you were born in usa, you are correct to keep both flags of usa... but if you were born it pakistan and moved to usa, it is polite and forum rules to make your "country flag" ( flag of origin ) to pakistan and "location" to usa.

though i will say that instead of two flags, the system must be changed to having only one flag - either of the state whose ideology one supports or of the country one is loyal to or like my preference, a "flag of humanity".

 

[Umair Nawaz]

such desperation !!



great words... ones that should be understood by many members of pdf.



if you were born in usa, you are correct to keep both flags of usa... but if you were born it pakistan and moved to usa, it is polite and forum rules to make your "country flag" ( flag of origin ) to pakistan and "location" to usa.

though i will say that instead of two flag, one must show the flag of the state whose ideology one supports or the country one is loyal to or like me prefer to show a "flag of humanity".

thats not how things work here in this forum or Pakistan, the country u support has to be in yr country flag section.

We dont believe in any sort of Gandhism here.

 

[Zibago]

so im i cute?

Lagta hay ap''ki shikyat laganey paray ge

 

[abp94]

Ahmedis are non-Muslims

 

[jamahir]

thats not how things work here in this forum or Pakistan, the country u support has to be in yr country flag section.

We dont believe in any sort of Gandhism here.

i edited-in this in that post just at the time you would have replied...

though i will say that instead of two flags, the system must be changed to having only one flag - either of the state whose ideology one supports or of the country one is loyal to or like my preference, a "flag of humanity".

so, not gandhism at all ( even if i didn't understand your reasoning for calling it so ).